DeepEnigma
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I was just thinking this same thing.
This game is almost too big if that makes sense, but I love the sounds of it. Tickles my Buck Rodgers, 1980's choose your own adventure sci-fi/fantasy novel nostalgia.
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No Man's Sky Hands on impressions (Gamespot)
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I was just thinking this same thing.
This game is almost too big if that makes sense, but I love the sounds of it. Tickles my Buck Rodgers, 1980's choose your own adventure sci-fi/fantasy novel nostalgia.
bananafactory
Banned
I wouldn't read much into the livestream situation, I mean things happen and it's possible they couldn't make it or something came up. E3 is a busy time.
The trailer being pulled is odd though, I'll give you that.
I don't know how many galaxies there are but it will have 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets (18 quintillion). If a new planet is discovered every second it would take 584 billion years to visit every one just for a second.
bananafactory
Banned
The thing is, they only removed the latest trailer. The rest of the No Man's Sky content is all still on their Youtube channel.
Pestilence11
Member
Yeah he's wrong. Sean already said that it's like Journey, like you mentioned, in how if there's a large group congregating in the same area you'll only see a couple people.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It's probably nothing, but I'll ask Sean over twitter.
Jawbreaker
Member
But it was never exclusive.
It was a timed exclusive, and as recently as mid-May, Sony was talking about how they were going to treat the title as a first-party title. I'm not sure what's going on there.
Cheesecakebobby
Banned
Sure this has been asked, but are there only rocky planets? How about gas giants? Moons?
m_shortpants
Member
Man, I can imagine seeing another player would be so cool!
Of course most people would try and kill each other, naturally. But that's crazy cool if it's actually real time.
Of course most people would try and kill each other, naturally. But that's crazy cool if it's actually real time.
I don't necessarily agree, but this is a valid point I think. The goal is to get to the centre, but there really isn't anything driving you forward to do that besides mild curiosity. And sure there might be other ships out there, but its not like there are factions (AFAIK, though I may be wrong on this point) and lore at play. You won't find cities, or warring civilizations. So yeah i agree that the lack of story and driving force for the player could be a flaw with the games design.
Still, I'm curious. I'd like to go on this adventure for myself and see where it leads me. Maybe I'll get bored, maybe I won't. But at least for a short time, I think I can be my own driving force.
bananafactory
Banned
Yeah it's probably a weird coincidence, but I have a feeling this is going to blow up like every small thing seems to these days.
Steam Early Access, sure.
I'm pretty sure people have been tweeting them for the past few hours or so with no response. Something's up and it's worrying me. :/
Icyflamez96
Member
I didn't read into that at all until these other events started adding up. The fact that multiple things like this are going on probably means something is going down.
Sean recently announced that it would release on PC simultaneously with PS4, which means it's not a timed exclusive anymore.
People are already losing their minds on Reddit.
bananafactory
Banned
Yeah, it seems like the timed launch was Hello Games' call though, so I'm not convinced there was any contractual obligation. From the timed exclusive article:
I don't think it was ever truly a timed exclusive. Hello Games put the somewhat put the PC version on the back burner when their studios were flooded, but that was the only thing we have heard.
That seems like marketing bullshit to be honest.
Well, this is starting to get really interesting. Now I get what's the main gameplay loops and its definetely a game I will try.
I don't what's the fuss about people in this thread (and other NMS thread) visibly irritated from people asking "the hell you do in this game". In Minecraft threads this was still happening years after the game was out and nobody was crying.
I don't what's the fuss about people in this thread (and other NMS thread) visibly irritated from people asking "the hell you do in this game". In Minecraft threads this was still happening years after the game was out and nobody was crying.
bananafactory
Banned
My bad. I was looking at the @NoMansSky account, not @HelloGames
CheDominik
Member
I think it's sad that modern game design "brainwashed" people to think this way. I noticed this when reviews and people complained that you'd get lost in Killzone Shadowfall's first levels.
When I have the universe at my fingertips and can go wherever I want to, I don't want waypoints to distract from my experience.
It's weird because if they went through the trouble of updating people on when they would be showing up at the interview, you'd think they'd want to let people know why they weren't there.
