Apparently "Our vision..." means we're not doing what you want us to do... we clearly can't change your mind about that... we realize we have to do something... so we're going to tell you about it right now... oh hell no, it doesn't apply _now_... but it likely will... someday... get off my back now.... please?!?!
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MS confirms indie program for XB1, was a big GamesCom surprise, angry at GI for leak
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FranXico
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Even using C++ you will be confined to the VM.
Warm Machine
Member
Sorry, what is the issue? Xbox 360 was a dev kit for XNA based games. It allowed developers to have access to a sizable amount of Xbox Live features. Online play, Avatars, limited Rich Presence.
Price was changeable from $5, $3, or $1 and sales charts were normally updated daily. Patches were free.
Some XBLA games like Dishwasher and FEZ were available on XBLA and they gave them permissions for Achievements.
Delusibeta
Banned
No. This is games journalists we are talking about.
False, all WinRT apps will be in a crappy store nobody goes into.
digoutyoursoul
Member
We need more Gamescom hints damnit !
Acquiescence
Member
I glossed over the word "launch." Shadow Fall and DriveClub then.
LukasTaves
Member
Sure, you wouldn't be able to make the system expand the app VM's memory for instance, but withing the VM's resources you should have access to them all...
How do you know this? MS just said otherwise. You have inside info?
FranXico
Member
PS Minis should have been this open. Would have been much better than the PS Mobile nonsense.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
Well, another 180 confirmed*.
*Not available at launch, might be nothing more than winRT apps running on x1.
*Not available at launch, might be nothing more than winRT apps running on x1.
la flama blanca
Banned
You don't have to wait as long as Titanfall
Warm Machine
Member
There is no way this wasn't planned from the get go. The time to create the tools and infrastructure to support it is a good couple years in the making.
LastChance2Frag
Neo Member
Awesome news, bit of a shame it leaked before gamescom but still a while to plan ahead for more good news there. Great for indies and I hope lots of information will be available after gamescom so every dev knows where they stand so they can start prepping some great games for xbox one users.
BleachAndPepsi
Banned
Because the last Crackdown was so awesome?
What lying? The programs aren't ready to go yet, but that's hardly deceit. Just bad timing.
Syphon Filter
Member
Crackdown 2 was underrated and plus it was rushed.[under 1 year dev time]
He doesn't know shit, he hopes the more he says it that people will believe him.
I enjoyed it.
Another casulty of Microsoft's awful management.
Considering their (only) big IP suffered similarly bad management in its most recent mainline release, what makes you think Crackdown will return to glory?
Besides, Microsoft stated they are still looking for a team to make it, don't expect it at GamesCom.
Impeccable
Member
Lol, this statement is funny.
Hip Hop
Member
The first one was, so your point is?
Oppo
Member
Why did they deny this outright at the announcement of the system, then?
Phil Spencer has tweeted about it:
...so I guess they really are combining stores.
I uh...I don't know how well that's going to go.
statham
Member
hes racked up quite the post counts in this and the other thread.
BleachAndPepsi
Banned
The most recent one sucked dick. Kinda tamped down any excitement I might've had for a sequel.
Miles Quaritch
Member
We've known that was their plan for some time though, hardly new info.
Cool, wonder what kind of cloud resources they allot for indie devs to have for free if any.
darkressurection
Banned
I never thought they'd actually combine both stores though.
That is going to be...interesting.
DeadlyVirus
Member
Phil Spencer has tweeted about it:
Cloud for multiplayer only is a mistake? So everything just as it is now is a mistake?
Give the developer the tools and they'll make cloud for multiplayer only
Miles Quaritch
Member
Oh shit?
Dynamic pricing is a must. Good to see it mentioned.
TheRealTalker
Banned
Oh shit?
just an off-topic question... how do you post tweets like that (with the image and all)
That's crazy.
To irritate GAF.
R3TRODYCE
Member
Yeah, I just saw that.
No, he says that it's benifical for MP and SP. It's in the developers hands on how they want to use it.
Same way you'd post any image.
Apps and games are defined by their support. Apps will be in one area, games merged into Xbox marketplace.
Top tier titles would have greatest visibility mixed with value content
No separation of indie, arcade and games on demand
Now its games on demand with largest visibility and other games as the minor.
Biggest question that remains is how good will discoverability be? I found XBLA to be pretty great, but that's mainly because there was less games - sorting by release date might not work out all that well this time around. Like... How will XBLA/indie demos be handled now?
statham
Member
I expect Fable MMO (not full MMO, but similar to Destiny) as the new big MS game announcement. Perhaps a RARE game announcement. I also expect more Kinect games this time as we haven't got many for such a system that has Kinect with every system.
Basically
MS
1 Big Kinect game
Fable MMO
RARE game (they have another team I think?)
Indie announcement, with Indie games (its been leaked)
SEGAvangelist
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Cboat fail?
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