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[AbandonedTrolley]

If Microsoft made T10 truly go up against PD in terms of raw racing campaign, we'd actually have trailers that are similar to each other.

Whoever made the FM7 trailer seemed really confused on what audience they should cater it towards.

It's not even the editing of the trailers though, PD just have that nailed lighting look. F7 looks great and I love the details like the sand on the track, I just feel that PD always squeeze more from a machine than should be possible, a bit like Naughty Dog as well.

 

[icecold1983]

The gt sport e3 trailer had no gameplay. So we still have to use the beta as our point of comparison until we get something newer

Looked great tho. Pretty much every racing game coming is well ahead of pcars 2. Even the crew 2.

 

[Christocolus]

I can't wait until we see more gameplay from other tracks.

Damn..

 

[Space_nut]

Visually, this Dubai track has some good sections.

My goodness

 

[Fredrik]

Cross-post from the trailer thread, but VVV confirmed in comments on one of their YouTube vids that the dash-cam will be in the full release, it's not just for the show floor build:

That's awesome! I always drive with the hood cam because I hate seeing a steering wheel in front of my steering wheel. This will be fantastic!

 

[MilkyJoe]

Gamesyde is up, the scenery and lighting on this desert course is stuning

http://gamersyde.com/hqstream_forza_motorsport_7_e3_ms_showcase_gameplay_1-40208_en.html


This one

http://gamersyde.com/hqstream_forza_motorsport_7_e3_ms_showcase_gameplay_2-40209_en.html

Forward to 2:19 - Look at that water beading on the window,

 

[Noobcraft]

Link to some gamersyde footage of Forza 7 from blim in the other thread. He mentioned that the footage was captured in HDR and had to be converted to a standard range, so some of the coloring may be slightly off, but more representative than IGN's footage.
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_e3_forza_7_gameplay-19247_en.html

 

[cooldawn]

he already confirmed that a year ago.

Yeah but was GT5 massively delayed to add full dynamics? I though it wasn't part of the plan but everyone pushed for it so they decided to do it. I guess the 'Fall 2017' date puts it to bed though anyway.

Anyways, as usual Gran Turismo Sport is looking stunning. The whole trailer gave an 'event' vibe to it, like a celebration of racing. Perfectly in-line with it's new sporting focus.

Forza Motorsport 7 also looks good but as a game built from the ground up for PC it still doesn't have a lighting solution or have that organic warm sense of place like GT's always had but it is sharp with high-detail textures. Resolution bump doing it's work. No full dynamics though and it's even worse if you're a fan of Gran Turismo!

What the hell has happened? A platform with the weaker console has gone from full dynamics last generation to none at all this generation while the other, with the most powerful console in the world and a game made for PC, still hasn't got full-dynamics.

This is so weak across the board.

 

[Terbinator]

Link to some gamersyde footage of Forza 7 from blim in the other thread. He mentioned that the footage was captured in HDR and had to be converted to a standard range, so some of the coloring may be slightly off, but more representative than IGN's footage.
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_e3_forza_7_gameplay-19247_en.html

I'm on my work computer which is a RDS and craps out of video. Do they have any stills?

 

[velociraptor]

The environments in Forza 7 look spectacular. The lighting doesn't look realistic but it looks nice. This is probably the first time where I'm actually impressed with how Forza looks. It looks like the best looking racing title (based on gameplay videos).

 

[Sebmugi]

Too much effect kills effect

 

[JackAubrey]

I really like that effect.

But in FM6 you can turn it off, I expect 7 is no different.

 

[soundscream]

Since we have gameplay for both, we shouldn't be using replay footage to compare and contrast.

 

[Sebmugi]

I really like that effect.

But in FM6 you can turn it off, I expect 7 is no different.

