I don't know if current management is that excited about Marvel, at least maybe not as much as when Christian Svensson was still at Capcom. He loved the Marvel series, and from what he said, helped close that deal.
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Marvel shares new info about their console plans, Spider-Man will be ongoing series
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I don't know if current management is that excited about Marvel, at least maybe not as much as when Christian Svensson was still at Capcom. He loved the Marvel series, and from what he said, helped close that deal.
I have to pardon myself. I made a massive mess of my post. The quote I made included my comment to the first quote, as I'd unknowingly removed Nirolak's quote. The quote I meant to do talked about how they want to work with developers with a passion for the IP from a creative standpoint and not a financial one.
Wasn't Yusuke Hashimoto the one that wanted to work on a Spider-Gwen game?
Ghost Slayer
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It's the only reason they do that silly ban
More-or-less, yeah. I pulled a post from the Spider-Man thread detailing everything that I was able to uncover concerning the ban that's in the previous page. The short of it, Marvel doesn't want to promote Fox material.
demosthenes
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If Marvel wants them to.
For Spider-Man specific console games, they will be made by Insomniac/Sony.
If you're asking if Spider-Man can appear in a fighting game or a MOBA or a mobile game or probably even a LEGO family oriented game, those are still open.
However, you won't see another developer making a core oriented action/adventure Spider-Man title for consoles.
wapplew
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They are bigger than one project studio.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Won't mean a thing you would've thought they were focused on all tge other games they got going on. The team is very efficient I wouldn't worry
A potential goldmine of an exclusive if Insomniac delivers.
I wonder if we'll get more franchises being exclusive to other platforms. It sounds like Insomniac/Sony will be the only ones who will have Spider-Man for the long haul. It wouldn't be too shocking if Microsoft ended up with a hero all on their own.
The notes sound great, especially them wanting to take their time and not rush development so they can make top tier games without doing move tie-ins.
The notes sound great, especially them wanting to take their time and not rush development so they can make top tier games without doing move tie-ins.
demosthenes
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I think Ted Price (CEO name right?) would be very happy at having a franchise tied to the studio for a while if it would let the studio grow and guarantee work for employees.
Discotheque
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i'd like deadpool by capcom or platinum games but written by tim schafer.
marvel slimes need to use the xmen ip too, it's all money going in their pockets at the end of the day merch wise anyways. i have a feeling this is perlmutter's doing.
i like that they're taking an arkham-series approach to their IPs going forward hopefully. now I think WB should look at opening up to a Birds of Prey, or Superman game. Flash could be done really well too in the vein of Infamous First Light. We'll see what marvel puts out next after Spiderman.
marvel slimes need to use the xmen ip too, it's all money going in their pockets at the end of the day merch wise anyways. i have a feeling this is perlmutter's doing.
i like that they're taking an arkham-series approach to their IPs going forward hopefully. now I think WB should look at opening up to a Birds of Prey, or Superman game. Flash could be done really well too in the vein of Infamous First Light. We'll see what marvel puts out next after Spiderman.
Spider-Man has no ban holding him back. While I don't expect anyone else to make Spider-Man specific games, I doubt that Marvel would want to hold him back from appearing in other Marvel-wide games. So if Capcom wanted Spider-Man & Green Goblin in MvC4, there's no stopping them.
I'm sure Capcom US would love it. It's Capcom Japan that I doubt would be receptive to the idea.
I wonder if that includes parts of Spidey's supporting case and microverse, such as Gwen Stacy, Miles Morales or Venom.
Shadow Ranger
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Never liked movie tie ins so I'm glad!
i am sure they can work on more than one game as they have multiple teams. one was doing sunset, another was working on ratchet for ps4, and some other were doing vr games
Exactly.
Yeap. It's one thing if these properties are floundering under Fox but aside from F4, they're doing fine. Fox has done a great job with Deadpool and X-Men too honestly.
Ghost Slayer
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I read that next Spider-man game creative director want to work on Spider-man game when he heard his studio was chosen and Nirolak post stated that Marvel only works with studios really want to work on Marvel IP so I think Insomniac don't mind with it
I still want to know the specifics of how the publishing deal for Spider-Man happened. I thought Sony's relationship with Insomniac wasn't that great. I know they just released Ratchet & Clank, but Insomniac's big thing is that they want to own their IP's now & that was supposedly a big reason for them going with Microsoft for Sunset Overdrive. But then this is Spider-Man, which is Marvel/Disney's IP, so... it's just confusing. I wish I could be the fly on the wall in these meetings.
Maybe... but since Sony are publishing this Spider-Man game, like I said in another thread, don't expect the games made by Sony+Insomniac to ever appear on other systems (as Sony seem to have exclusive rights to the potential series/franchise).
Host Samurai
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Does Disney/Marvel own Power Rangers? We need a new epic PR game.
