toadsworth
Banned
The scariest part of the entire situation is the nuclear stockpile they are sure to be sitting on. They absolutely have a contingency plan to get those nukes out of the country and into terrorist networks the second shit goes down.
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North Korea Threatens Missile Strike on Guam (a United States Territory)
- Thread starter Armadilo
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ST2K
Member
Are we just ignoring the reality that the regime kills untolds amounts of its own citizens every year that it's around?
That's not a cost that should be ignored either.
ibitegirls
Member
North Korea isn't gonna do shit. Fuck that fat ass kid and also fuck the orange idiot
sechsterangriff
Member
I am more worried about NKs chemical and biological weapons than any nukes they may have...
Shadow Broker
Banned
That is beyond a act of war if ever. Not only will the United States wipe out NK they will also have to apologize to China for making such a mess at their border. It doesn't matter if it hits Or not. Hell if a missile just landed in US waters miles away from land it's an act of war.
Tangled Up in Blue
Banned
If someone shoots at you, and they miss, you don't give them the chance to take another shot, you end the threat immediately.
NHarmonic.
Member
Yeah, and who's to blame for this?
fluffydelusions
Member
Clearly Obama
SDCowboy
Member
Yes, but it's a question of if action would be taken.
JordanN
Banned
Giving nukes to terrorists seems like instant backfire.
The terrorist now have nukes, why wouldn't they proceed to threaten North Korea for more?
Sharknado
Raven117
Member
Yes, but NK wont do this either (they want to stay in power, remember), but if it does, god have mercy on that part of the world...millions will be dead.
Not to mention people in the US. I'm going to immediately give my 30 day notice and move away from the west coast if shit goes down.
As someone living in Japan, and even with the nuclear deterrence theory in mind, I'm not happy about this stuff. I don't think anything will happen anytime soon, but even then the US should start understanding their current world situation as a country and how everything relates to their allies and otherwise.
Then again, it's Trump, so he probably doesn't even understand what the word ally means.
Then again, it's Trump, so he probably doesn't even understand what the word ally means.
baxter2231
Member
Im more worried about what Trump is gonna do than what NK is gonna do. Nk aint gonna attack kim is not that crazy but Trump would attack first.
toadsworth
Banned
Because the US is already bombing them ? -- I'm talking about a last resort contingency plan for the regime
demosthenes
Member
If a launch was sent towards any US territory, S.Korea, Japan and other allies, North Korea would be hit as fast as command knew the attacks were real.
AcademicSaucer
Member
For it to work Russia also needs to be on it, I pass by the North Korean Embassy regularly and man they have money , hit their pockets and they will behave, the elite in NH has access to all kinds of foreign products
V
Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
I've had to hear about NK shenanigans for decades. Somebody do something.
Well, the whole NK situation has been dice-rolling ever since the Korean War.
Clean up the mess by attacking them and stabilizing the situation for the future, at the risk of escalation?
Or just wait it out and hope the NK collapses by itself?
Wait it out and hope they will be willing to talk and create a solution like China opening itself?
Oh, wait, they got nukes under development, attack now and hope for the best?
Wait, and hope they don't get nukes working?
Wait, and hope they will be willing to talk despite the nukes?
Attack and hope they don't get to use a nuke and/or hope you can shoot it down? (And hope shit doesn't escalate elsewhere.)
Really, no matter what you do, once any action other than "wait" is committed to, it is dice-rolling, one that can be perhaps nudged at best.
And even waiting is just wondering everyday if the NK leadership snaps.
SolarPowered
Member
Kim has no idea just what kind of Dragon's tail he is stepping on right now.
Imperfected
Member
Nah, let's just let this play out, I'm sure when the current Kim dies and the next one takes over the situation will de-escalate and millions of North Koreans will wake up freed from the perverse cult that's robbed them of any personal agency.
MrMephistoX
Member
By that logic we should have bombed Stalin back in the late 1940's and China in the 1950's after their first successful nuclear tests before their arms build ups: MAD is a shitty solution but it's the best one we've got. North Korea's regime wants to survive above all else so unless they actually attack an ally there's not a lot we can do at this point.
Netherscourge
Banned
Kim MUST have some shit on Trump.
Either that, or he has the secret backing of Russia.
Either that, or he has the secret backing of Russia.
bitbydeath
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if NK is just trying to coax the US into making the first move.
Most of the world follows China so if China turns on the US due to them firing nukes in their general direction then I'd say it is pretty much game over for the US.
SDCowboy
Member
What universe do you live in?
bitbydeath
Member
The real one.
Tangled Up in Blue
Banned
Yeah, but nuclear-tipped ICBMs exponentially increases the potential casualty yield, so we're now playing on a brand new field and nobody knows the rules. One misstep could start a disastrous chain reaction on a scale we've never seen before. It's horrifying.
Thank god America has a brilliant tactician at the helm. I'd hate to think what would happen otherwise.
We're fucked.
JordanN
Banned
Fox Mulder
Member
Well trump knows we have more.
Most of the world does not follow China... Maybe reliant on China for consumer goods, but they certainly don't follow and respect China's government. If there is a war, even with Trump, the vast majority of UN states will side with the US.
Raven117
Member
You will probably be okay. Its the Korean peninsula and potentially Japan that will be devastated.
Netherscourge
Banned
What if Kim has the piss tape?
That's what I was saying a couple pages back.
I think Russia gave Kim the pee pee tape and Kim is flexing his nuclear muscles openly now knowing Trump won't do shit.
That pee pee tape is a bigger nuclear deterrent than nuclear missiles.
Maybe it's worse than we know? Not just prostitutes peeing on a bed?
Maybe Trump got dressed up in a big diaper outfit too and let the prostitutes spank him and feed him with a baby bottle?
DrunkShogun
Member
Seriously fuck trump if South Korea or Japan become victims of his poor leadership. Right now it's the battle of the two man babies. I would be done with America people in general for allowing such a buffoon to become elected and cause such an outcome.
Hexa
Member
Secondly, it makes no sense for NK to try to coax a first move out of the US because it'll be the last move for NK. All that'll be left is a wasteland.
Sectorseven
Member
I'm glad the topic says what Guam is, so I know how outraged to be.
What's a territory?
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Imperfected
Member
Korea is a peninsula that does not have naval, air, or land control of their borders or sovereign space. The best they can do is smuggle things to China, and China already has nukes if they particularly want to transfer them to terrorist organizations.
NYCmetsfan
Banned
US troops in Japan
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
A colony for the post-colonial world.
Graphics Horse
Member
plus any serious harm to japan or sk would cause big economic losses that would affect everyone.
Jag
Member
We're kind of done with ourselves over this.