Finally, something we can ALL agree on.Oh. Capcom. Please,PLEASE improve the fishing.
Finally, something we can ALL agree on.Oh. Capcom. Please,PLEASE improve the fishing.
Half a mil for MH is a huge bomb.
1 million would be fantastic.
I dont think DQ is gonna change anything tbh. Playstation 4 got bombarded in the last 6 months with high caliber japan titles and neither PS4 nor the games did to well if you consider the markets buy force.
I am not seeing how any dedicated game console or game is gonna sell well at this point, like forever.
Lol. You guys...
Safe prediction: If the Switch gets a MH game (after XX) it will be based on this game.
Bold prediction: MH:W will become the best selling MH game.
First sniff of it I got was 2013 or 2014.
you sure you;re not talking about fire emblem bro?
Considering the current state of consoles in Japan, 500k for Monster Hunter wouldn't be bad. Not good, certainly, but it wouldn't be a flop per say.Half a mil for MH is a huge bomb.
Did anyone else not see that weird fishing game during the conference? Final fantasy fishing lol. You think Capcom will try a spinoff like that?Oh. Capcom. Please,PLEASE improve the fishing.
There's no way they're expecting 5 million or even 4 million. You've got to start from the bottom. You have to crawl before you can walk. Their minimum expectation should and probably is to sell more than the localised handheld games, so 2 million in the west would be the minimum this needs to sell in order to see another entry.
That's my own assumption.
Kenzo is his father. Ryozo Tsujimoto (mispelled it Ryuzo in that post lol) is the current CEO, and is used to be one of the main producers for monster hunter, now he basically just tells people the games are great and people should play them (specifically the main series ones) lol
They can reuse assets between both versions to keep costs down. I imagine that's the plan.
Really annoying people keep saying Japan gamer didn't buy console MH.
No one knows it's true or not. The newest console one is MHTri and it sold over 1 million in JP. Sure it's not sell as well as MHP2, but Wii is not good indication regarding 3rd party game' sale potential. Wii's time-exculsived traditional PS games (e.g. tales of, warriors of) sold more on PS3 despite the port is 1 year late.
We also have MH4U for WiiU, but it's a late handheld-port and means nothing for proper console MH. Console MH never have a real chance after MH became a huge franchise in Japan and people should not say people do not want as a fact.
Capcom should really try and make monster hunter their assasins creed or mario
stories was a good step in the right direction
you sure you;re not talking about fire emblem bro?
I dunno, i find this kind of modding extremely offputting and ive noticed this before.Knock this shit off now.
Really annoying people keep saying Japan gamer didn't buy console MH.
No one knows it's true or not. The newest console one is MH3rd and it sold over 1 million in JP. Sure it's not sell as well as MHP2, but Wii is not good indication regarding 3rd party game' sale potential. Wii's time-exculsived traditional PS games (e.g. tales of, warriors of) sold more on PS3 despite the port is 1 year late.
We also have MH4U for WiiU, but it's a late handheld-port and means nothing for proper console MH. Console MH never have a real chance after MH became a huge franchise in Japan and people should not say people do not want as a fact.
Really annoying people keep saying Japan gamer didn't buy console MH.
No one knows it's true or not. The newest console one is MHTri and it sold over 1 million in JP. Sure it's not sell as well as MHP2, but Wii is not good indication regarding 3rd party game' sale potential. Wii's time-exculsived traditional PS games (e.g. tales of, warriors of) sold more on PS3 despite the port is 1 year late.
We also have MH4U for WiiU, but it's a late handheld-port and means nothing for proper console MH. Console MH never have a real chance after MH became a huge franchise in Japan and people should not say people do not want as a fact.
No way in hell is this selling 1.5 million in Japan.The Japanese expectations can't be much more than 1.5 million tops. The Western expectations are probably floating around 2-2.5 million. Should be doable. Though tbh I dunno if splitting the franchise like this is a good idea. But that's another issue entirely.
Really annoying people keep saying Japan gamer didn't buy console MH.
No one knows it's true or not. The newest console one is MHTri and it sold over 1 million in JP. Sure it's not sell as well as MHP2, but Wii is not good indication regarding 3rd party game' sale potential. Wii's time-exculsived traditional PS games (e.g. tales of, warriors of) sold more on PS3 despite the port is 1 year late.
We also have MH4U for WiiU, but it's a late handheld-port and means nothing for proper console MH. Console MH never have a real chance after MH became a huge franchise in Japan and people should not say people do not want as a fact.
Really annoying people keep saying Japan gamer didn't buy console MH.
