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[Banjo64]

Obviously, could be speculation, however could also be insider knowledge from a company who you’d expect to have the inside track.

From the FTC/Microsoft court case:

“Xbox Series S is sold for $50 less than the Switch OLED model,” Microsoft stated in their proposed findings of fact legal document.

PlayStation likewise sells a less expensive Digital Edition for $399.99, and is expected to release a PlayStation 5 Slim later this year at the same reduced price point.” A footnote on the same page touches on Project Q’s expected price as under $300, which would roughly convert to £235 / AU$450.

 

[killatopak]

So physical slim only? No digital?

 

[TLZ]

I wonder how it'll look like. How much smaller can it go? I wonder if they'll get rid of the design or keep it.

 

[Banjo64]

So physical slim only? No digital?

In my experience in relation to console rumours, a lot of the time there is no smoke without fire. I think the previous rumours sound believable, and the sources were good. So one SKU to replace the current 2, it’s going to be digital, there will be an external disc drive add on.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

I wonder if a smaller form factor will bring back fan noise. I have been thinking of getting a PS5 Slim, but wouldn't sacrifice quiet for a smaller form factor.

 

[Heisenberg007]

So physical slim only? No digital?

Physical only.

 

[mrmustard]

I wonder if a smaller form factor will bring back fan noise. I have been thinking of getting a PS5 Slim, but wouldn't sacrifice quiet for a smaller form factor.

If i don't mess something up, the PS4 Slim was by far the most quiet PS4. Normal PS4 was a disgrace, first Pro was a jet engine and Pro revision was a vacuum cleaner with coil whine. So i wouldn't expect a PS5 Slim to be louder than the normal one.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Many people are underestimating how big this move will be. If Sony can sell this at $399 (or even $449), it will disrupt the market significantly. Xbox Series X will be $499.

A secondary advantage for Sony is that many people will opt not to buy the optional disc drive, which will increase their digital sales ratio even more.

This seemingly small move by Sony can prove catastrophic for Xbox console sales -- especially when coupled with the PS5 Pro next year.

 

[Team Andromeda]

SONY need to. The PS5 is One Ugly Mother F#cker

 

[CrustyBritches]

Isn't the PS5 "slim" the rumored single-sku PS5 digital with a slot for add-on drive? So currently the digital is $399 and disc is $499. After the "Slim" the digital will be $399 and the disc will be $499?

 

[AREYOUOKAY?]

Hurry up already. I need it for the FF7 remake.

 

[Bernardougf]

Many people are underestimating how big this move will be. If Sony can sell this at $399 (or even $449), it will disrupt the market significantly. Xbox Series X will be $499.

A secondary advantage for Sony is that many people will opt not to buy the optional disc drive, which will increase their digital sales ratio even more.

This seemingly small move by Sony can prove catastrophic for Xbox console sales -- especially when coupled with the PS5 Pro next year.

If they are aiming the pro at 599 ... xbox x better lower the price

But I think that MS maybe shortening this gen ... if this ABK thing dosent complete for them I can see them abandoning the series consoles and starting fresh in 2025 or 26 ... the series consoles are just dead , starfield may uplift things for a while but dont think is going to be enough, and this two SKU approach they chose is going to start to put them behind, they have to remove the parity clause or they are fucked

Perhaps going directly against sony every gen is not the way to go .. time to try something different and like the 360 launch early and get some momentum going before the new playstation arrives

 

[MasterCornholio]

SONY need to. The PS5 is One Ugly Mother F#cker

I wouldn't say they need to since the PS5 sells okay despite its looks. But it's good for cost reduction and increasing production which is what Sony is interested in the most.

 

[Heisenberg007]

If they are aiming the pro at 599 ... xbox x better lower the price

But I think that MS maybe shortening this gen ... if this ABK thing dosent complete for them I can see them abandoning the series consoles and starting fresh in 2025 or 26 ... the series consoles are just dead , starfield may uplift things for a while but dont think is going to be enough, and this two SKU approach they chose is going to start to put them behind, they have to remove the parity clause or they are fucked

Perhaps going directly against sony every gen is not the way to go .. time to try something different and like the 360 launch early and get some momentum going before the new playstation arrives

If Sony wants to go for the kill -- which I think it does -- they will price the PS5 Slim (basically the only PS5 edition in the market at that point) at $399. The PS5 Pro in 2024 will then be priced at $499.

 

[Team Andromeda]

I wouldn't say they need to since the PS5 sells okay despite its looks. But it's good for cost reduction and increasing production which is what Sony is interested in the most.