The 2D tablecloths that cross the cars clearly visible in 4K, kills the immersion :/
But overall apart from the textures outside the road that are not really next gen,As in GT sport the set is pleasing to the eye ^^

 

[blastprocessor]

Watching the VVV footage I've never seen someone work so hard to control the car in any forza or gran turismo game

Looks like he was drunk driving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oqPeD5ERIA

 

[JackAubrey]

The 2D tablecloths that cross the cars clearly visible in 4K, kills the immersion :/
But overall apart from the textures outside the road that are not really next gen,As in GT sport the set is pleasing to the eye ^^

Apologies I thought we were talking about cockpit camera motion.

 

[JackAubrey]

Looks like he was drunk driving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oqPeD5ERIA

VVV video drinking game, take one drink for every excuse in the voiceover about the driving.

 

[Mascot]

What the hell has happened? A platform with the weaker console has gone from full dynamics last generation to none at all this generation while the other, with the most powerful console in the world and a game made for PC, still hasn't got full-dynamics.

This is so weak across the board.

Not across the board, unless you have tunnel vision. pCARS 2 is pushing the envelope again on dynamics, adding seasonal changes and Live Track 3.0 to a full 24hr time cycle and variable weather.

 

[rashbeep]

First time in a while I'm impressed with a mainline Forza game's graphics. Looks fantastic.

 

[Sebmugi]

inception effect look nice in crew ²

 

[Diablohead]

Press conference faking and all you can tell the Forza 7 conference gameplay is just the AI driving the cars, they pump the breaks all over the place, an AI defect that has never changed since forza 1.

 

[Sini]

Press conference faking and all you can tell the Forza 7 conference gameplay is just the AI driving the cars, they pump the breaks all over the place, an AI defect that has never changed since forza 1.

Does this make visuals better or worse?

 

[Risk Breaker]

Compression aside, there seems to be a weird difference in polish considering both games are coming out at roughly the same time. Lack of foliage/environment elements, bugs in visual effects...

The vibrations on some aero pieces are pretty cool though.

 

[Sebmugi]

miam shaders in F1 2017 <3 I would dream of having the same shaders on the bodywork in GT sport .. but it is not for right now, looks like ps5 :/

 

[l2ounD]

I think this track is giving DragonTrail a run for its money on who can make the best rocksides

 

[LukasTaves]

Cross-post from the trailer thread, but VVV confirmed in comments on one of their YouTube vids that the dash-cam will be in the full release, it's not just for the show floor build:

Does the final game supports that chair as well, or that's specific on the PC build?

 

[Sebmugi]

I think this track is giving DragonTrail a run for its money on who can make the best rocksides

wow oO

Lol I'm not sure that in a modern porsche, wipers glasses and the automatic gearbox pdk wriggles like that without stopping XD

 

[Terbinator]

wow oO

Lol I'm not sure that in a modern porsche, wipers glasses and the automatic gearbox pdk wriggles like that without stopping XD

Having never driven a car in anger I can't possibly comment, but I find the effect extremely irritating.

Somewhat ironic they've gone for this effect, given how much stick the rattling Zonda pump/air filter was getting in PCards (or was it DC?) many moons ago.

 

[Sebmugi]

its a Porsche Cayman GT4 on Nürb The camera wriggle but not the rest.. And it is a handle of manual box not a pdk ..

 

[SalientChief]

its a Porsche Cayman GT4 on Nürb The camera wriggle but not the rest.. And it is a handle of manual box not a pdk ..

I think they need to dial this back a bit. If my gear stick and outside mirror rattled that much at 100mph I'd want my money back from Porche. Lol. Maybe limit it to when you hit the curb hard or something. Camera bob mimicking your head movement with a helmet would be better I think.

 

[drugstore_cowboy]

I like the little animations but they should be used sparingly. Save them for older cars or whatnot.

 

[l2ounD]

I like the little animations but they should be used sparingly. Save them for older cars or whatnot.

The wires and hoses are really cool along with the mesh net, wipers and the shifter look a bit too extreme

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

(Note: Keikaku means plan).

 

[Sebmugi]

The wires and hoses are really cool along with the mesh net, wipers and the shifter look a bit too extreme

Yes it is an cool effect but to use sparingly otherwise it gives the impression that the car is not assembled well, and that in case of accident )

 

[KOHIPEET]

GTS night and fog weather.