Punisher by R* would be hot too
Punisher by R* would be hot too
Based on what we know, the X-Men/F4 ban is most likely Ike Perlmutter's doing.
Yeah, I believe that. I don't know who would be trying to close a deal with Marvel on that front though. (i.e. who would show the most enthusiasm right off the bat).
Baron von Loathsome
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Nope, Nickelodeon. Disney used to air the show on Toon Disney/Jetix, but it's never been associated with Marvel.
PeskyToaster
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Jay Ong seems to have a good head on his shoulders. I liked his answers. I hope Disney/Star Wars starts to get handled the same way though. I heard they rushed Battlefront for the movies but they really don't need to do that lol. I guess December was a special time but now that everything is booted up, Star Wars a guaranteed money maker (not that it ever wasn't), like Marvel.
Spider-man on his worst day is a 700 million dollar box office. They're not giving that up.
Triggerhappytel
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Pretty much. I think it's down to Fox refusing to share/give merchandising rights, so as a result Marvel has basically banned any content which could benefit Fox's Marvel movies.
legit amazed they care at this point. they could easy just cash in on the MCU by releasing a shitty, rushed tie in game every time a new movie drops. good on em.
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Do they? Sunset Overdrive failed to light the world on fire so it probably won't be getting a sequel, and Resistance is dead. Ratchet remake did well and will likely be getting a sequel, but Insomniac is a big enough studio to work on two franchises at once, like how they worked on both Ratchet and Resistance during the PS3 years.
I'd be fine if Insomniac spent the next 5 years or so as a Ratchet and Spider-Man studio.
...Scatter...
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Thanks you both. Well I guess it's looking good so far and I'm excited to see what they can deliver. Hopefully adding some strong story elements.
Thewonandonly
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This is great to hear.
Gets me ever closer to the punisher game, made by either rockstar or remedy. Both can do a create story based on max Payne, and both can do great gameplay based on well max Payne. Honesly I just want max Payne reskined as punisher with bullet time and everything.
Now that that would be fucking incredible
P.S. If someone can makes threads which I can't anymore :'( someone should make dream teams for marvel games
Gets me ever closer to the punisher game, made by either rockstar or remedy. Both can do a create story based on max Payne, and both can do great gameplay based on well max Payne. Honesly I just want max Payne reskined as punisher with bullet time and everything.
Now that that would be fucking incredible
P.S. If someone can makes threads which I can't anymore :'( someone should make dream teams for marvel games
You're not wrong, but it's a bit more complicated than that.
Marvel signed those deals before they were acquired by Disney and when they were in a much weaker position. They were effectively signing these lopsided deals in order to get themselves out of bankruptcy. Now that they are owned by Disney and are in a much stronger position, they're effectively using their influence to try and get their own IP back.
To be clear, Marvel is not doing anything that doesn't honour the movie deals they signed with Fox, but they are playing politics in order to strong arm Fox into caving.
That much is unclear. They were clear that this is Peter Parker and referred to him as such a few times.
BodiesWithoutOrgans
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Lovely stuff can't wait for finally good superhero games
See, someone who gets it.
And while petitions don't really mean much these days, the MvC community was able to get over 10k signatures for an MvC4 petition. That has to count for something.
Ghost Slayer
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wut? Just because Sony turned down Sunset Override doesn't mean their relationship is over. You have to remember that they have worked with Sony since PS2
Pai Pai Master
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No they just don't WANT to put them in games because they don't have movie rights. They see it as free advertising for a competitor.
Baron von Loathsome
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Wasn't Super Soldier supposed to be a surprisingly decent game? It was made by Next Level, too.
Discotheque
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the man was literally against putting RDJ in Cap 3 because he didn't want to give him the pay raise lmao. so spiteful.
That's the thing, Marvel has full control over the non-Fox incarnations of the X-Men & the Fantastic Four in anything not live-action. That's the reason why Marvel is able to get away with this ban, it's technically not a breach of their deal with Fox.
The original PlayStation even with Disruptor in 1996 and Spyro the Dragon in 1998.
KelpPlankton
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Man, I wish every company cared this much about getting good games made for their IPs. Think about how amazing it could be if something like Adventure Time had a AAA budget and a great dev studio for their console games.
Props to Marvel for understanding that the Batman Arkham games weren't some weird fluke, that you can get incredibly good superhero games as long as you have a passionate, talented team working on a property without being hamstrung by time or budget.
Props to Marvel for understanding that the Batman Arkham games weren't some weird fluke, that you can get incredibly good superhero games as long as you have a passionate, talented team working on a property without being hamstrung by time or budget.
Triggerhappytel
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That's all very well and everything, but Spider-Man will probably sell 5x the amount that Sunset Overdrive did, and I'm sure they'll continue with smaller projects like Edge of Nowhere and that animal fighting game. They're a big enough studio for multiple projects, even if at any time one of those projects is bigger than all the others.
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