Topher
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I could see criticism that some of the games follow Ubisoft's template, but saying they look like the games are made from the same creative teams? No....I just don't see that at all.
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I could see criticism that some of the games follow Ubisoft's template, but saying they look like the games are made from the same creative teams? No....I just don't see that at all.
nightmare-slain
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Tomeru
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I know, I was jokingly telling others to stop making fun of him.
Red5
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For me with the PS4 and PS5, most of Sony's first party titles are big cinematic experiences with set pieces and a bit of hand holding narratives. They're great games but they never give me the urge to replay them when I'm done with them.
I prefer games with more immersion and interactivity like Deus Ex, Prey or Thief, cRPG's and RTS games too.
I prefer games with more immersion and interactivity like Deus Ex, Prey or Thief, cRPG's and RTS games too.
nightmare-slain
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I think the reaction in here was over the top so I agree. OP made a fair point but could've gone about it better. Good luck with that though... many people don't take kindly to criticism.
Topher
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I'd say lack of replay value is a legit criticism for many of the games. That's why I always either buy physical (to resell) or rent the games.
Kenneth Haight
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Kenneth Haight
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Roberts
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I don’t necessarily mean that as a bad thing, just it gives every game a certain familiarity. For the sake of comparison, let’s look at Marvel films or the stuff they make for Netflix. Different teams make them and stories can frel wildly different but other than some occasional oddity, they use more or less the same LUTs before color grading, similar lighting techniques, similar approach to crafting fight scenes and one point you are starting to see a familiar pattern. You can call it a texture or an identity. And speaking of that, I’m actually kind of glad that Sony is branching out with their move towards GAAS.
DeepEnigma
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GT7 has fantastic moment to moment racing gameplay.
MLB The Show is arguably the best baseball sim gameplay ever.
MLB The Show is arguably the best baseball sim gameplay ever.
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Tomeru
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Actually his point was trash, but it is what it is. Like I said, he was upset.
Since I purchased my PS5 last August, I haven't really played it much, compared to my Series X, Switch, or even my PS3. Here is the full list of games that I've beaten since I bought it:
Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection (PS4)
Uncharted 4: A Thief's End (PS4)
Uncharted: Lost Legacy (PS5)
Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered (PS5)
Ghost of Tsushima: Director's Cut (PS5)
God of War (2018) (PS4)
Jak & Daxter: The Precursor Legacy (PS4)
Guacamelee! Super Turbo Championship Edition (PS4)
Guacamelee! 2 (PS4)
Shadow of the Colossus (PS4 Remake)
And I haven't really had much interest in playing through anything else yet. I've tried Horizon: Zero Dawn multiple times, but can't get into it. I have basically 1% interest in Death Stranding, which is pretty much only because it's Kojima and Snake Eater is probably in my Top 3. I will eventually give Ragnarok a shot, but I thought the first was incredibly overrated. I'll play Miles Morales this December and will eventually get around to A Rift Apart. I have Sackboy in the disc drive, but it's not a game that I have much desire to get back to, despite loving both Super Mario 3D Land and Super Mario 3D World.
Overall, I prefer to play my third-party games on my Series X and occasionally consider selling my PS5. I think Sony's playbook since the start of the PS4 has been too much focus on pretty simple gameplay to appeal to the masses, which makes their games feel kinda samey. Even the menus all feel very samey.
I think they're taking an even worse direction now, with all of this investment into free-to-play multiplayer stuff.
Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection (PS4)
Uncharted 4: A Thief's End (PS4)
Uncharted: Lost Legacy (PS5)
Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered (PS5)
Ghost of Tsushima: Director's Cut (PS5)
God of War (2018) (PS4)
Jak & Daxter: The Precursor Legacy (PS4)
Guacamelee! Super Turbo Championship Edition (PS4)
Guacamelee! 2 (PS4)
Shadow of the Colossus (PS4 Remake)
And I haven't really had much interest in playing through anything else yet. I've tried Horizon: Zero Dawn multiple times, but can't get into it. I have basically 1% interest in Death Stranding, which is pretty much only because it's Kojima and Snake Eater is probably in my Top 3. I will eventually give Ragnarok a shot, but I thought the first was incredibly overrated. I'll play Miles Morales this December and will eventually get around to A Rift Apart. I have Sackboy in the disc drive, but it's not a game that I have much desire to get back to, despite loving both Super Mario 3D Land and Super Mario 3D World.