Holy fuck this looks incredible!

 

[Noobcraft]

The wires and hoses are really cool along with the mesh net, wipers and the shifter look a bit too extreme

I've never witnessed the wipers on any of my cars rattle like that, but the shifter definitely has. In my Fiat 500 sport, hitting 78 MPH was very loud and stuff started to rattle. Increasing or decreasing the speed fixed it, but the car resonated at 78 MPH for some reason. My focus drops the wipers slightly beneath the hood when they're turned off to avoid them rattling in the wind.

 

[Yiazmat]

I think this track is giving DragonTrail a run for its money on who can make the best rocksides

Surely that's just a streaming problem... right?

 

[drotahorror]

inception effect look nice in crew ²

Wait, so this wasn't just for the trailer? The actual game incorporates this effect during gameplay?

 

[M52B28]

Yes it is an cool effect but to use sparingly otherwise it gives the impression that the car is not assembled well, and that in case of accident )

But this GIF is accurate to what a Citroen would do if involved in a minor accident haha

 

[sems4arsenal]

Those GTSport super-premiums are insane.

 

[AndyD]

Wait, so this wasn't just for the trailer? The actual game incorporates this effect during gameplay?

It's actually a really cool effect. It's where I thought Trackmania would go since lateral and vertical surfaces are so integral to it.

 

[Dictator93]

Forza Motorsport 7 also looks good but as a game built from the ground up for PC it still doesn't have a lighting solution or have that organic warm sense of place like GT's always had but it is sharp with high-detail textures. Resolution bump doing it's work. No full dynamics though and it's even worse if you're a fan of Gran Turismo!

Sterile, inorganic, cold, angular, place-less PC graphics.

 

[RootCause]

inception effect look nice in crew ²

No lie, I got a bit dizzy.

 

[KORNdoggy]

Too much effect kills effect

Honestly this looks like they didn't quite place the sand sprites flush with the ground. Like when you clip through some floating flowers or rocks in skyrim that havn't aligned properly with the terrain. I'm guessing it's a bug?

 

[icecold1983]

Sterile, inorganic, cold, angular, place-less PC graphics.

Lol. I know what hes trying to say but yeah

 

[a916]

Wait, so this wasn't just for the trailer? The actual game incorporates this effect during gameplay?

Oh my god, I thought this was trailer only!

 

[TheAdmiester]

Honestly this looks like they didn't quite place the sand sprites flush with the ground. Like when you clip through some floating flowers or rocks in skyrim that havn't aligned properly with the terrain. I'm guessing it's a bug?

It's not really noticeable in the gif, but I'm 99% sure it's meant to be like the blowing sand they added in Laguna Seca. It's meant to be blowing both across the ground and slightly under it, I don't think it being raised above the track is a mistake.

 

[Noobcraft]

Honestly this looks like they didn't quite place the sand sprites flush with the ground. Like when you clip through some floating flowers or rocks in skyrim that havn't aligned properly with the terrain. I'm guessing it's a bug?

I think it's intended to be blowing sand. FH3 has blowing snow that looks similar.

 

[Sebmugi]

Wait, so this wasn't just for the trailer? The actual game incorporates this effect during gameplay?

Yes it is indeed an "ingame" effect that apparently serves during the transition between certain types of vehicles / machines Graphically "the crew 2" gives envy .. it reminds me a bit "watch dogs 2"

https://youtu.be/25P4VcqQZMw?t=87

 

[Sebmugi]

Honestly this looks like they didn't quite place the sand sprites flush with the ground. Like when you clip through some floating flowers or rocks in skyrim that havn't aligned properly with the terrain. I'm guessing it's a bug?

As often in the "forza" and in the image of the vibrations of the furniture of the car etc. the effects are too pronounce to have the effect expected on immersion ..
I really feel like they want to do too much to make us wow but the reverse happens ..