NobleGundam
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Yes but not "X" -treme enough in her opinion hahaI mean it has Games in the title.
Yes but not "X" -treme enough in her opinion hahaI mean it has Games in the title.
as if medals in xgames mean anything. haha
Yep. I mean in away I agree with her stance.video games getting X Games medals seems ridiculous to me
Because they saw a return on the investment. Just as ESPN broadcasting people playing poker.
I have no real opinion on the whole matter of who got an award or whatever, it's all completely meaningless to me. But I just want to point out how you've completely oversimplified the idea of picking up a game and playing. Me and you can, because we're used to the way they play. Take a non gamer and hand them a controller in an FPS and watch as they smash into all the walls over and over. To actually reach a point of being able to do basically anything takes a long ass time.
Practicing golf on a level where you're looking to compete will take lots of time, but so will anything where you're looking to actually compete with others. If we simplify it yes a person can pick a controller for the first time them running into a wall is taking part, as in the same sense a swing and a miss would be in golf.
I associate X-Games with extreme sports. I don't associate videogames with extreme sports.
Eh the only thing I admit I have oversimplified is the part about needing a five minute tutorial for a newbie player to pick up and start playing a game for the first time ever. Realistically, they are going to need more than that. But it's not going to take hours or " a long ass time" to "basically do anything" in the game. If I am oversimplifying, then you are exaggerating. I don't think it's unrealistic to say that a total game noob can pick up and play Halo and begin killing enemies on occasion within their first hour of playing. Compare it to golf and it's really not the same at all when it comes to rudimentary levels of success.
About being able to use controllers today because I have been playing them for a long time, I don't really agree with that either. I've always considered them to be pretty easy to pick up and play within a few minutes, whether it was using a joystick for games like Pacman or atari, twin joysticks with Robottron, or a completely new type of 3d game and controller like Mario 64. Todays controllers aren't that drastically different that suddenly it's going to take a newb a significantly longer time to get used to them compared to the time it took for me to get used to my first experiences
A lot of definitions of "sport" (which I subscribe to) make the athleticism/dexterity criteria an "or" instead of an "and". I see no reason to exclude pure dexterity competitions like golf, darts and billards.
Lmao video gamers are funny creatures. Think mashing buttons deserve to be at X Games. Let's have Chess players, Uno players, Gwent players too then. It's a different category. Stop trying to put hobby into other events that have nothing to do with them.
X Games should just make E Games. Problem solved.
Holy shit, now I get what those "exact same arguement" people are saying. Hilarious. Copy and paste arguement from the past man.Well giving a medal to people who are displaying no athleticism for something that takes athleticism just undermines what the athletes actually put themselves through to get that medal. I can definitely see why she would be upset at it.
I think that's incredibly unrealistic actually.
I've even tried that experiment. Most non-gamers have trouble even understanding the concept of dual analog controls. Let alone juggling movement and aim, while processing HUD information and remembering what functions are binded to triggers and face buttons.
I've tried this experiment with Halo:CE on MCC. My subject couldn't even follow me to captain Keyes in the opening level. The idea of her being able to kill a single AI enemy on the easiest difficulty, after an hour of practice seems far fetched. The idea of her being able to kill an online multiplayer opponent; unfathomable.
What do you consider a comparable rudimentary level of success in golf? I'm most certain she could learn to hit a golf ball off of a tee, sooner than she could learn to aim at an attacking target in Halo.
Professional athletes are big dumb grunts eh.
The fact that sitting and moving only your fingers and thumbs isn't a sport is not a generalization.Many people here are generalizing & belittling both gamers and proponents of video games being categorized as sports, so yeah, I did some generalizing myself to prove the point that it's easy to dismiss either side of the argument. Both sides of this debate can be irrationally generalized in a condescending manner.
Ok, so one "subject" in your "experiment" and now all of a sudden that shows compelling evidence that it's incredibly unrealistic to be able to occasionally kill some enemies an hour into playing Halo? . Seriously? And is there a study that shows that most non-gamers struggle with the concept of dual analog controls so much that it's highly unrealistic that they will be able to kill a few enemies within the first hours.?So little kids that play their first video game can't get the hang of dual controls within an hour of playing, and little kids haven't been able to start killing some enemies within an hour? Everybody is a non-gamer at one point. Yet newbies pick up and play video games constantly. Beginning people have been quickly picking up controls and learning the basicss of playing videogames in less than an hour for the last 30+ years, so where are you getting that my prediction is highly unrealistic? There is no heavy time investment needed to attempt to play at a basic level.
I also find your clam that your subject would have a harder time just aiming at a target to be downright bizarre. What possible reason could you have for thinking that it's harder to aim something ( which requires your hand/thumb and coordination) than it is to hit a golf ball with an unwieldy ( relative to a controller)club, which requires almost your whole body and coordination?
edit- i don't actually want to know your answer, because I know it's just going to be more nonsense like your "experiment".I can't do this topic anymore without going insane.
The fact that sitting and moving only your fingers and thumbs isn't a sport is not a generalization.
Otherwise, knitting and speed-knitting would also be sports.
Pictured: A thing that people compete in at the X-Games without hissy fits being thrown: