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[the_lizard]

This is very exciting. So many people (myself included) have been saying for years that they need to create a AAA video game universe on par with their movie universe. It's just so clearly a grand slam waiting to happen if they handle the properties correctly. Obviously we won't know how well they've done until the games start coming out, but Ong is saying all the right things, so I'm hopeful.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Look, Jay Ong... you, and I... we both know I'm the guy to put together a Punisher game for you. Work with me and I will deliver you gold.

I have been reiterating ideas for amazing Punisher games for a decade.

Also, I have ideas for Black Widow, Hawkeye, Agent Venom, and Winter Soldier.

Oh. And Moon Knight. And Ghost Rider.

 

[Rymuth]

Wasn't Super Soldier supposed to be a surprisingly decent game? It was made by Next Level, too.

Tbh, that Captain America game wasn't even that bad for a movie tie-in. The sound effect when you hit dudes with your shield was super satisfying.

I'll concede...when I was into my achievement hunting phase, it was not a terrible experience.

 

[Warxard]

The Spider-Man game is it.

Insomniac makes way better playing games than Rocksteady ever could so I'm glad they're going to set a new bar in Comic Book games.

 

[Discotheque]

I wonder what this means for the future of Ratchet and Clank.

it's groot and rocket raccoon from now on.

 

[Zackat]

Marve is killin it

 

[Neoxon]

This is very exciting. I, among many others, have been saying for years that they need to create a AAA video game universe on par with their movie universe. Obviously we won't know how well they've done until the games start coming out, but Ong is saying all the right things, so I'm hopeful.

Again, that still raises an issue for games like fighting games & MOBAs where they want access to as many of Marvel's characters as possible. Granted, two franchises are already out of the question, but it'd be dumb if Capcom can't use Venom because Insomniac wants to introduce Venom in 2022 for the next Spider-Man game.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

At the risk of sounding like a fanboy, I would be Ok with Marvel working with Sony on a bunch of their IPs so they can pick great devs and have some good crossover in their games

 

[J-Skee]

It's interesting that the publisher is just as important as the developer for Marvel. With Insomniac, they're an independent developer that can go with any publisher. So picking Sony makes sense for Marvel if it fits their plans. But say they wanted to work with Bioware on another game. Is Marvel okay with EA publishing as well?

 

[Neoxon]

it's groot and rocket raccoon from now on.

If the rumors are true, they would be more up Telltale Games' alley.

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

Marvel vs Capcom 4 now please, Fuck the X-Men.

 

[vg260]

No matter how much power I doubt they go back to 60fps which is fine by me

Surely there would be extra power with the Neo. Why not use it? If people are happy with the base PS4 Spider-Man version at 30, why would they care what's done with the extra power?

 

[Neoxon]

It's interesting that the publisher is just as important as the developer for Marvel. With Insomniac, they're an independent developer that can go with any publisher. So picking Sony makes sense for Marvel if it fits their plans. But say they wanted to work with Bioware on another game. Is Marvel okay with EA publishing as well?

Marvel's deal with Insomniac & Sony Interactive Entertainment seems to mainly be for the Spider-Man series of games (think of it like the Arkham series). Any other publisher is open to approaching Marvel for a license for their games.

 

[F4r0_Atak]

Garbage. They basically just alienated PC gamers and Xbox gamers from playing future Spider-Man games.

What could they do? Disney doesn't want to publish console/PC games anymore. It's not like Activision could put out great Spider-man games. That and they (Marvel) went to Sony to talk about a potential Spider-Man project. Marvel also wanted Spider-Man to be treated as if it was a First-Party IP/title.

 

[alba]

Finally! Now give me a good IM game, please.

 

[Sesha]

True, but Marvel might look at reviews and sales and that don't paint a pretty picture. They are not Platinum fans like GAF here.

