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Minnesota man who killed teens in break-in charged with murder
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Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
nm.
Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
Yeah, seriously.
"She laughed right as I was just about to blow her brains out. That really made me lose my cool".
HurricaneJesus
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Only one was reported, so who knows what the real story is.
FUBAR McDangles
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Devolution
Member
Non-reported? Huh. Might as well just make shit up then to excuse your actions.
The fact that all kinds of people can own them including those with mental instability is fucked up.
Thaedolus
Member
If someone broke into my home and was advancing toward me I would absolutely shoot them and shoot to kill. If they were lucky enough to still be alive after that, no fucking way would I execute them, I'd call the police and an ambulance immediately and hope they died before they got there so they couldn't sue me later.
That might sound brutish and violent (because it is) but I'm sorry, I'm not going to wait around and find out if someone's intention is to steal my shit or to rape my fiance when they've broken into my house. If they're already running away with a TV, fine run off. Stuff is stuff. But if you're coming at me or mine, you better be prepared to eat lead.
The solution to the above shitty scenario is to simply not break into someone's house.
That might sound brutish and violent (because it is) but I'm sorry, I'm not going to wait around and find out if someone's intention is to steal my shit or to rape my fiance when they've broken into my house. If they're already running away with a TV, fine run off. Stuff is stuff. But if you're coming at me or mine, you better be prepared to eat lead.
The solution to the above shitty scenario is to simply not break into someone's house.
HyperCubed4
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In that exact same scenario, I'd probably kill her.
But realistically speaking, I wouldn't put myself in a scenario where I would shoot a person once, then one more time to finish them off. I would shoot them, keep them restrained until the cops get there, have them pick up that house robbing butthead, then get charged for restraining someone who broke into my house. Damn Canada.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
scary post...
This is the difference between the guy in the story and even the most gung-ho advocate of the castle doctrine. It's also why I'm shocked that people are trying to defend or sympathize with the guy. His actions have nothing to do with self-defense or the reasonable use of force. It's straight-up murder by someone who clearly had a few screws loose.
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
He was a demon breh
starchild excalibur
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What a great counter-argument you've provided. Thank you.
Yes, let's applaud people for not acting irrationally for each day that they didn't act irrationally instead of simply considering that normal behavior.
I'm not anti-gun, but the gun laws in the US are fucked up. The fact that there's no psych evaluation needed to purchase something that only serves the purpose of killing is deplorable.
+1. You don't break into someone's home. You're putting people's families at risk when you break into their home. Someone has to already be fucked in the head to think it is acceptable to break into your home, you can't take any risks with that.
Now straight up executing someone is messed up. You only shoot to kill when they're potentially dangerous and still in your home.
Devolution
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I don't have one here. If I can somehow leave and get help there's that option. If I feel trapped, well they're getting a bottle to the head and or face. And if I'm not feeling that adventurous locking myself inside the bathroom and calling 911.
Happypwnstar
Banned
I'm kind of on both side on this he did kill them in cold blood but he did get tired of there shit.
On a second note shut up about how guns did this, if it wasn't a gun that killed them it would of been a knife, baseball bat or something worse and if they had guns and shot the home owner it would just be another daily news story he seen there hips then shot I would of to but after a single shot I would of called the cops.
On a second note shut up about how guns did this, if it wasn't a gun that killed them it would of been a knife, baseball bat or something worse and if they had guns and shot the home owner it would just be another daily news story he seen there hips then shot I would of to but after a single shot I would of called the cops.
Dude Abides
Banned
Would have.
I doubt a senior citizen would have been able to easily knife/bludgeon a pair of teens to death.
timetokill
Banned
A bat to the face works pretty well, or so I'm told.
jamesinclair
Banned
Again, guy is clearly insane. Probably watched dateline and thinks it happened to him.
Hero_of_the_Day
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I am a gun owner who would shoot anyone who came into my house, and think comments about firing warning shots or shooting someone in the shoulder are pretty dumb.
This dude is still a psychotic sounding piece of shit that should be removed from society. The thought of having to kill someone to defened myself makes me sick to my stomach, I can't imagine being so fucked up that you laugh as you put a "mercy shot" into an 18 year olds skull. Fuck me...
This dude is still a psychotic sounding piece of shit that should be removed from society. The thought of having to kill someone to defened myself makes me sick to my stomach, I can't imagine being so fucked up that you laugh as you put a "mercy shot" into an 18 year olds skull. Fuck me...
Zoe
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Luckily juries have disagreed with you.
CitizenCope
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Yeah that homeowner ain't all there.
Can't say I feel bad for the kids. Break into peoples homes and you're bound to find someone crazier than you.
Can't say I feel bad for the kids. Break into peoples homes and you're bound to find someone crazier than you.
MWS Natural
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Was wondering why they arrested him until I seen the teen's photos...nvm makes sense now.
Barack Lesnar
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Get outta here with this. The dude executed them and laughed about it. He admitted it. Nothing to do with them being two good looking white kids.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Don't go robbing people's homes
You never know which kind of crazy you'll get
The courtroom is going to be a circus
"My kids didn't need to be murdered..."