Overall, I prefer to play my third-party games on my Series X and occasionally consider selling my PS5. I think Sony's playbook since the start of the PS4 has been too much focus on pretty simple gameplay to appeal to the masses, which makes their games feel kinda samey. Even the menus all feel very samey.
I think they're taking an even worse direction now, with all of this investment into free-to-play multiplayer stuff.
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Astro's Playroom was fantastic, though I played through it at launch on a friend's PS5. Perfect pack-in game.
SenkiDala
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I understand that point of view but you say it like it was an absolute truth... It is a matter of taste.Ok so here's the thing, PlayStation used to be entertaining, I would say their final days of being entertaining ended after God Of War 3. Since The Last of Us every game is a melodramatic set piece with average gameplay. I was playing Infamous Second Son and Spider Man the other day, how can you make Super Heroes games boring? You're telling me those games are supposed to be for adults?. I was playing Metroid Prime Remastered utilizing my brain and thinking what to do, then I played Returnal (a modern space game) with zero complexity and thinking why tf am I wasting my time with this?. You know you can expect the same shit from TLOU3 just with better graphics and an even more woke story, but the gameplay will be the same shit from 2013. If I'm wrong mention one modern playstation game with complex gameplay that is not Demon Souls or Bloodborne. I'll wait.
Personally when I play a game I don't always want it to be like a From game, I wanna chill I wanna have a cool moment, live a fun adventure. The games you're talking about are obviously mainstream. All AAA needs to be mainstream, when games costs 300mil+ to make, you won't get your money back if you make an underground cryptic game with a complex game mechanics. That is even why the success of From games are so singular.
I like Spider-Man games, I wouldn't play that all year and I need to change as my mood changes, but I like diversity.
DrFigs
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you are out of your mind. part 2 has some of the finest third person shooter gameplay ever.
German Hops
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Yeah, that's because the PlayStation is trash.
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nightmare-slain
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dont be fuckin with G-Hopz
DonkeyPunchJr
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It’s definitely my least played. I bought one in 2021 because I lucked into it when it popped up on Sony’s store.
I don’t really care for Sony’s big AAA blockbuster story-driven stuff + PC is my preferred platform anyway. Only reason I’ve held on to PS5 is for Gran Turismo + Final Fantasy XVI (which kinda sucked IMO) + 4K blu rays.
nial
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Why do people say this? I'm not sure if it's lack of proper research or something else...
Introducing Team Asobi, creators of the Astro Bot series
Read a note from the team behind PS5 charmer Astro’s Playroom
blog.playstation.com
Hypereides
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Why do people say this? I'm not sure if it's lack of proper research or something else...
Introducing Team Asobi, creators of the Astro Bot series
Read a note from the team behind PS5 charmer Astro’s Playroom
I'm fully aware of Astrobot. Let me expand. I'd claim that Astrobot, while charming and innovative, is not as "crazy" or "out there" as something like Ape escape. The elevator pitch for Astrobot is relatively more straight forward than a game about chasing loose monkeys. Furthermore, something like Mr. Mosquito, Okage, Dark cloud or Vib Ribbon (like your avatar) would very likely not get greenlit by current Sony in this day and age.
FYI, I can assure you its not "something else". I practically only game on PS consoles.
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nial
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Alright, your opinion is pretty reasonable then, but at the end of the day, most of these companies won't be willing to fund ANY type of game unless they feel it's financially worthwhile. I mentioned this in another thread, but the reason there isn't another Vibri game, for example, has less to do with the crazy nature of the series and more to do with the fact that Vib-Ripple, the Japan-exclusive sequel on PS2, in addition to not being well received, was a huge flop in the region, killing any chance of a third entry for the foreseeable future.
But I don't think SIE is adverse to these types of games, let alone if they see a potential popular concept. And really, this criticism applies to most, if not all of the big Japanese publishers nowadays, to be honest. Nintendo used to be the king of crazy experiments in the DS/Wii era and now look at their current output.
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