It's dead because it takes a long time to connect, still. BTB has always been one of, if not THE most highly populated playlist in Halo matchmaking prior to MCC.
Very true. Without stats, a long time to connect != a comparatively low population.
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It's dead because it takes a long time to connect, still. BTB has always been one of, if not THE most highly populated playlist in Halo matchmaking prior to MCC.
Very true. Without stats, a long time to connect != a comparatively low population.
Welfare
Member
Well, for all we know, it still is the most populated playlist, but 343 won't dare show meaningful statistics again, lest we want another halocharts.com showing 343 that they "fucked up".
Gravemind IV
Member
Indeed, still have no idea what the thought process was behind the SPNKR being changed.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Lol no. Just no...
This was ONLY the case in Halo 4 because 95% of the garbage maps in Halo 4 were made for BTB. Even then, there were far more (of the woefully small number of total) players in smaller team games.
Slayer playlists in previous games always had massively higher populations than BTB playlists (BTB couldn't even support ranked in Halo 2/Halo 3) and when you take all playlists into account the 4v4 playlists absolutely dwarfed 8v8 playlists...
It needed to look more familiar to the "modern combat gamer".
tattooed_dwarf
Member
No it wasn't, it offered a lot for game. Made battlefield more vibrant, these grunts trying to survive while pilot, who are like special forces, zip around and stomp around in titans. Basically made it feel more like war is on than just basic arena sports "battle". And also farming those were important to get titan faster.
NippleViking
Banned
That isn't really true. BTB was always the most populated game-type in 3, Reach and 4. Ranked Slayer population in these games was typically at most 60% of BTB numbers.
The only way in which lower-player-count playlists "dwarfed" 8v8 is if you took the combined numbers of all playlists into account (6v6, Free-for-all, 4v4, 2v2 etc.), which shouldn't be surprising, as it's obvious.
BuggeryBugz
Member
How does it look like it belongs in call of duty? And please design a rocket launcher for us all to see. Fair enough you don't like it but don't be ridiculous.
it is
I agree. They also made Titanfall fast paced - you had to go out there and kill enemy pilots to prevent them from murdering your own bots, you had to harass enemy Titans to stop them from rolfstomping your bots and charging their core, you had to traverse around the map and massacre enemy bots to get titanfall faster. Pilot Hunter(no score on bots) is a much slower mode than Attrition, and Pilot Skirmish(no bots & Titans) is almost unplayable to me. Purpose of bots was to make game fun/easier for noobs - but what they did is quite the opposite -killing bots is just not fun, and they made camping infeasible.
I don't think I really said zooming decreases spread, only that zoom has always had accuracy bonuses.
samurai1226
Member
What if the new gamemode is something like Planetside?
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
Battlefront has a Air Superiority kind of mode. Its the same shit, just with another background. I dont get the obsession for space battles. At the end it wont matter, Battlefront will sell anyway, even the complainers will buy it.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
No.
It.
Was.
Not.
Only exception being Halo 4 because as I stated earlier, 95% of the maps in the game were BTB maps.
Dreadnought
Member
Bro BTB has always been an extremely popular playlist.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Did I say it was unpopular?
No, I didn't. I didn't even imply it ffs.
To claim it's always been the most populated playlist is 100% false. Until Halo 4 it always played second fiddle to Team Slayer and by a large margin. Hell, right now on Reach TS has twice the players as BTB...
samurai1226
Member
So will weapons be customizable?
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
So will weapons be customizable?
Weapon Cutomization would fit if they are aiming for a Battlefield kind of mode.
PS: Ive sent you a PM
DiiGoliath
Banned
Oh shit, prepare for loadouts comeback.
My guess is that it will be like this:
Arena MP: No loadouts, equal starts, no weapon customization, weapons on the maps.
Modes: Breakout, Slayer (Slayer variants), Strongholds, Infection, ...?
Big BTB MP: Loadouts (maybe), everyone starts with different weapons or, at least, everyone will be able to customize weapons (different ads, etc) but equal starts. Vehicles and weapons on the maps
Modes: BTB, Conquest-like mode, ...?
I hope they include Juggernaut and Oddball.
My guess is that it will be like this:
Arena MP: No loadouts, equal starts, no weapon customization, weapons on the maps.
Modes: Breakout, Slayer (Slayer variants), Strongholds, Infection, ...?