I think forum posters are more bothered by "spots" in the record of a developer than the guys at Marvel and Disney. I'm sure they are more informed than that. Platinum has a reputation for making great action games, and their games are capable of selling well when they work on successful established IPs like MGS and Transformers. Revengeance is highest selling game developed by them, selling way over 2m (probably 3m now).

All I want is an Injustice-style Marvel game.

And no, Marvel vs. Capcom doesn't count.

I would imagine that would be a harder sell for Capcom. I can't think of any other developers with the capacity and capability to make a game like that.

Marvel vs Capcom 4 now please, Fuck the X-Men.

I will take Marvel anything developed by Capcom at this point.

 

[the_lizard]

Again, that still raises an issue for games like fighting games & MOBAs where they want access to as many of Marvel's characters as possible. Granted, two franchises are already out of the question, but it'd be dumb if Capcom can't use Venom because Insomniac wants to introduce Venom in 2022 for the next Spider-Man game.

True, it seems a little easier for game developers to play nice than move producers, though, so thats hope-inspiring.

 

[catashtrophe]

Give From Software X-Men

 

[Anung]

How would that work when all Matt can see is this?

Combine this

with this

And you'll have the best Daredevil dating sim of all time.

Mattoful Boyfriend

 

[spectator]

This is exactly what I wanted to hear from Marvel- sounds like their heads are on straight and priorities in good order.

 

[Neoxon]

Marvel vs Capcom 4 now please, Fuck the X-Men.

I've been flip-flopping between if I want it now or later, but recent events have elevated my hype into wanting it now. But consider this, you know how there's weekly shit-on-SFV threads here on GAF? Imagine what would happen if someone saw the MvC4 roster & wasn't aware about the shady business practices that Marvel has been up to? As stated before, Capcom would most likely take the fall for the missing X-Men & F4 characters.

 

[Nirolak]

Again, that still raises an issue for games like fighting games & MOBAs where they want access to as many of Marvel's characters as possible. Granted, two franchises are already out of the question, but it'd be dumb if Capcom can't use Venom because Insomniac wants to introduce Venom in 2022 for the next Spider-Man game.

I think you're taking the statement a bit literally.

They don't want to release two separate Spider-Man games. This is different than having a Marvel ensemble game.

 

[Sami+]

"The future of Spider-Man is with Sony and Insomniac"

E3 of Dreams 2.0 😭😭😭

 

[otakukidd]

So our biggest question now is... Can the game cover use the spiderman font?

 

[Dinjooh]

Surely there would be extra power with the Neo. Why not use it? If people are happy with the base PS4 Spider-Man version at 30, why would they care what's done with the extra power?

Because the same reasoning would still apply. As they said in their piece:

We want to give you guys, our fans and players, the best looking games you can buy on a console.

So when you're getting the Neo version, chances are that it's with all bells and whistles turned up, and not the framerate.

 

[Neoxon]

Give From Software X-Men

We both know that won't happen anytime soon. The closest you'll get to that is an Inhumans game. The info on the ban is on the 2nd page of this thread.

 

[Blade30]

Activision sold the IPs back early for everything but Spider-Man film tie-in games, and it's plausible they sold those back as well.

There was some kind of deal later to let them put up their legacy titles.

That said, they say that Activision is out of the picture for Spider-Man specifically, so it's not impossible they're making some other game, but it's not clear to me who would actually be doing so for them.

Wait what do you mean with "it's not impossible for them to make some other games"?

It's still reassuring to know that (aside from the movie tie-ins) Activision no longer has anything to do with the Spider-Man games.

ps. Obsidian/CDP Red doing a Marvel RPG game would be great.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Can you guys imagine a Moon Knight game by Kojima?

 

[GlassEmpires]

• Marvel will also only work with developers who are clearly very excited about the IP itself instead of just the IP's money making potential. He notes that he can usually tell within the first 30 seconds if someone is actually passionate about the IP in question.

This all but confirms that any FF game will be great

 

[BodiesWithoutOrgans]

Is the Spider-Man game only on ps4?