Jawbreaker
Member
Something clearly happened that caused it to go from "timed exclusive" to day-and-date with PC. Not that I'm complaining since it means I can play the game with better IQ on day one now, but I can understand why Sony would start to back out now if things went sour. It's all speculation though, and as pointed out above, the "timed exclusivity" doesn't seem to have been super concrete.
Can you find evidence to point to a timed exclusive Jaw?
The only thing I remember is Hello Games not committing to a PC version release when their studios were flooded. Obviously they were able to make some gains in development time.
Game was announced for PC right after the its first debut.
EDIT: That article you linked was utter bullshit. I'm not blaming you, gaming journalism is just an unmitigated disaster.
bananafactory
Banned
It doesn't really make sense for Sony to do things like pull a trailer though, even if it's releasing on PC it's still going to move a few PS4 units. I can understand them stepping back from putting future money and advertisement into the title if there was a falling out, but to take the time to go and do things to disassociate themselves from it, at this point in time, doesn't make any logical sense.
Man this sucks. A definite answer of what is going on hopefully pops up soon, but I'm not holding my breath.
Seems like Sony is mad about something, maybe they weren't supposed to announce that it's coming to PC at the same time yet, or maybe that is was supposed to come to the PS4 first, PC a bit after.
Weird that they waited until now to take action.
Seems like Sony is mad about something, maybe they weren't supposed to announce that it's coming to PC at the same time yet, or maybe that is was supposed to come to the PS4 first, PC a bit after.
Weird that they waited until now to take action.
serenewarfare
Banned
To anyone wondering about the release date, Danny in the video mentioned how Sean said he'd "lose his mind if they were at E3 next year", and also the fact that Sean has said they wanted to announce the date at E3, but decided to wait a while longer. So it seems it'll most likely be out within the next 12 months.
Veritigo_X
Member
I thought it was just the stage demo this E3, not a trailer. Was that video even on their channel to begin with?
Net_Wrecker
Member
I think it was a Gamespot interview where Sean Murray said that Sony's always been extremely open to there being a PC version (he even referenced what they're doing with Street Fighter V as an example), and when the interviewer pressed for day and date on PC he said something to the effect of "as close as possible."
Would be extremely weird for any friction to be popping up now. Everything seemed fine. It's probably just some scheduling/marketing mistakes.
Would be extremely weird for any friction to be popping up now. Everything seemed fine. It's probably just some scheduling/marketing mistakes.
bananafactory
Banned
It doesn't make sense to be related to that. The PC announcement happened back on Tuesday, and they were scheduled to be on the live stream as recently as 7 hours ago.
Yeah sorry, it was a stage demo. And someone said that it was, though I didn't see it myself.
legacyzero
Banned
Did Playstation delete the No Man's Sky videos from the Youtube Channel? The fuck is going on here?
http://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/3acjt5/sony_deleted_no_mans_sky_e3_trailers_from/
http://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/3acjt5/sony_deleted_no_mans_sky_e3_trailers_from/
So it seems like the main object in this game is to earn money, however you can. I think they need to simplify things down to that in the PR or advertising:
You have a space ship.
You have a universe.
You have different ways to earn money in it: trading, mining, fighting, exploring.
Go have fun.
I said this in the last thread, but I think Sean Murray and Hello Games are being so cagey because they're thinking of No Man's Sky in a way similar to all the sandbox survival games that have recently popped up on Steam like DayZ or Rust. In an interview with GameSpot Murray directly compared NMS to games like Salt or Stranded Deep. Those are survival games that just drop players into sandbox worlds and let them forge their own paths while dealing with emergent events. More importantly, those games didn't really have any fanfare before appearing in publicly playable form. They just showed up on Steam Early Access and people started taking notice, circulating word of mouth.
Murray seems to want NMS to be that kind of game, but it's being revealed to the world in exactly the opposite way. Part of that is because the aforementioned type of game is still almost nonexistent on consoles which I think is contributing a lot to the confusion about what it is. As soon as Hello Games decided to unveil NMS at VGX a year and a half ago, Sony saw something it hadn't seen before and decided to hype the fuck out of it. Furthermore, it put A LOT of focus on the whole "You can explore real planets and deep space without loading screens!" aspect because that was pretty much unheard of to the vast majority of people in recent times. So now, instead of the quiet release and gradual word of mouth games like this usually get, NMS is being subjected to the typical AAA console game hype scrutiny.