Its so big and ugly and really not SONY, well we did get the PSX I guess

 

[rofif]

SONY need to. The PS5 is One Ugly Mother F#cker

ps5 is beautiful!
Not sure if I will be upgrading to slim. ps5 is already nice looking and quiet. It's just big and I have my furniture modified to fit it

 

[MasterCornholio]

Its so big and ugly and really not SONY, well we did get the PSX I guess

Well it still sold okay despite its looks. Pretty happy with how quiet mine is. I wouldn't say they can't survive without a slim console.

 

[TLZ]

I wonder if a smaller form factor will bring back fan noise. I have been thinking of getting a PS5 Slim, but wouldn't sacrifice quiet for a smaller form factor.

Usually slim versions use less energy therefore produce less heat and are as a result quieter.

 

[Mr Hyde]

If a slim is on the table I'm selling my OG one ASAP.

 

[Heisenberg007]

ps5 is beautiful!
Not sure if I will be upgrading to slim. ps5 is already nice looking and quiet. It's just big and I have my furniture modified to fit it

That collection though!

 

[Buggy Loop]

Gonna be tough to slim that fat bitch to anything « slim »

 

[Elysium44]

SONY need to. The PS5 is One Ugly Mother F#cker

This is true. My PS4 slim is a thing of beauty and the PS5's ugliness is why I haven't bought one yet.

 

[Mr Hyde]

Gonna be tough to slim that fat bitch to anything « slim »

After 4 weeks.

 

[ArcaneNLSC]

Gonna be tough to slim that fat bitch to anything « slim »

She's not fat she's just pregnant from all the bangers we are going to play soon

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

What we thinking, announcement August, release in Sept/Oct?

 

[Three]

What we thinking, announcement August, release in Sept/Oct?

IF the rumour is true I would say announcement and release both in September. That's a big if though.

 

[Tsaki]

So physical slim only? No digital?

Don't put too much stock on the Slim naming. It will be a Digital PS5 that can have a Blue-ray add on attached to it. I don't see how they can make it much slimmer without going to a 5nm node (it will probably still be 6nm). It will be somewhat different in shape since the new design will have to accommodate the new add-on. Which also puts up a question about how will the PS5 plates be compatible?

 

[twilo99]

I wonder how it'll look like. How much smaller can it go? I wonder if they'll get rid of the design or keep it.

The PS5 is huge so lots of margin.

 

[Tsaki]

What we thinking, announcement August, release in Sept/Oct?

Expect a 2 week period (at most) between official announcement and release. They don't want to cannibalize existing SKU sales by people waiting for the new hardware. September is the likeliest for release.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

 

[ToTTenTranz]

So physical slim only? No digital?

Rumors point to physical slim + external blu-ray to replace both current models.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Calling all industry insiders reading this to please leak an image of the design ASAP so I can decide whether or not to get rid of my current PS5 this month.

Thank you.

 

[Pelta88]

ps5 is beautiful!
Not sure if I will be upgrading to slim. ps5 is already nice looking and quiet. It's just big and I have my furniture modified to fit it

That mantle! I see Returnal, Miles Morales, Demon Souls. HFW, TLOU Part 1 etc etc etc

I see you've been eating good. In fact, you've been feasting!

 

[//DEVIL//]

If i don't mess something up, the PS4 Slim was by far the most quiet PS4. Normal PS4 was a disgrace, first Pro was a jet engine and Pro revision was a vacuum cleaner with coil whine. So i wouldn't expect a PS5 Slim to be louder than the normal one.

Not necessary the same case can apply here the ps3 super slim was a bit louder than slim.

If they are using the same nm die size in smaller form factor ( smaller fan ), then it won't be as quite as current ps5. Probably no liquid metal either .

I think the current cfi 1200 series is perfect. I have the god of war edition and man it's even quiter than my old day 1 model I had before I sold it

 

[Little Mac]

FFS please. Much better. Hope there is a significant redesign. Wanted to buy a PS5 for FFXVI but I can't stand the current design. I understand form follows function and its a great videogame console, but its just an eyesore to me. The shape. The size. The matt side panels surrounding the glossy black plastic ...

 

[Banjo64]

FFS please. Much better. Hope there is a significant redesign. Wanted to buy a PS5 for FFXVI but I can't stand the current design. I understand form follows function and its a great videogame console, but its just an eyesore to me. The shape. The size. The matt side panels surrounding the glossy black plastic ...

I don’t think we’ll see a continuation of the current design language (curves, gloss plastic) however I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s still white and black.

