timetokill
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It's obvious sarcasm
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No Man's Sky - Early Impressions/Reviews-in-progress Thread
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It's obvious sarcasm
The problem is that I know that this will be $30-$40 by November holiday sales, so even though I'm really pumped and tempted to buy now, I'm going to wait to get it sognificantly cheaper, same with the last guardian which I've been waiting for since 8th grade.
The drive for progression is behind equipment unlocks for faster mining/extraction and travel, to see other planets. The 'core' of the game is blasting rocks
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7DollarHagane
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I still play and love that game. It has a lot of complex gameplay. Just started learning Nash last week and it's like a new game. Having a great time.
No man's sky is like a lot of flash and little substance.
Street fighter 5 is like a lot of substance and little flash.
Will be interesting to see if the no man's sky ot is even half as busy as the sf5 ot is 5 months later. I highly doubt it.
Krappadizzle
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A mile wide and an inch deep.
At least that other person is shooting back
I don't know what kind of tactics, strategy, or on-the-fly decision making you need to mine rocks, but cool comparison
7DollarHagane
Banned
Every Dota stream I open is just someone playing a videogame
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
I'm enjoying the gameplay loop for now, but I'm still looking forward to the Angry Joe review thread.
Unknown?
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How can you say that when a lot of people like it? Don't speak opinion as fact, bad mistake!
It's unfortunate that this seems to be the trend for these kind of games, even Elite is remarkably shallow.
Blackleg-sanji1
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I bet that thread will be completely different than all the other Angy Joe review threads
It's an apt comparison for 2 reason:
1. The game is a survival game, resource collecting is going to be a *huge* part just like Minecraft or any of those other games. To be surprised that a majority people are doing that is silly. Just like I shouldn't be surprised everyone is just shooting something in OW.
2. Your statement has no context. If you strip out everything to it's basis it's going to all sound exactly the same, just like what I said with Overwatch. Now we both can a bit more descriptive and I can tell you who they're playing, what map, etc. As well you can tell me what they're mining, where they're mining and how hostile it is, and what their current goal involving that mining is. Or we can both just play stupid and pretend that none of that information matters to convey what's actually happening.
depths20XX
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It always hilarious when people try to compare this to a multiplayer game, completely missing the point of what makes multiplayer games interesting and what makes NMS completely devoid of content.
DR2K
Banned
Has anyone found this guy
I did. I fed it and it led me to treasure.
If Angry Joe doesn't like a game I buy it immediately. Good chance it's GotY material.
Heheh
Guess I need to buy NMS
Krappadizzle
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So my obvious opinion isn't a fact? Whodda thunk. Some of you's are so sensitive.
Kacho
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It's kinda sad really. You do one thing repeatedly so you can go to another planet and do it again x 18 quadrillion. I saw someone call this a video ass video game but I still think that's being too generous.
So far the game has less to offer while watching all this on twitch. Even the streamers agree it doesn't deserve the $60 price tag. It lacks so many elements to be entertaining.
But if ever a (soulslike?) MP is implemented, with the base building/giantships, more enemy/npc factions are added, that will make the game pretty solid.
But if ever a (soulslike?) MP is implemented, with the base building/giantships, more enemy/npc factions are added, that will make the game pretty solid.
7DollarHagane
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I think even adding some competent ground based combat encounters that are procedural would go a long way to fixing this game for me.
Like it could literally play like an average ps2 fps game and I would be ok with it.
Come across a group of 8 space pirates that are defending some materials, etc.
Something like the far cry 2 outposts would even be welcome.
Like it could literally play like an average ps2 fps game and I would be ok with it.
Come across a group of 8 space pirates that are defending some materials, etc.
Something like the far cry 2 outposts would even be welcome.
Zombie James
Banned
Second time this page I'm seeing this sentiment. Where are people getting this idea that there's no content or gameplay now?
Unknown?
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Zzzzz Yeah it's obvious, that doesn't negate using proper English to describe your opinion and not come off as an absolutist. The shit posting is real.
