Life is already pretty hard for anyone that ignorant.
Or to be more precise, an Ouya farm.
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Microsoft buys Havok from Intel, GAFfers tear skin off while screaming about endtimes
- Thread starter gofreak
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Life is already pretty hard for anyone that ignorant.
Or to be more precise, an Ouya farm.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Well as I'm sure you are aware, there are NO devs developing console games on Windows. Actually, Sony develops all PS4 games on Android.
The TRUE use of Ouya tbh.
Primethius
Banned
LOL
Garrett Hawke
Member
I feel like every time MS (not Xbox) buys something like this there should be a line in the OP stating that probably nothing will change and this doesn't mean that Sony + Nintendo are screwed.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Well obviously they would license it. Denying competitors a license was never a question.
For the nothing changes crowd. What is the possibility of having an internal customized solution in addition to a vendor product version?
Similar to DirectX 11.1 exclusive to windows 8, DirectX10 exclusive to vista, direct 11.2 exclusive to xbox one, etc. Only in this instance it is middleware
Similar to DirectX 11.1 exclusive to windows 8, DirectX10 exclusive to vista, direct 11.2 exclusive to xbox one, etc. Only in this instance it is middleware
dragonbane
Member
Companies are not invested into what you think they are. At all. They wont care if it doesnt suddenly become super expensive to license, which is unlikely. Most studios are powered by a shit ton of MS software already.
They already tell you exactly what they're doing. They're adding a cloud based physics option to their product line-up that will presumably be a service you can pay for and hosted on Azure servers.
Similarly they sell Microsoft Visual Studio to developers across the world, and even Sony built their PlayStation development toolset as a plugin for it.
They're primarily an enterprise services and software company.
funkystudent
Member
If nvidia gets it shit in line this could be a real boon to physx.
First thing that comes to mind is EA buying criterian and renderware and the dozens of developers who jumped to unreal or a custom engine afterwards.
First thing that comes to mind is EA buying criterian and renderware and the dozens of developers who jumped to unreal or a custom engine afterwards.
Basileus777
Member
Companies were already licensing Havok for a fee. Why should anyone care that they are now paying it to Microsoft?
GameWhisperer
Banned
I don't see this as a smart move fro MS...games will be moving away from havok and moving towards GPU accelerated physics.
Poodlestrike
Banned
I think that the big takeaway from this is them sticking cloud compute tools in there. They're essentially snagging Havok for a) royalties and b) market/mindshare to promote cloud compute. PS4 games are safe, probably.
neurosyphilis
Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
Damn, Microsoft isn't messing around. And no this won't change anything, a lot of companies use assets from other companies. Most Smartphones have Sony camera's, Samsung chips, etc. Minecraft is owned by MS and it's still on every platform.
When Microsoft bought SyntaxTree it was pretty well known that no Unity games ever shipped on PlayStation or Nintendo systems again. You can't even find mobile games on Unity anymore.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Because MS offered them a giant pile of money, and maybe some other stuff.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Damn. Microsoft shows why they're smart. You can't beat a purchase like that.
JayWood2010
Member
Havok, Cloud, and DX12. THey are really offering a lot of big services to video games this generation. I wonder if they really will get AMD
Angelus Errare
Banned
Guys the console war is almost exclusively a fan/gamer construct. MS isn't going to stop licensing Havok because of said imaginary war.
SamastahSukhino
Banned
Great get for Microsoft. Running to the store to get a bottle of champagne to celebrate this joyous occasion. I know I will sleep a lot better tonight knowing havok is in good hands.
Huh?
Sorry apparently I'm not making my sarcasm strong enough.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/somasegar/a...ator-of-unityvs-plugin-for-visual-studio.aspx
Much later, still supporting everything: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dn879350.aspx
CassidyIzABeast
Member
People really believe the console war goes beyond marketing/PR and social media/forums?
I don't think I've ever seen you be sarcastic before.
Was genuinely taken aback by your post for a second there.
Your sarcasm detector is in dire need of a repair.
JayWood2010
Member
I think this is important for people to realize. Just like Microsoft kept Minecraft multiplatform MSFT will most certainly license this to Sony and Nintendo. Microsoft will get more money that way and theyll also save on money owning it themselves. Theyre also trying to get more out of Cloud this way it seems too.
GameWhisperer
Banned
Would certainly be an interesting route to go down with Havok having Cloud Computer options as part of it. Will be interesting to also see what other uses of the Cloud power developers come up with after the Crackdown 3 demo.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Smiles and Cries
Member
wait they own Unity as well or a plugin?
I don't believe MS will make some HUGE profit from it. It isn't like Intel is in a hurry for money so they probably sold Havok for a sum of money it won't be able to achieve until a long time. Also it's highly unlikely MS will stop licensing Havok for competitors. This will just mean their newly purchased product market will shrink while competitors will expand. Meanwhile Xbox won't gain much since Sony and Nin will find an alternative and continue to make exclusives.
Naughty Dog will build a better one. Those scamps.
I agree. Sony makes money off Microsoft (blu-ray licensing for xbox one through blu-ray disc association) and through hdmi licensing (Sony is listed as part of a consortium of companies that own the hdmi spec and adopters must pay $10k yearly to continue to be so.) So it stands to reason that MS will make money off of Sony as well in one avenue or another. Windows license for the PCs that Sony uses company wide and for any computers they sell (assuming Sony still sells computers).
In short Sony and MS are customers to each other in various ways and instances. There is no reason why Sony wouldn't still use Havok so long as MS doesn't crank up the pricing for said license.
Huh?
JeffG
Member
Imagine if Microsoft released a windows patch so that all Windows OS's would stop working until all the governments in the world gave Microsoft "1 MILLION DOLLARS" to fix their computers
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I've associated them with rag dolls physics since the get go. MS might be trying to find ways to make money without actually doing anything.
It isn't like this is Bleem though
It isn't like this is Bleem though
They own the plugin most people use to code for Unity games on consoles and it still supports all the consoles.
I remember the first UC use their owns tech physics. But just the first.