The PS3 and PS4 slim designs ditched gloss in favour of matte and ditched all elements of the previous look.

 

[harry mason 1989]

Ps5 slim spider man 2 bundle out in October

 

[Robb]

That’d be awesome!

I really hope they can make it a lot smaller/slimmer than the current model.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

Many people are underestimating how big this move will be. If Sony can sell this at $399 (or even $449), it will disrupt the market significantly. Xbox Series X will be $499.

A secondary advantage for Sony is that many people will opt not to buy the optional disc drive, which will increase their digital sales ratio even more.

This seemingly small move by Sony can prove catastrophic for Xbox console sales -- especially when coupled with the PS5 Pro next year.

This is not changing much.

We already have a PS5DE or $399. This `PS5 Slim`, is in truth, still just the PS5DE but smaller, and with some sort of contraption that lets you attach a disc drive to it. This would actually be the first time that the introduction of a slim SKU, does not come with a price drop. Not only would Sony be making money on the actual console, but they will also be making a good amount off anyone that spends what I expect will be the $100 for the disc drive attachment. Though that can also come in at $70. Sony still makes something though, being that said attachment cant cost them more than $40 to make/package and ship).

I'll give you the digital sales spike though, I don't see a lot of people buying the disc attachment. And the long-term effect of that is, when the PS6 is released, being digital only with a disk attachment, will be the norm by then, almost expected.

As for Xbox sales, I sincerely think at this point that is a non-issue. PS5 is still maintaining the sale ratio to it that the PS4 had to XB1. What Sony needs to do is get the Ps5 down to $299. But with hwweVV it sells, and I fear that may never happen. We would sooner see games bundled with the slim at $399 than ever seeing the price dropped to $299.

 

[MasterCornholio]

That's actually seems possible.

 

[Alphagear]

In my experience in relation to console rumours, a lot of the time there is no smoke without fire. I think the previous rumours sound believable, and the sources were good. So one SKU to replace the current 2, it’s going to be digital, there will be an external disc drive add on.

The whole purpose of the detachable disk drive is to make production cheaper and easier.

There will be 2 SKUs. Simply attach the disk drive and you have the physical model and vice versa.

Doesn’t mean the disk drive will be sold separately.

 

[jm89]

ps5 is beautiful!
Not sure if I will be upgrading to slim. ps5 is already nice looking and quiet. It's just big and I have my furniture modified to fit it

I see last guardian

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

That’d be awesome!

I really hope they can make it a lot smaller/slimmer than the current model.

They can... and it will

1000 = launch model
1200 = 2nd refresh (2022) which still is on the 7nm node. But they ready started combing ICsand managed to make the cooler, shield, and board smaller.

The slim would be on a 5nm process, which means Ves heat so smaller cooling system, ess power so smaller PSU, and thus an all-around smaller Chassis.

 

[Robb]

The slim would be on a 5nm process, which means Ves heat so smaller cooling system, ess power so smaller PSU, and thus an all-around smaller Chassis.

 

[Loxus]

They can... and it will

1000 = launch model
1200 = 2nd refresh (2022) which still is on the 7nm node. But they ready started combing ICsand managed to make the cooler, shield, and board smaller.

The slim would be on a 5nm process, which means Ves heat so smaller cooling system, ess power so smaller PSU, and thus an all-around smaller Chassis.

No, 1200 is on 6nm.
PlayStation 5 Refresh Boasts New 6nm AMD Oberon Plus SoC

Many including myself, speculate the 6nm is already the PS5 Slim motherboard.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Many retailers across EU have discounted the disc PS5 to €449.99 from €549.99 so maybe we'll hear some news about the redesigned model fairly soon?

Edit: Someone should make a thread about the discounted disc PS5 in EU while we're at it.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

No, 1200 is on 6nm.
PlayStation 5 Refresh Boasts New 6nm AMD Oberon Plus SoC

Many including myself, speculate the 6nm is already the PS5 Slim motherboard.

Ok thanks for the correction. So yes, it's already on track to being smaller.

 

[saintjules]

Why are people expecting two different versions of a slim? My guess is it will be the slim with a detachable disc drive from that rumor we heard.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

Why are people expecting two different versions of a slim? My guess is it will be the slim with a detachable disc drive from that rumor we heard.

It wouldn't even surprise me if it looks identical to the PS5DE, but with a cavity inside it to accept a disc drive.

 

[Loxus]

Ok thanks for the correction. So yes, it's already on track to being smaller.

5nm is still possible.

3nm may not reduce the cost of the PS5.