Big BTB MP: Loadouts (maybe), everyone starts with different weapons or, at least, everyone will be able to customize weapons (different ads, etc) but equal starts. Vehicles and weapons on the maps
Modes: BTB, Conquest-like mode, ...?
I hope they include Juggernaut and Oddball.
NippleViking
Banned
Lol. Utter crap. BTB was always the no.1 most populated playlist in Reach during its prime, and in 3 it was only ever supplanted by double-exp weekends.
Same
As someone who has been pushed away from Halo, initially following Halo 4 and the MCC debacle, the campaign sounds very exciting and genuinely different to past Halo games. However my biggest doubts still remain about the multiplayer: it's all well and good focusing on competitive play with the arena but if there are others modes with loadouts and ordnance that continue to introduce randomness into the game, there's no chance of me coming back whatever this new mode is.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Why is everyone talking about the rocket launcher? Talk about the pistol! It should be shiny and silver.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
I played BTB nearly every night. It was never more populated then TS in Reach...
Gravemind IV
Member
If they are gonna include loadouts in the larger modes, please do not include the ability to start with the plasma pistol and/or plasma grenades. Fine with people picking their fancy across the various rifles etc, but damn.. vehicles felt like certain death traps at times.
So chrome
I do miss this. Playing through Halo 1 on MCC recently. And when I switch to Classic graphics I think "Man, the pistol looks way better in classic mode!" That shine.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
It's like holding a terminator in your hands.
YES THANK YOU. Someone who understands! (btw everything looks better than the CE anniversary)
I want to lick the shiny
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Im in frickin love with the MCC right now. Working so well online. So much fun.
I really really hope there's no bots in this new game type. That's not Halo at all and would put me off the new gametype instantly.
For what its worth I dont think it will be. I can however definitely imagine a large Battlefield Conquest style gametype with ground and air vehicles. And I think it would be awesome!
For what its worth I dont think it will be. I can however definitely imagine a large Battlefield Conquest style gametype with ground and air vehicles. And I think it would be awesome!
Dead? We have no population counters. I still play BTB daily easily. I don't know about other locations but US East is still easy.
Dee Dah Dave
Member
Is this game gonna have choice of data centres like Titanfall?
I really don't want to have to connect to America and other 3rd world countries with stone age internet if I can help it
I really don't want to have to connect to America and other 3rd world countries with stone age internet if I can help it
Is this game gonna have choice of data centres like Titanfall?
I really don't want to have to connect to America and other 3rd world countries with stone age internet if I can help it
yes
DiiGoliath
Banned
SPRINKLES hypes the hyped.
wesleyshark
Banned
BTB has always been one of the biggest draws in Halo for MP. Swat is my favorite game type but BTB is a close second, easily. I love the chaos.
pantsonhead
Member
That image is still fucking killing me, you did the Lord's work with that shit.
US west was pretty quick too, I think myself and two friends found a match in a minute, maybe minute and a half?
If I remember rightly, and I think I do, I said "one of, if not the most popular" in response to someone saying BTB isn't worth any effort.
So the clear failure to read fully what was written, and the patronising "lol no" did nothing other than to make me believe your opinion was worth little of my consideration.
DiiGoliath
Banned
It's a new alien race. It will be featured on Halo 6.
ThatsMytrunks
Member
So will weapons be customizable?
Pretty sure that's all just a commissioned artist's mistakes highlighted against the models.
Leyasu
Banned
So will weapons be customizable?
Something has got to pay for those free map packs!!
Now show me where I can get Deadeye armour.
pantsonhead
Member
Leyasu
Banned
It's coming...
I know that microtransactions is a dirty word, but if that is the trade off for free maps, then I'm for it. Especially if they keep them unlockable through normal playing like halo 4.
Master assassin medal for venator armour or pay a few £$...! Gow3 also let you unlock or buy weapon skins. Combine the two, its controversial I know. But not the end of the world.
RSB
Banned
It would be awesome to have the M6D in Halo 5 as a legendary weapon.
Speaking of which, I hope they change the ADS animation for the pistol. IDK why, but it felt super weird in the beta.
pantsonhead
Member
Silliness aside, you're right. I'd prefer it if all the additional content was free and the game caused kittens and lollipops to fly out my screen, but none of those can happen. If the trade off is free maps, I'll happily take it.
You beautiful bastards are killing me.