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Miyamoto Says Nintendo Looking To Increase Internal Staff To Create More Projects
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No they don't,
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qizah
Unconfirmed Member
Pushmo and Crashmo did.
metalslimer
Member
Nintendo needs more games in general let alone thinking about new IPs when they can't get the old ones out in a reasonabe time frame.
You're not wrong. They're top quality though. Is the general opinion that people do want new IP's from Nintendo but they have to be 9/10 or even 10/10 games or they won't be notified?
metalslimer
Member
Isn't that the case for a lot of new IPs? Look at Remember Me (more ironic name ever). At the very least new IPs need a lot more exposure from NIntendo. I'll see how they do with W101, but I'm not expecting too much.
Newsflash: Nintendo is working only for Nintendo. (Monolith is Nintendo)
I don't mean to get out in the weeds, but monolith soft has made games for other consoles and most of its staff are former square developers. nintendo acquired a controlling share in the company at some point. But when I made my original statement, what I was talking about was nintendo's own internal development, like EAD and intelligent systems.
it's a stupid discussion, but cmon, you guys must know what I mean.
It's just so counter productive. Usually with new IP's also come new ideas. Now these ideas usually aren't that perfected but if nobody buys the game then they won't green light the sequel that might perfect these ideas. Yet alone put more money towards making new IP's. Nintendo's new IP's haven't been bad at all either.
Well Intelligent Systems just made Pushmo and Crashmo. From EAD we have seen stuff like Nintendo Land and even AR Games (okay the latter two are streching a bit).
InsaneZero
Member
Nintendo needs a diverse range of active game properties that appeal to a wide variety of demographics.
Whether those include new IP or not is irrelevant.
Whether those include new IP or not is irrelevant.
michaeltraps
Member
This is what Nintendo should have been doing throughout the money-printing days of the Wii and DS. They had extra cash to throw around and I feel like it was money squandered in R&D for this gamepad concept that no one seems to know how to use.
yankeeforever2
Member
Nintendo has way too many ip's which is there problem.
Look at starfox and fzero for example, both didn't even exist on the Wii and these two were has very popular games on the N64 and gamecube(starfox games sucked on the gamecube but they still sold well enough). If they make new very popular ip's they would have to retire old franchises which fans will hate them for.
Interceptor
Banned
So what do you think is this "controlling share" and when did this happen?
catstronaut
Member
Man, Nintendo can do no right on NeoGAF.
Nintendo does something right -> god, why didn't you do this earlier Nintendo?
Nintendo plans to release a game in an unpopular franchise -> Nintendo, Pikmin isn't going to sell consoles Nintendo
Nintendo plans to release games in popular franchises -> Why aren't you giving me F-Zero Nintendo? You just keep releasing the same crap!
With the way third parties view Nintendo, it's up to them and them alone to drive their systems. And even though it's taken the 3DS and WiiU a long time to get on their feet, the 3DS did so amazingly, and it looks like the WiiU is about to follow with a great roster of first-party games. Nintendo increasing their staff means that we'll see an increase in their established IP releases, but also an increase in franchises that they can't often focus on and brand new IPs altogether. Sounds like exactly what they need to do, tbh.
Nintendo does something right -> god, why didn't you do this earlier Nintendo?
Nintendo plans to release a game in an unpopular franchise -> Nintendo, Pikmin isn't going to sell consoles Nintendo
Nintendo plans to release games in popular franchises -> Why aren't you giving me F-Zero Nintendo? You just keep releasing the same crap!
With the way third parties view Nintendo, it's up to them and them alone to drive their systems. And even though it's taken the 3DS and WiiU a long time to get on their feet, the 3DS did so amazingly, and it looks like the WiiU is about to follow with a great roster of first-party games. Nintendo increasing their staff means that we'll see an increase in their established IP releases, but also an increase in franchises that they can't often focus on and brand new IPs altogether. Sounds like exactly what they need to do, tbh.
crisdecuba
Member
I would love a future in which Nintendo significantly grows their internal development staff and singlehandedly continues to create affordable, innovative consoles with a strong library of games that can be played nowhere else.
As much as I like them the last entry in each of those IP's sold very disappointingly, Excite Trucks and Excitebots was a commercial failure too.
Going by these numbers from March, it's doubtful Starfox 64 3D sold 1,000,000 worldwide.
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qizah
Unconfirmed Member
Many would like to see Nintendo take a bigger risk with a new IP. A bigger budget new IP. The last one we saw I guess for the core user was Pikmin. Though, I will say that Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort were both good for their intended purposes. I don't really think the scores are something people will look at as long as it meets a certain degree of quality.
If you look at the 3DS eShop though, they made Dillon's Rolling Western + Dillon's Rolling Western: The Last Ranger, Pushmo + Crashmo and HarmoKnight. There's new stuff but it's likely not what everyone wants.
