Oh jesus. How could it be that low?
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NPD Sales Results for November 2015 [Up3: Combined Hardware For PS4 + XB1 + Wii U]
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Oh jesus. How could it be that low?
No he's not. I dislike the "_____ is right though" responses we always get. If you believe this point out where he's right.
His tweets show such a basic 5th grader understanding of exclusivity, which he's holding onto for dear life to prove he's still right.
He's moved the goalposts because by now most people have forgotten what his article really said. In those tweets he's focused entirely on profits as if that was his only assertion in the article. Remember he said that this deal would help the game sell more copies. No he's not right about that at all.
Nameless
Member
Kuchera just tweeted this. Surely this is referencing ROTTR, right? If so, shouldn't he have asked that question before posting his opinion piece?
https://twitter.com/BenKuchera/status/675362367669145600
Of all the hills to die on...why not just say "I was wrong", make a crow eating joke and move on?
I'm not even sure he's right considering they were paying an outside dev to do the port to 360.
Stone Ocean
Member
We're two years in, cross gen has run its course
Man so many bad decisions.
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They are making PC and PS4 versions. Did they really offset anything? Like it was mentioned before, the answer to his question is obviously yes. However in the context of Tomb Raider deal he has been wrong from the get go. The man is just looking for an easy out.
harrisk954
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I think (and correct me if I'm wrong smart people on this site), but when you are talking about multiplatform titles, aren't the costs of concurrent development on PS4 and XB1 much lower to the point of being minimal in the overall scheme of things (budget, design, coding, etc.) than last gen when the PS3 and XB360 had such different architecture? It would seem to me that the losses from only releasing on one platform far exceed the benefit of developing only for one this generation due to the similarities between XB1 and PS4. Or am I completely wrong on that?
That's like 25-28k copies assuming there are 42-45 million 360 in the US. Not that bad... sounds reasonable.
dugdug
Banned
Kuchera just tweeted this. Surely this is referencing ROTTR, right? If so, shouldn't he have asked that question before posting his opinion piece?
https://twitter.com/BenKuchera/status/675362367669145600
Something else to take away from this tweet is a response from Pat Guarino. His profile says he used to work at Crystal Dynamics, and, he says there that Nixxes has been doing PC and Sony versions of Tomb Raider games since TR: Legend. (I don't know how to screen cap tweets like that, but, here's the link: https://twitter.com/Patorama/status/675363861495582720 )
Is that something that was already known? Would that mean Nixxes did both the PS3 and PS4 versions of the reboot?
RedAssedApe
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Kuchera just tweeted this. Surely this is referencing ROTTR, right? If so, shouldn't he have asked that question before posting his opinion piece?
https://twitter.com/BenKuchera/status/675362367669145600
not sure why he is trying to double down on this. just admit you were wrong and move on. likes the attention i guess despite his use of the word "shaming"
its not even about profitability of ROTR at this point. its about damaging the brand and future earning potential of the franchise. people are just going to remember "ROTR bombed" and to a lesser extent...yeah there were some backdoor shady deals that might have made SE some money in the present.
they did ROTR 360 and TR (PC/360) and TR
E (PS4).Zombie James
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Kuchera just tweeted this. Surely this is referencing ROTTR, right? If so, shouldn't he have asked that question before posting his opinion piece?
https://twitter.com/BenKuchera/status/675362367669145600
Getting another spin piece ready?
About the tweet he's right. I'm not talking about the article (I didn't even read), if he said that would lead to more copies sold, obviously he's crazy.
harrisk954
Member
I think that the PS4 and PC versions were being developed at the same time as the XB1 version and got shelved for a time after MS wrote the big check.
Bolivar687
Banned
So around 27k copies for the 360 version in the 200k Xb1+360 total
piccio_ssl
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LOL this guy
Stone Ocean
Member
Now he's just scraping the bottom of the barrel
not sure why he is trying to double down on this. just admit you were wrong and move on. likes the attention i guess despite his use of the word "shaming"
its not even about profitability of ROTR at this point. its about damaging the brand and future earning potential of the franchise. people are just going to remember "ROTR bombed" and to a lesser extent...yeah there were some backdoor shady deals that might have made SE some money in the present.
they did ROTR 360 and TR (PC/360) and TR
he is cut from the same cloth as arthur geis. never admit you are wrong!!
they did ROTR 360 and TR (PC/360) and TR
No, TR (PC/PS3)
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Probably around 150k only on XB1 at best (50k sales for 360 version).
Damn I doubt they made enough money to justify the port.
Why did Microsoft want a 360 sku for TR?
75/25 split is too big. I doubt 360 version sold 50k.
Nameless
Member
http://www.pcgamer.com/tomb-raider-reboot-has-sold-85-million-copies/
Totally sounds like a sequel would've been impossible/improbable without MS' help.
Fucking Christ. As a "journalist" he should know that's blatantly wrong about ROTR's development. Otherwise he is straight up suggesting full out lies to cover up how wrong he is.
No he's not. RotTR released on more than a single platform.
Stone Ocean
Member
Probably expected cross gen to still be a thing by now. Then all devs bailed by last year lol
Which is a shame as it seems to be a pretty good port
CosmicQueso
Member
I love ROTTR. It's probably my GOTY. I hope it has a long life, gets a good pop with PS/PC and goes on to sell more than the reboot. But to see Kuchera do this to himself over this title is just so stinking weird to watch.
I think that was S-E decision, probably they thought that big Xbox 360 install base would bring sales
RedAssedApe
Banned
oops thanks for the correction. i was looking at the nixxes project page too. not sure why i typed 360 lol
Iced Arcade
Member
That marketing dollar marketing the wrong crowds lol
gundamkyoukai
Member
TR should have never come out on 360 it was a waste of time and money .
harrisk954
Member
I don't know about that... you still have a ton of 360 only owners out there who need games to play and gifts for parents to give their kids... what was really out for the 360 this holiday? Halo and Fallout were both current gen only (XB1/PS4) games. So, with the tens of millions of 360-only owners in the US, it isn't plausible that it was a 75/25 split?
Bioshocker
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So I stand firm with that Crystal Dynamics probably didn't request their game to be an Xbox holiday exclusive. Lol.
Black Ops 3 sold more on PS4 with the bundle thanks to that marketing dollar.
cartographer
Member
It probably would have been fine with a smarter release strategy. Maybe not as good as they would have hoped, but it suffers from SE's silly release strategy just like the XBO version.
Stone Ocean
Member
Black Ops had bundles, I think? Someone correct me if im wrong
harrisk954
Member
Wow... gap now 1.1 million in the US, MS's home turf. Up from about 800,000 before entering the holidays. Ouch!
gundamkyoukai
Member
Nah nothing should shock people after how the media was leading up to this gen .
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Maybe not but the active 360 install base in the U.S is still bigger than almost anywhere so 50k sales for the old gen version wouldn't be remarkable.
Wow, what the fuck
He still should know this shit.
LOLchera is at it again...
opticalmace
Member
I assume you mean 6%, not 0.06% (cause that would be 120 copies).
CosmicQueso
Member
You have the 360 number. Look up.
Try that math again. Your calculator is broken.
has this been proven? i know we are talking 283k or so cod bundles but we don't know the platform split right?