Which would be completely unrelated to his gaming.
So, yeah, this shows that gamers shouldn't be called athletes unless they have other, actually athletic skills.
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Kristi Leskinen " No gamer in the world deserves an X-games Gold Medal"
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Which would be completely unrelated to his gaming.
So, yeah, this shows that gamers shouldn't be called athletes unless they have other, actually athletic skills.
Zomba13
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"Professional Skier, Winner of ABC's The Superstars, and lover of all things active, especially action sports."
Like, just literally click the one link in the OP.
Oh wait, I forgot, you don't actually want to know, you just want to be dismissive because you don't know who she is so her opinion doesn't matter. Literally who and all that.
What is your opinion on rallycross being a part of the X-games?
bumpkin
Member
Same. The shit people do in the X-Games is ballsy, incredible shit I would never even dare to try. It's entirely possible to die if you fuck up some insane snowboard trick. Playing video games is in no way a comparable feat.
I would love to watch a chess match with FCG-tier commentary. It worked for Catherine!
Virtua Fighter was at EVO
Yeah though in this situation sticking Halo on a roster with snowboarding and skiing is dumb.
They absolutely belong under the banner of "sport", but yes there are definitely tiers under that banner that eSports don't reach.
Pristine_Condition
Member
Well too bad Leskinen EG deserves the hell out of those golden license plates, though I do love that Snip3down replied to her with this LOL
The look of a guy who is smug because Microsoft payed to have ESPN give him a medal?
If I were to play videogames at an extreme level I could probably die. It's pretty extreme.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
Video games aren't extreme so it's understandable. I think a women being this critical about games will amplify the backlash.
The Real Napsta
Member
I was just curious, but keep up the good fight for whatever your agenda is!
paragonpro
Banned
I agree. Theres nothing athletic or physically taxing in the sameway some of the x games sports are about gaming. People who get mad at this dont understand that maybe its just not a good idea to mix games and sports.
BronsonLee
Member
His agenda is logic
John Kowalski
Banned
Not even Dota.
Lionel Richie
Member
The only person in the world that still cares about the sanctity of the X-Games.
Shame on A publisher for pushing their game, shame on them
Listen to yourself
Shouldn't be there, imo.
I can agree in general, the problem is that 'sport' to most people (and for the longest time, to me) means one specific tier of that banner - athletic sports. Not board games, not esports, not autosports.
So I feel like if all of those things are 'sports', then we need a new term for the physical sports. And once we have that the other tiers will then want to be called that new term to attach themselves to the prestige of that kind of athletic activity and so on and so on.
Or is it?
True. The gaming community (and sports community) isn't going to be able to hide behind semantic shit-fights forever. Everyone needs to just get over themselves and accept that sport/not-sport isn't the be all and end all of credibility. I mean realistically it is right now but there's no reason it has to be that way.
entremet
Member
Unfortunately Kristi is barking up the wrong tree.
Blame the corporate sponsorships.
The X-Games is a business. They decided to have an eSports event because it was lucrative for them.
Don't blame the Halo 5 team for showing up and winning. It's kinda silly. Of course they're gonna show and compete in a big venue.
Blame the corporate sponsorships.
The X-Games is a business. They decided to have an eSports event because it was lucrative for them.
Don't blame the Halo 5 team for showing up and winning. It's kinda silly. Of course they're gonna show and compete in a big venue.
Osu 16 Bit
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yeah but the physical and athletic part is what makes a sport a sport. The mental exertion is why it's a great competition though.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
They should have eSports at the olympics.
Pristine_Condition
Member
No, shame on that guy for thinking he deserves an X-Games medal for pressing buttons with his fingers while Caleb Moore lies in a grave.
MisterR
Member
Playing video games is not a sport.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Skiers dont deserve X-games medals # snow games.
GavinUK86
Member
Who gives a shit as long as it rubs it in her face.
You sound just like the people who criticized skateboarding back at it's boom as a competitive sport
I love how people divide "real" sports with "esports" like they both aren't arbitrary forms of competition. They could get one for Chess for all I care. Competition is competition. Sure, one may be more physical or more difficult, but they are equally arbitrary, therefore, I don't care.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
So does operating a forklift or decorating a cake. Everything can be considered a sport.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
Then you don't actually understand what x games are. It's like winning a medal for a hip hop song when it's a death metal event. The event is designed for extreme sports.
The Real Napsta
Member
Is it?
Bullshit. There is no comparison between gaming and skateboarding when it comes to a physical endeavor. I'm all for eSports, no issues there -- but don't make ludicrous analogies. What's next for the X-games? Mathletes?
please tell me there are forklift olympics
i looked it up and there are competitions at least
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_qSGtx3DI4
yes
I think this is one of the reasons why some professional players and commentators reject the word e-sport and would rather it be called competitive gaming. The reason why is because e-sport sounds so desperate to be included in something, and yeah, those who use it do want that. You won't be included in everything.
Then you have the X-games and how they started because they couldn't be included with traditional sports so they started their own thing separate from traditional sports.
Then you have the X-games and how they started because they couldn't be included with traditional sports so they started their own thing separate from traditional sports.
SolidSnakex
Member
You're at the end of the day talking about probably the most dangerous types of sports. Basically every single sport in the X-Games could leave you either dead or paralyzed if you mess up even slightly. It's not particularly surprising that they aren't going to be happy about the idea of people getting the same award as they do for sitting down and moving analog sticks while pressing buttons.
Pristine_Condition
Member
First off, I was a fairly good skateboarder as a teenager, so no.
But I'm quite interested in your comparison. How are you trying to say people criticizing putting videogames in the category of competitive sports is even comparable to the situation with high-level skateboarding? Do you understand the athleticism required to skate/snowboard/surf at the pro level?
This conversation is always going to come down to nothing more than semantics. You can make the argument for literally any activity on the planet as a sport as long as someone is willing to compete at it. That doesn't change the fact that when 99% of people say sports, they're referring to a relatively small subset of activities.
funkystudent
Member
E sports is never going to be taken seriously if people keep trying to do the "WE ARE A REAL SPORT" argument. It comes across as insecure and needy.
You dont see pro poker or chess people trying to defend their competition like that.
Its its own thing. Its not a athletic completion and shouldn't be put side by side with athletic completions.
You dont see pro poker or chess people trying to defend their competition like that.
Its its own thing. Its not a athletic completion and shouldn't be put side by side with athletic completions.
I've been surfing since I was a child. I'm well aware of the athleticism involved but it didn't stop Skate/Surf/Snowboarding to be aggressively criticized in it's infancy from traditionalists for asinine reasons/people who don't understand the sport OR because it doesn't fit their usual ideas of what a 'sport' should be.