 

[F4r0_Atak]

"The future of Spider-Man is with Sony and Insomniac"

E3 of Dreams 2.0 😭😭😭

Do you mean Dreams 3.0 (E3 2017)? Unless you are referring to E3 2016, then it's fine.

 

[FelipeMGM]

This could be huge stuff. PlayStation has now a Spider-Man series beeing treated as a first party franchise. That makes me think if MS and even Nintendo will go after them trying to get similar deals with other IP's

Is the Spider-Man game only on ps4?

Yes, beeing published by Sony Interactive Entertainment and co-developed by SIE San Mateo studio

 

[Neoxon]

I think you're taking the statement a bit literally.

They don't want to release two separate Spider-Man games. This is different than having a Marvel ensemble game.

I get that, but what the person I was quoting was suggesting is a game universe similar to the MCU. I'm just noting the potential issues with such an initiative.

 

[exmachina64]

Jay Ong has done two more interviews about Marvel's upcoming plans:
http://venturebeat.com/2016/06/16/j...-return-to-blockbuster-games-with-spider-man/
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2016-06-15-spider-man-leads-marvels-epic-new-console-strategy

Summary:

• Jay's team is specifically focused on console-style games for Marvel. The mobile and social stuff is already hitting it out of the park, so his group is dedicated to making their console games great again.
• Insomniac/Sony's Spider-Man series will be the only console Spider-Man series going forward. They want to find excellent teams and then dedicate the IPs to them so they can focus on quality. That's not to say Spider-Man can't be in a cross-over game, but you won't see something like Activision console Spider-Man games coming out alongside these. Jay explicitly says "The future of the Spider-Man console games is with Sony and Insomniac."
• Movie tie-in games are over for Marvel. This is the same as their mobile strategy. All games will be given lengthy development cycles with all the budget they need and have no concerns about hitting a specific date tied to a movie/comic book/whatever. Marvel is very clear that developers cannot be rushed or underfunded if they're going to make great games.
• That said, Jay notes that on the mobile side, the games tend to have tie-in events when films or certain initiatives like Women of Marvel launch. He doesn't explicitly commit to this happening on the console side, since it probably varies a lot per game, but don't be super shocked if you have downloadable skins or DLC for a game when a movie or comic book initiative comes out, especially if it's a living product.
• When asked about whether Marvel's console games will have cross-overs and cameos like the films do, he states "The world's full of surprises. You never know."
• Jay notes that in the past, they used to take about 30% of console game opportunities that are presented to them. These days it's more like 10%.
• He's also clear that Marvel will only work with developers who they think will make excellent, top tier titles instead of just "good" games. So far their two publicly announced partners are Insomniac and Telltale. He speaks very fondly of the LEGO games, but IIRC that's run out of the mobile licensing division.
• Marvel will also only work with developers who are clearly very excited about the IP itself instead of just the IP's money making potential. He notes that he can usually tell within the first 30 seconds if someone is actually passionate about the IP in question.
• There's an implication that the publishing partner is also important to them. I imagine this is especially true for retail games.
• Jay mentions that the success of the films and the success of their top mobile games, along with the break away from the movie game model, has resulted in way more developers being interested in working with them. He mentions that developers have even gotten more open to the idea during his two year tenure as titles like Marvel: Contest of Champions have crossed $200 million.
• As for working with Insomniac specifically, Jay mentions that they're only 10 minutes away from the studio and 10 minutes away from Sony as well, so that they're in contact every day, which they think is very helpful for getting their new initiative going well. They also openly admit that Spider-Man is the most commercially successful superhero so they're more than happy to start with him.
• Jay notes they have several other console games in development that will be revealed over the upcoming years. I probably wouldn't expect an immediate impending announcement (beyond perhaps unveiling Telltale's game) since he wasn't teasing any more reveals soon.

God is real.

 

[ZeroCDR]

This sounds amazing, wish this was in effect when MvC3 was in development, that game could have been so much more (but still turned out pretty great all things considered).