7DollarHagane
Banned
It's the one consistent criticism this game is getting. A boring gameplay loop that does nothing mechanically interesting whatsoever.
The gameplay is just patched together enough to even justify not watching the game be played.
click stuff, get stuff isn't exactly the height of gameplay design.
Krappadizzle
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Me personally, and THIS IS AN OPINION(in case some were confused) is that he tends to rate games based on his perceived value. Whether the game is worth the $30-60 asking price and whether it delivers on it's goals set out by the developer. He puts a lot of time and energy in creating lengthy(usually 15mins+) videos explaining his reasoning for rating things the way he does. People get so caught up on the "Angry Joe" moniker that they can't see the forest for the trees and dismiss his well reasoned points quite a bit.
I don't alway agree with him. He loved MGSV, where as I didn't. BUT he also never played any of the others in the series so had no foundation to build an opinion based on previous games like I did. If I had just gone into MGSV without playing the previous games I'm sure I would have loved it as much as he did as the game does so much right.
Not sure why he gets his own thread. But I'm glad he does. Those that don't like it, can just not click on it.
Jesus Christ dude, get over yourself. So if I had written IMO you wouldn't have thrown such a hissy fit? Being an english major, you sure must hate it here on Neogaf.
Kabuki Waq
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woo thanks man for a second there i thought the game was in fact actually a dud like a lot of the reviews have been saying.
Zombie James
Banned
When SFV came out it didn't work, it didn't have features we were told it would, it basically had nothing functional except versus and training. So people said it massively underdelivered and said they would wait until it hit the bargain bin like you said about NMS. Meanwhile many people bought and enjoyed (to varying extents) SFV and many people bought and are enjoying NMS (to varying extents). I guess you are saying that because one is a complex 2D fighter and the other isn't, one gets an eternal pass from you. That's fine if that's what your qualifications are; opinions and all that. I'm just surprised that somebody who doesn't care about lack of content in a SF game cares about lack of gameplay complexity in an adventure game.
Secondly, SFV thread is busy because of enthusiasts, it's not indicative of anything else (imo). NMS threads will be busy for a good while because of updates and mods at the absolute worst.
Thirdly, apart from everything else it seems like you're still at least somewhat interested in the game and there's nothing wrong w/ being financially responsible. So maybe waiting for you is the right move, by the time it hits $40 it will probably look a lot different. For me it's worth the $60 as is (though far from being without flaws) and I'm going to eagerly anticipate updates and mods.
7DollarHagane
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It's actually because he's an inflammatory bag of hot air that does a great job of attracting negative attention.
Maybe he should run for president?
More_Badass
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Neither is press button, hit stuff or hold button, move forward
But I guess nothing is the height of gameplay design when you simplify that much
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Maybe it's an allegory about the ennui of the daily grind. Work endlessly, fail to connect with others all doing the same thing, see pretty things, then get more of the fucking same. Lol.
DeepEnigma
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Reminds me of...
Diablo 2 *click click click click click click* joke from back in the day.
Yet I set alarms for Magic Find, lol.
letmetrythisname
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Aztechnology
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This is pretty much how I feel. It's sterile when it comes to its representation of life. The environments are breathtaking, but the things that make it compelling aren't there for me.
Also I want to confirm. This is Sean essentially in all the interviews where he's asked about multiplayer, laughing nervously. Then his worst fears came to pass when the astronomically slim chances of two players meeting happened.
by all means, please enlighten me on the immense depth of NMS's game design.
texhnolyze
Banned
This is a good subtitle for OT2, if we ever reach it.
Heavy_D206
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Space pirates sure as hell shoot back, lol. They even come out of nowhere, scan your your ship and take you out with ease if you have some good cargo.
More_Badass
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I mean, sure if you'd rather have an back-and-forth of hyberbolic responses that shift between extremes of zero content and immense depth rather that actually discussing the gameplay in any meaningful constructive fashion
depths20XX
Member
Regarding the gameplay element.
