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NPD Sales Results for October 2015 [Up1: Xbox #1]
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Primethius
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LOL, the above few posts. Good stuff.
Nightengale
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gaming_noob
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Cringe-worthy. I'm kind of sick of the humble act.
presagetogood
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To counter some of the narrative around bad hardware sales; judging sakes patterns overall for the year is the most crucial data for estimating the health of the industry. This close to the holidays, console sales suffering is not all that unreasonable, since we have a much much more informed buying public, and since the gotta have releases that would have pushed sales upwards were limited to halo. The more informed buying public is exponentially more informed than they were in 2007, and that's why the push for mid cycle enhancements a la ps4.5, lower entry prices at the start of the generation, and hardware generations that cycle faster [than 7 years], and more backwards compatible hardware all begin to look like the way of the future. We just have to consider how the console hardware can live in a rapidly advancing and accessible computing age.
I'm not all that concerned about October sales because holiday sales will be huge. But the level of holiday sales is certainly something to look into. We have to consider the much higher burn rate for consumer product fads nowadays and figure out how to loop consoles into that, balancing and juxtaposing that against what we saw for hardware sales at the end of last gen, which would be our most recent example. We're in an age where things move fast though...and we can't count on stability and the status quo.
All that being said, glad to see halo show some results for ms. It is a bit troubling that the effect wasn't larger, and that's the bigger indicator of trends I'll take from all this. A game that's about fun multiplayer longevity is a second thought at least when it comes to converting new users. I expect it to have legs, but whether it pushes new sales, or creates some more parity with ps4 in the US will be a determinor for me.
I'm not all that concerned about October sales because holiday sales will be huge. But the level of holiday sales is certainly something to look into. We have to consider the much higher burn rate for consumer product fads nowadays and figure out how to loop consoles into that, balancing and juxtaposing that against what we saw for hardware sales at the end of last gen, which would be our most recent example. We're in an age where things move fast though...and we can't count on stability and the status quo.
All that being said, glad to see halo show some results for ms. It is a bit troubling that the effect wasn't larger, and that's the bigger indicator of trends I'll take from all this. A game that's about fun multiplayer longevity is a second thought at least when it comes to converting new users. I expect it to have legs, but whether it pushes new sales, or creates some more parity with ps4 in the US will be a determinor for me.
meanspartan
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Thanks for all the answers!
Don't know why I've never joined in the NPD fun til now.
Free DLC is the way to keep the player base from fragmenting due to some owning the content and others not. This is definitely needed for a smaller player base.
3rdamention
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RedAssedApe
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Aaron's appearance on KFG podcast probably drove all the Playstation best friends to buy Xbones.
3rdamention
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In the past it has been surprisingly accurate
Notice I said software, for hardware, it has been very accurate.
meanspartan
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I love seeing that Rocket League is still doing solid! Deserves it, what a game!
MGS is a bit low no? Bummer that in the end, Konami might be proven right. Regardless, they handled the whole thing very unprofessionally, they still deserve shit for that.
Preorders for the CoD and SW bundles don't count in our stores until they are actually picked up.
However, and I clarified this in the thread, I believe, that the momentum and numbers I was seeing was only for Best Buy, lower than anything on the Destiny Bundles (either of them) - and that I had no idea how any of this would impact Walmart or Gamestop, which make up the lion's share of the US market.
And from what it sounds like how minimal this month really was... Shit, man.
Maybe those two chains were just all wrapped up in ways we didn't see quite the same way at Best Buy. The specific customer bases can be impacted very differently, after all.
Didn't ps3 outsold the 360 on GTA V month?
Thanks for the clarification, Abdiel!
Nice to know that console pre orders only count at the moment of launch.
I must have skipped your clarification, the thread was huge. Should had just checked your post history.
In the past it has been surprisingly accurate
Only for hardware.
Primethius
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With this month, Amazon has only been inaccurate twice now I believe. And I suppose the difference between the two consoles will shed some more light on to that.
lol give me a break.