No one knows it's true or not. The newest console one is MHTri and it sold over 1 million in JP. Sure it's not sell as well as MHP2, but Wii is not good indication regarding 3rd party game' sale potential. Wii's time-exculsived traditional PS games (e.g. tales of, warriors of) sold more on PS3 despite the port is 1 year late.
We also have MH4U for WiiU, but it's a late handheld-port and means nothing for proper console MH. Console MH never have a real chance after MH became a huge franchise in Japan and people should not say people do not want as a fact.
Honestly I think Capcom's game line-up is pretty solid. They've just been weird as hell with their sales projections, marketing, and releases. SFV in particular is a good game that's just been a hot mess in its release and content roll out. Then it missed its sales target by oh I dunno a million.
They're a mid-sized Japanese publisher trying to pretend they've got the clout of a huge western publisher.
Fire Emblem has never been numbered. They're just referred to with numbers in shorthand. It gets kind of confusing anyway since like half the games in the series are remakes.
We were discussing this somewhat in the Monster Hunter discord, but I am confused about the trailer reveal having some focus on stealth. I get that the trailer shows a lot of the stealth to showcase how the mechanics work, but assuming the gameplay is pretty much the same as before what would be the point of the stealth then?
When the hunter was hiding in the tall bushes against those 3 small monsters all I could think of was "they are not a threat, why isn't the hunter just going after them or ignoring them all-together?"
Is it cause this is meant to represent early-game and the hunter has a low damage weapon? That wouldn't still be an issue since small-monster don't realyl do significant damage. Even if they did, would this be something akin to gathering, where it's only one early game, and then there isn't really a need for it to be geared?
Would they alert the bigger monster? That makes more sense, but then again, fighting the big monster is the entire point, so I don't see the immediate negative here, unless the point is that they could attract multiple large monsters, but if the areas are still technically segmented with just more seamless transitions then its something that ultimately wouldn't it be too much an issue to deal with, unless that got changed to.
Is the stealth supposed to give you some down time? If doesn't make sense if areas are still fragmented (unless we are supposed to expect a large monster in every area) and if they are not, unless something changed with how potion and sharpening animations work, I don't see why one would need stealth to use those, there's most monsters easily give you plenty of free time to use those in the middle of combat, if you keep your distance from them.
The most it'd make sense to for the stealth would be that attacking a monster while not spotted would give a damage bonus, similar to how attacking sleeping monsters work. Either that, or the hunter is a lot more fragile overall and can't take hits, but I doubt that.
While also costing significant more to develop as well. That's worth noting.wii also had a higher userbase than ps4. also you are explaining why this is considered a spinoff by some. the sales potential in japan is limited. if it sells 1 million it would be an astounding success and thats still short at least a million of the sales potential on 3DS
Really annoying people keep saying Japan gamer didn't buy console MH.
No one knows it's true or not. The newest console one is MHTri and it sold over 1 million in JP. Sure it's not sell as well as MHP2, but Wii is not good indication regarding 3rd party game' sale potential. Wii's time-exculsived traditional PS games (e.g. tales of, warriors of) sold more on PS3 despite the port is 1 year late.
We also have MH4U for WiiU, but it's a late handheld-port and means nothing for proper console MH. Console MH never have a real chance after MH became a huge franchise in Japan and people should not say people do not want as a fact.
In MH you usually avoid fighting small trash, since time and the sharpness of your weapon is needed for the main target, so having stealth to avoid them could be the gameplay mechanic they are going for. In old MH you could just out-run them / avoid them and be done, but since there are no more fragmented areas, I guess monster are going to be more persistent now, so you have to use that game mechanics or others like the hook to avoid having all the small monsters aggroing you.
No way in hell is this selling 1.5 million in Japan.
There actually is. You should PM themI dunno, i find this kind of modding extremely offputting and ive noticed this before.
Do you really not see the difference in his posts and mine?
So many people bringing up the switch in this thread derailing it get no reactions but saying something less than rosy about it gets you instabanned most of the time.
Even in the thread about their voice chat solution, everyone but the ones defending it were banned regardless of whether they were trolling or legit disappointed.
What makes this hilarious is that i actually own a switch and love it and the reason of that temp ban was that i was being a console warrior by calling their solution stupid and objective people defending it.