"They were breaking and entering..."
"Didn't need to be killed!"
"Well know who you are robbing"
"Crazy is Crazy"
Hope it deters robberies by teens... what am I even saying lol
You never know which kind of crazy you'll get
The courtroom is going to be a circus
"My kids didn't need to be murdered..."
"They were breaking and entering..."
"Didn't need to be killed!"
"Well know who you are robbing"
"Crazy is Crazy"
Hope it deters robberies by teens... what am I even saying lol
IrishNinja
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psych evalvs for gun ownership sounds legit. there'd be some ruby ridge type shit going down when certain people don't pass though. also, this story is horrendous and people making excuses for the execution based on "lol stealing" aren't looking so good, assuming any are serious
like supporters of a progressive tax system amirite
like supporters of a progressive tax system amirite
Nothing better than watching you use racism to accuse people of racism.
cat litter
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I read it as the girl (Kifer) laughed, not the shooter. (Smith)
She probably laughed out of shock, or maybe shes just hard as hell. edit* Oh didnt know she was a drug addict, couldve been that
ErasureAcer
Banned
Suddenly George Zimmerman looks human compared to this nut.
Obama's America
ErasureAcer
Banned
This joke got old 10 minutes after the election dude. Give it up.
Nah it's still good.
CliqWriter
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I'm all for shooting someone in self-defense if they are on your property.
But after self-defense just call the cops. He didn't need to re-act the boondocks
saints execution.
But after self-defense just call the cops. He didn't need to re-act the boondocks
saints execution.
Was ready to defend the home-owner from the thread title, but reading the events of what happened - wow. That guy is fucked up. I am surprised he didn't just quietly bury the bodies off in the woods.
Can't really feel too sorry for the teens in this case tho. You break into someone's house you accept the responsibility that you're going to get hurt or shot to death. This guy did straight up execute them though based on his own admission, so I don't feel bad if he gets sent to prison for this.
Can't really feel too sorry for the teens in this case tho. You break into someone's house you accept the responsibility that you're going to get hurt or shot to death. This guy did straight up execute them though based on his own admission, so I don't feel bad if he gets sent to prison for this.
The Lamonster
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Lock this scum up for life.
MushroomSamba
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Stupid druggie kids, who break into other people's houses and steal shit. Scum. But they're kids and it's tragic they were executed, never have a second chance to learn from their mistakes and grow into adults.
Old psycho, who went way beyond what was necessary and executed a couple kids. Scum. But he was also victim to multiple break-ins up to this point and probably snapped. How would you deal with strangers constantly coming into your house and taking your property? Medication you may need to live? Now the retired guy must spend probably the rest of his life in jail because people kept committing crimes against him.
I don't know whether this is justice or tragedy for either party.
But yeah, let's all go blame it on guns. Because clearly this wouldn't have happened with a knife or a bat or a shovel or a brick.
Old psycho, who went way beyond what was necessary and executed a couple kids. Scum. But he was also victim to multiple break-ins up to this point and probably snapped. How would you deal with strangers constantly coming into your house and taking your property? Medication you may need to live? Now the retired guy must spend probably the rest of his life in jail because people kept committing crimes against him.
I don't know whether this is justice or tragedy for either party.
But yeah, let's all go blame it on guns. Because clearly this wouldn't have happened with a knife or a bat or a shovel or a brick.
ErasureAcer
Banned
It wouldn't have. All those objects are easily avoidable and can easily be turned on the person wielding it or give them an easy chance to run away. If you think some old dude is going to physically outperform a young kid with a knife or any other object you're stupid.
Officerrob
Banned
This line of thinking is idiotic.
You obviously don't understand that it takes a closeness and intimacy to kill someone with a knife (especially) or bat that simply pulling a trigger doesn't require.
They had a death wish, and this old bastard was more then willing to make it happen. Good on ya. Yeah its a bit over the top and wrong................
should have got them with one shot to the skull to begin with. Would gladly find him innocent of all charges and shake his hand for getting rid of two pieces of scum.
should have got them with one shot to the skull to begin with. Would gladly find him innocent of all charges and shake his hand for getting rid of two pieces of scum.
cat litter
Member
Hmm, I guess its not for sure
"Other kids rumored that drugs might have been involved, a subject authorities declined to get into, saying the case is ongoing."
from a dailymail article
"She added that her cousin, who had undergone treatment for substance abuse, could have been after pills from the home."
"Byron Smith said that he suspected that the two had been responsible for at least some of those past robberies."
"Other kids rumored that drugs might have been involved, a subject authorities declined to get into, saying the case is ongoing."
from a dailymail article
"She added that her cousin, who had undergone treatment for substance abuse, could have been after pills from the home."
"Byron Smith said that he suspected that the two had been responsible for at least some of those past robberies."
I still don't get it. Kill her because she laughed that the gun jammed?
Also it's simply not what happened, it wasn't the laugh/chuckle that drove him over the edge and made him wanting to kill her
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