Think if you were dropped in Minecraft and you had just a pick axe and you could explore as far as the eye can see. The only thing you can do though is collect things and refill your energy so you can collect more things. You constantly see new areas but the objective is always the same. Collect the same things so you can collect more of the same things.
"Can I create new things that have an impact or show up in the world?"
"No, you can uh, name stuff though."
This is like the lowest of low gameplay loops. Loot games thrive on this but typically involve more interesting elements like unique builds or level progression and combat that involves some element of skill.
NMS clearly went all tech, "Look how we can make quadbillion planets". Except they forgot what makes a game fun. A random jumble of things farted out that you have no desire to even stay on a planet longer than it takes you to get the resources to go to the next planet.
Think if you were dropped in Minecraft and you had just a pick axe and you could explore as far as the eye can see. The only thing you can do though is collect things and refill your energy so you can collect more things. You constantly see new areas but the objective is always the same. Collect the same things so you can collect more of the same things.
"Can I create new things that have an impact or show up in the world?"
"No, you can uh, name stuff though."
This is like the lowest of low gameplay loops. Loot games thrive on this but typically involve more interesting elements like unique builds or level progression and combat that involves some element of skill.
NMS clearly went all tech, "Look how we can make quadbillion planets". Except they forgot what makes a game fun. A random jumble of things farted out that you have no desire to even stay on a planet longer than it takes you to get the resources to go to the next planet.
Sevenfold
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Spend your earnings on a slightly better thing, you may be on to something.
Or we could go back and forth with a bunch of holier-than-thou responses that dismiss the other's opinions while offering naught but a scolding and a tone of faux-authority.
I mean, I'm good with that too. I'm also OK with a honest, serious discussion about what this game actually is, but given the general level of discourse on this forum, I doubt anybody would even read it.
I was thinking earlier about complaints regarding the price of the game.
I came across a quote from Sean Murray discussing the future of No Man's Sky and the route they've taken for DLC. Now it's obviously going to be free, he explicitly said that he doesn't want to charge customers for any additional content at all, but I wonder whether that's what's driven the RRP for the game.
Ultimately the game is an ambitious indie game, and rather than price it lower and charge for any DLC they decided the best way forward was the model they've taken.
Thinking about it I actually prefer to pay upfront as it were, and as I've said several times I've got a really good feeling about this game. I can't see Hello Games leaving it to rot.
They've already got some interesting things in the pipeline like being able to build a base, which could put a new dynamic on things, e.g give you a reason to find a great planet, and obviously return to it often (if that's where your base is located).
While the reviews can only take into account what's infront of them, the main complaint is the repetition and feeling of micro management getting in the way. These complaints are easily dealt with in a patch, even the variety can be increased via a patch too.
This is definitely DriveClub all over for me. I'd love to re-visit the threads in 6 months time and compare the reactions.....
I came across a quote from Sean Murray discussing the future of No Man's Sky and the route they've taken for DLC. Now it's obviously going to be free, he explicitly said that he doesn't want to charge customers for any additional content at all, but I wonder whether that's what's driven the RRP for the game.
Ultimately the game is an ambitious indie game, and rather than price it lower and charge for any DLC they decided the best way forward was the model they've taken.
Thinking about it I actually prefer to pay upfront as it were, and as I've said several times I've got a really good feeling about this game. I can't see Hello Games leaving it to rot.
They've already got some interesting things in the pipeline like being able to build a base, which could put a new dynamic on things, e.g give you a reason to find a great planet, and obviously return to it often (if that's where your base is located).
While the reviews can only take into account what's infront of them, the main complaint is the repetition and feeling of micro management getting in the way. These complaints are easily dealt with in a patch, even the variety can be increased via a patch too.
This is definitely DriveClub all over for me. I'd love to re-visit the threads in 6 months time and compare the reactions.....
Golden_Pigeon
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Totally agree. It would be a sneaky hit down the road.
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