And if i deserve another ban for this post, then i guess its better off that way. Not like theres better ways to bring up being unfairly modded.
i dont think mainline or not matters that much. portable 1,2 and 3 outsold regular 1,2 and tri. X which also is not a mainline title also did pretty well. it doesnt surprise me that capcom top man will promote this, as monster hunter is a very important game for capcom. if this fails capcom has nothing to rely on at the moment and going to Ps4/XboxOne is very risky indeed.
that being said there is a reason why the portable games ultimately outsold the console ones and turned into the mainline games. monster hunter is a multiplayer game at its core. you can go solo hunting and its fun and challenging in its own right but hunting together was always the main draw of this game.
the portable games have a big advantage over the console games in that aspect due to local multiplayer. in japan you can regularly see a group of 2-4 people in public spaces playing MH on their 3DSes (or PSPs in the past). with the consoles thats going to be online mainly and then the latency problem kicks in which can be really annoying in a game like MH where one missed hit or one missed dodge is really critical (which i believe is also the reason why frontier never took of)
so yeah i think this game will do well in japan but i dont see it selling anywhere near 2-4 million in japan. we will see if western sales will make up for it. i also do think that capcom will make a next game on 3DS and maybe a later port on switch. they need to be ultra conservative because this one is a huge risk.
personally i gotta say i am much more interested at the moment than i was a few hours ago
You think more or less? Because I think less but Capcom sets shitty expectations for MH games.
You think more or less? Because I think less but Capcom sets shitty expectations for MH games.
Which gets locked out once youre modded.There actually is. You should PM them
All this talk of Japan but the game is tailored for the west so why isn't there more discussion for that? I feel it coul do 3-4 million when all is said and done.
I don't really see much complaining from Switch owners. Do we honestly believe that no other MH games are coming to the Switch?
The same rumour that just got validated tonight says that the traditional entry into the series is coming to the Switch. It's a win-win for all involved, and we now have HD assets that can be used for that particular Switch version. I'm excited!
I dunno, i find this kind of modding extremely offputting and ive noticed this before.
Do you really not see the difference in his posts and mine?
So many people bringing up the switch in this thread derailing it get no reactions but saying something less than rosy about it gets you instabanned most of the time.
Even in the thread about their voice chat solution, everyone but the ones defending it were banned regardless of whether they were trolling or legit disappointed.
What makes this hilarious is that i actually own a switch and love it and the reason of that temp ban was that i was being a console warrior by calling their solution stupid and objective people defending it.
And if i deserve another ban for this post, then i guess its better off that way. Not like theres better ways to bring up being unfairly modded.
I have a lot of nervous feelings about this. I love my PS4 and my Switch, but I'd really, really rather play Monster Hunter in the traditional sense and on my Switch. Playing it on the couch for 400 hours just seems miserable.
Also, when they called Monster Hunter a "cult" series I cringed. Hard.
Yeah it looks really good. I was never interested in the handheld series but this one I could give a shot. I think it could sell really well and actually give the more hardcore versions a boost in sales too.All this talk of Japan but the game is tailored for the west so why isn't there more discussion for that? I feel it coul do 3-4 million when all is said and done.
way way way less.
This game basically needs to do as well as Zelda games do.
Japan doesn't even get to million sellers that often, let alone 1.5. This does 600k tops. Hell, 500k would probably be a success for it in this market.
In MH you usually avoid fighting small trash, since time and the sharpness of your weapon is needed for the main target, so having stealth to avoid them could be the gameplay mechanic they are going for. In old MH you could just out-run them / avoid them and be done, but since there are no more fragmented areas, I guess monster are going to be more persistent now, so you have to use that game mechanics or others like the hook to avoid having all the small monsters aggroing you.
All this talk of Japan but the game is tailored for the west so why isn't there more discussion for that? I feel it coul do 3-4 million when all is said and done.
Their output is far less diverse than it used to be imo
But you could still just run past them on recent monhuns and go to the area where the large monster was, and even if there were other monsters there, they would at most just hit you of an attack or healing animation.
The point that I wanted to make with that post was that there are only 2 teams working at Capcom making "traditional" MH games. The secondary, or "B" team , headed by Yasunori Ichinose, produces all of the Portable Monster hunter games (Freedom games in the west) and MH Generations/X/XX (not including MH3U/MH4U). On the other hand, the main team has produced all of the mainline games (1,2 (not released in the west), Tri, 3U, 4U) and are all directed by Kaname Fujioka, and either produced by Hironobu Takeshita or Ryozo Tsujimoto. Ryozo Tsujimoto is now the CEO of Capcom but continues to support the mainline MH titles. He's supporting MH: World right now.
I highly doubt that if MH: World is considered a big risk (moving away from Japanese audiences to western), Capcom would put a team other than their main team, who has innovated monster hunter with each installment for the past 12 years successfully, on this title. For all intents and purposes, this is the next serious installment in the series.