I think people who are confused just need to forget about this game until it comes out and everyone starts talking about their experiences with it. It seems like the kind of game that's perfect for YouTubers and streamers, particularly because everyone whose videos you watch will be visiting completely different planets. What the game is will probably be much more clear then. I'm a bit worried that maybe the PS4 audience won't get it as much as the PC audience, but PS4 has built-in twitch streaming so maybe the same kind of word of mouth will spread there too.
You have a space ship.
You have a universe.
You have different ways to earn money in it: trading, mining, fighting, exploring.
Go have fun.
I said this in the last thread, but I think Sean Murray and Hello Games are being so cagey because they're thinking of No Man's Sky in a way similar to all the sandbox survival games that have recently popped up on Steam like DayZ or Rust. In an interview with GameSpot Murray directly compared NMS to games like Salt or Stranded Deep. Those are survival games that just drop players into sandbox worlds and let them forge their own paths while dealing with emergent events. More importantly, those games didn't really have any fanfare before appearing in publicly playable form. They just showed up on Steam Early Access and people started taking notice, circulating word of mouth.
Murray seems to want NMS to be that kind of game, but it's being revealed to the world in exactly the opposite way. Part of that is because the aforementioned type of game is still almost nonexistent on consoles which I think is contributing a lot to the confusion about what it is. As soon as Hello Games decided to unveil NMS at VGX a year and a half ago, Sony saw something it hadn't seen before and decided to hype the fuck out of it. Furthermore, it put A LOT of focus on the whole "You can explore real planets and deep space without loading screens!" aspect because that was pretty much unheard of to the vast majority of people in recent times. So now, instead of the quiet release and gradual word of mouth games like this usually get, NMS is being subjected to the typical AAA console game hype scrutiny.
I think people who are confused just need to forget about this game until it comes out and everyone starts talking about their experiences with it. It seems like the kind of game that's perfect for YouTubers and streamers, particularly because everyone whose videos you watch will be visiting completely different planets. What the game is will probably be much more clear then. I'm a bit worried that maybe the PS4 audience won't get it as much as the PC audience, but PS4 has built-in twitch streaming so maybe the same kind of word of mouth will spread there too.
bananafactory
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Icyflamez96
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FalconLorenzo
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Net_Wrecker
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Icyflamez96
Member
Yeah but what do you DO while stuck in traffic. What the POINT?
I'm dying right now
bananafactory
Banned
Yeah but what do you DO while stuck in traffic. What the POINT?
holy shit looool
and not to toot my own horn but....
Wish there was some incentive to go to the middle of the universe. Yes u can go upgrade ur ship when u get closer, but for what purpose? It would have been great if they reversed the scenario and 'forced' u to head to the middle of the universe, because the enemies are stronger on the outer sides of the universe. Kinda like FTL, where the enemy forces u to move on. That way u make ur way towards the middle to get better ship upgrades while u explore all those galaxies until u are strong enough to explore the outskirts of the universe. It would have given people a purpose to move on. Of course with enough upgrades the whole universe is safe enough to explore.
Icyflamez96
Member
Going to where it's harder, more dangerous, and where you can get better equipment seems like a solid incentive to me.
Jawbreaker
Member
It seems to have originated from an Edge story that was picked up by a bunch of sites. I haven't really seen anything "official," however. I know Sony introduced the game as making its "console debut" on PlayStation during their E3 2014 conference, but that's about it. As far as wording goes, I don't think "console debut" precludes a day-and-date PC release.
Edit: Welp, there it is. Nothing to see here, folks!
Itchy//Tasty
Member
This game kinda reminds me of how I play Far Cry; Don't give a fuck about story, I just walk off in a direction and see what happens. Everything's instinctual and player-motivated. Kinda ballsy to make a game where any and all linearity is removed in favour of pure player-motivated exploration, but that's the game's ethos and I get that.