StrongBlackVine
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In the past it has been surprisingly accurate
After Bloodborne/Hardline month I can't say I put too much stock in their software numbers. Hardware I still think it is a good indicator.
gundamkyoukai
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Yep Hardware they mostly right but software is a waste of time with them .
Also completely untrue. MGS4 month for example.
igordennis
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Where did you get that from?
statham
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maybe?
lots of core went to PS4 that would buy the game, H4 and MCC disaster, 343 and not Bungie, too many games this fall, maybe they expected it not do as well, but somehow still very successful? No idea.
What caused the bump in sales?
jhmtehgamr20xx
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PS4 won last October but not Nov/Dec. Or is this just something inherently special to Xbox? Is it the secret sauze?
Yer that post was weird. I mean when the special editions went online a couple of months back they sold out like instantly. Naughty Dog gained a lot of new fans after the Last of Us.
Well, the quote said that ps3 never outsold the 360.not that it was n° 1. =p
"although its worth pointing out that last generation, when the 360 dominate, PlayStation 3 never had months where a big game would help it outsell Microsofts hardware."
AgentP
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Wha...?
Those PS4 bundles are mostly pre-orders for this month, how do they change October NPD?
The Amazon charts were extremely predictable for October IMO. Halo 5 and Uncharted bundles were neck and neck, couple that with the pre-orders of Halo 5 from previous months and it predicted a XB1 win (by a small margin I imagine).
Why can't FO4 beat COD?
Last hurrah for Greenberg. Still dropping the gold.
OfficerRaichu15
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theprodigy
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gundamkyoukai
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Waste of time best to wait for cream .
Anyone that use if and correct is not to be trusted with numbers .
pr0cs
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I'm glad Microsoft had a good month, if you bring new and compelling software you should be awarded. That plus releasing windows 10 on a console which I would imagine would be a massive undertaking. To me they gained a monstrous amount of goodwill by finally recognizing that not everyone is OK abandoning their digital purchases from gen to gen and at least have some basic but usable backwards compatibility.
The xbone released under shitty Xbox management and they suffered and deservedly so but its clear the xbone is finally hitting its stride and as a gamer I'm happy about that
The xbone released under shitty Xbox management and they suffered and deservedly so but its clear the xbone is finally hitting its stride and as a gamer I'm happy about that
igordennis
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Ok something i respect about you is that although you are always very positive about Microsoft, you never meltdown about stupid shit like some other MS fans on this site (you know their names).
Gotdatmoney
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WOOLLY WORLD DA GAWD.
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
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xbox one + ps4 + wii u = 600k
wii u at 95k => PS4 200k
wii u at 95k => PS4 200k
Small gap.
The Artisan
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wow, what a turn of events.
the first full month that xbone had its price cut, Ps4 outsold. now this was the first full month of Ps4's price cut, but xbone won.
the first full month that xbone had its price cut, Ps4 outsold. now this was the first full month of Ps4's price cut, but xbone won.
Why 600k?
Mister Megative
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This isn't directed at you Jav, but salesGAF in general.
I'm not sure why people are surprised. It's the month before the biggest sales period in America. Anyone who expected either to sell 400k+ in October was kidding themselves, IMHO. They didn't last year. They wouldn't this year. Halo 5 and 50 dollar price drops are well and good, but people PROVED last year they'll wait for deals. Did no one see the leaked Black Friday deals? And even then, Xbox One is up 81% YoY, BEFORE Black Friday, BEFORE the holiday rush. I find that encouraging, myself. People screaming about Halo 5 being down compared to Halo 4 need to remember that A: digital sales aren't counted, B: bundles aren't counted, and C: it released end of the month.
Beyond that, next gen console sales overall are up 12% YoY. And yet here we are again at "consoles are doomed". Because a console didn't sell what some armchair analyst said it should, ignoring the YoY growth.I'm past exasperation, and have settled somewhere between disbelief and incomprehension. Or maybe I'm just too dumb to comprehend the train of thought. At any rate, back to Fallout 4, right after I use necromancy to raise my poor PS4 from the dead.