Don't forget:
Nintendo releases new franchise --> *crickets*
Heck, people were meh on Xenoblade when it was Monado: Beginning of the World, then when they relaunched it under the Xeno name everyone was hyped up just because of a screenshot of the title screen art and a piano track.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I do think Nintendo's very big misstep with the perception of "creating new IP" was in treating the Rainfall trilogy of games as cast-offs in the west. They should have both localized those games for timely release, and positioned them as primary Wii products.
The mindshare benefit could have highlighted that they do invest in such things. Though they seemed to have realized that mistake to some degree, given how much they're keeping X in focus for North America.
Half the gaming internet would burn the fuck down.
The mindshare benefit could have highlighted that they do invest in such things. Though they seemed to have realized that mistake to some degree, given how much they're keeping X in focus for North America.
Half the gaming internet would burn the fuck down.
Herb Alpert
Banned
They plan to support their consoles alone, do they?
Kinda like, well, ok, fuck third parties, let's do it ourselves. Can they do this? I mean, is it financially possible? (given their titles have far lowest budgets than the average AAA western title)
Kinda like, well, ok, fuck third parties, let's do it ourselves. Can they do this? I mean, is it financially possible? (given their titles have far lowest budgets than the average AAA western title)
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
If you combined the output for both console and portable together, Nintendo by themselves might be putting out nearly the equivalent of all big releases per year from 3rd parties on another console.
Unfortunately they're split between supporting different formats. In the abstract though, even now they can make a hell of a lot of games.
This post is so wrong.
Why should Nintendo try and create similar titles to their competitors?
Nintendo has gotten where it has today and in the past by carving out it's own share of the gaming pie.
Killzone, Resistance, Crackdown and Infamous are mediocre franchises in genres that are over saturated to say the least.
Nintendo has well over 30 I.P's under their umbrella and the only thing Nintendo have lacked is the ability to produce game's in reasonable time periods.
I would love a new Chibi Robo, F-Zero, Puzzle League, Pilotwings and Sin & Punishment.
I know though that unless Nintendo can come up with a justification other than a revival for the sake of revival none of these will ever surface.
I hope some of the young dev's in Nintendo step up and bring about change. That's the only way IMHO we'll see a shift happen.
OG_Original Gamer
Member
Nintendo and its deal with Platinum Games is a start in the right direction. Become the publisher of some third party software, they don't have to buy them. Now if what they produce is a major hit then they can consider it.
GoddyofAus
Banned
When Nintendo start recruiting internally, you know they know that the chips are really down.
Banjotanooki
Member
My resume is ready.
Porcile
Member
Nintendo don't need to outright buy Western studios but more partnerships like Next Level and Monster would be ideal. I'm sure there's plenty of developers out who'd love to have the certain security that working on Nintendo franchise brings. Why they continue to ignore development in the West is slightly baffling.
AdventureRacing
Member
They needed to be doing this like back in 2010. It's simply too late now to have any meaningful impact this gen. I mean i think this is a good thing and i look forward to the game but it's too late for this to have any impact this gen.
They're still hiring, you know. If only I had studied computer science or 3D graphics in undergrad...
They don't just own a controlling share they own it all. If you don't consider then 1st party then neither is Retro. Monolith ever help to work on Skyward Sword. The count whether you like it or not. You just refuse to count them since it does not fit your argument.
And upon further look they are credited on Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and Animal Crossing New Leaf.
And for a time line:
In short, TLDR once again they are 1st party, deal with it.
If it's what we want, it's what they need to do. They exist in order to fulfill our entretainmet desires in order to make a profit.
So basically, yes they do.
Inspectah_Deck
Member
What do you guys think about this quote from the Interview?
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/21/the-future-of-nintendo-game-development
I don´t really understand what he means with this statement.
Is "leverage the capabilities of Retro Studios further" related to the past by giving them DKC or is it related to a future project?
Read the whole paragraph for more context:Miyamoto said:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/21/the-future-of-nintendo-game-development
I don´t really understand what he means with this statement.
Is "leverage the capabilities of Retro Studios further" related to the past by giving them DKC or is it related to a future project?
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qizah
Unconfirmed Member
I think he's referring to letting Retro work on other IPs since they've shown they're capable of making high quality titles. Whether that means a new IP or existing Nintendo franchise, I don't know, but I think it's the latter.
TheGreyHulk
Member
Damnit OP, I want Wave Race now!!!
dragonflys545
Member
Get some talented western developers. They really lack in that department.
I think this video is relevant to the topic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yArvLiFHEU
"Archs Thoughts: Nintendos Weakness is Sonys Strength"
Explains pretty good why Nintendo is increasing their own development capacity right now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yArvLiFHEU
"Archs Thoughts: Nintendos Weakness is Sonys Strength"
Explains pretty good why Nintendo is increasing their own development capacity right now.
Arc Christelle
Member
I really want in this. I might have to check the Nintendo Careers website.