Looking forward to great things in the future, hopefully this includes Marvel vs Capcom 4. Would also love to see the previous titles on PC and current gen.

 

[KevinCow]

So Marvel Super Heroes 2 (made by Capcom, of course)? NRS already has DC Comics to work with, & their games don't last very long in the FGC anyway/

I haven't played Marvel Super Heroes, but watching some videos on Youtube, it seems to still have the awful MvC mechanic where characters jump so high in the air that the other character is pushed off screen.

So no, I definitely don't want Marvel Super Heroes 2.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

This could be huge stuff. PlayStation has now a Spider-Man series beeing treated as a first party franchise. That makes me think if MS and even Nintendo will go after them trying to get similar deals with other IP's

Only if the developer has the passion for it and the publisher will fully support it and treat it as a first party title.

Which I will, Jay. Just hire me. I got this.

 

[Nirolak]

Wait what do you mean with "it's not impossible for them to make some other games"?.

He said "But Activision is in the past, with regards to Spider-Man."

He's leaving the door open that they might make Iron Man or whatever. I don't think they are, but he's not ruling it out.

 

[Neoxon]

I haven't played Marvel Super Heroes, but watching some videos on Youtube, it seems to still have the awful MvC mechanic where characters jump so high in the air that the other character is pushed off screen.

So no, I definitely don't want Marvel Super Heroes 2.

I honestly don't get your beef with the MvC games.

This all but confirms that any FF game will be great

But, again, we know that won't happen anytime soon.

 

[kurahador]

Sucker Punch would be a perfect fit for a game like this;

 

[AfroDust]

I need a sequel to The Incredible Hulk:Ultimate Destruction Marvel.

 

[Neoxon]

Sucker Punch would be a perfect fit for a game like this;

But Marvel won't allow it. We could get an Inhumans game similar to X-Men: Destiny (except done right), but that's it.

 

[F4r0_Atak]

Is the Spider-Man game only on ps4?

Definitive yes. Hopefully, this quote will help you...

I think this quote will help explain it:

"We've had a long history of success with Activision, and we still have a great relationship with them," Ong said. "But the future of the Spider-Man console games is with Sony and Insomniac. We're delighted about this partnership, and that's something that's going to continue forward. With [regard to] other console partners, stay tuned. There's many more interesting additional things to come. But Activision is in the past, with regards to Spider-Man."

For the foreseeable future, if you want a AAA Spider-Man console game (as opposed to a casual/family or mobile game), your option is going to be Sony and Insomniac on PS4.

 

[nillapuddin]

just stay with me here





MvC2 4K.

Spoiler

if there was truly a god, this would happen.

 

[Ploid 3.0]

A potential goldmine of an exclusive if Insomniac delivers.

Apparently this is the biggest budget they ever had, and the team working on it is the biggest, Sony isn't holding them back on this.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Oh good, cuz I was tired of mediocre-to-average Marvel games. Focus on working with great devs for high quality products.

Now for several years of "From Software/Naughty Dog/Platinum Games for *insert marvel character* wishlists

 

[Nirolak]

I get that, but what the person I was quoting was suggesting is a game universe similar to the MCU. I'm just noting the potential issues with such an initiative.

Oh, yeah, I don't think they're going to do that in the most direct sense.

If Telltale is making a Thor game and wants Spider-Man to show up in an episode, and Insomniac has already picked out a voice actor and design or whatever for Spider-Man in video games, it's plausible they'll just use that, but I don't think they'll do anything on the scale of the MCU.

 

[Dinjooh]

Sucker Punch would be a perfect fit for a game like this;

As was said by Element, Sucker Punch will likely never work on an IP they haven't created.

 

[Neoxon]

just stay with me here





MvC2 4K.

Spoiler

if there was truly a god, this would happen.

I could see MvC2 getting a port in a new MvC collection if Capcom renews its license.

 

[PadWarrior]

All I want is an Injustice-style Marvel game.

And no, Marvel vs. Capcom doesn't count.

Agreed.