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NPD Sales Results for October 2015 [Up1: Xbox #1]

JaggedSac

Member
So Sony led software? Halo being Halo was going to win the month anyway.

Next up Halo 6 at 120 fps at 480p.

You will be able to play Halo 6 at 120fps...because it will release day and date on PC. These sales figures just further cement that opinion of mine.

Plus, we already see it has a negligible effect on hardware. I think that is what I have gathered from this thread. It just isn't the franchise it used to be and tapping into the PC market would be a great way to get some bigger numbers.
 

Javin98

Banned
I expected the world to burn after the NPD release, but now I just feel empty.
Same. Most of us expected much better sales from hardware than this. However, this thread might go into meltdown when creamsugar arrives. If I understand what Cosmic is hinting at correctly, some posters won't be happy about it.
 

Shenmue

Banned
Like I thought there was no way Xbox was going to lose in Halo month.

IT'S HALO! This isn't some flawed and content-light new IP like Titanfall. IT'S HALO
 

Windforce

Member
“We are truly humbled by the success of the PlayStation 4 and look forward to celebrating with our fans at PlayStation Experience in December,” a Sony spokesperson said. “Thank you to our community for making PlayStation 4 the top selling console globally.”

They were like "US sales?! Pffff we got the whole world baby"

Basically it said "In October, we lost the National Title. However, we won the World Championship. Thanks to all our fans." or something like that.

Thanks. lol :p
 

meanspartan

Member
Same. Most of us expected much better sales from hardware than this. However, this thread might go into meltdown when creamsugar arrives. If I understand what Cosmic is hinting at correctly, some posters won't be happy about it.

Continuing with my series of "I am an NPD thread noob" questions, who is Creamsugar, and why does he have this apparent authority?

Thanks for teaching me guys :-D
 
Has the wait for Black Friday deals permanently stunted October sales?


It could have....

You have Black Friday around the corner. Microsoft ran crazy deals last year, many could anticipate more this year leading up to Christmas. PS4 has three bundles that release in November including 2 of the more popular Holiday titles, plus more hopes of Black Friday Deals.


Sure, we know almost all the Black Friday deals now, but nobody knew them in October.
 

heidern

Junior Member
http://venturebeat.com/2015/11/12/october-2015-npd-halo-5-leads-gaming-to-805m-october/

American consumers spent $805.9 million on new game-related software and hardware at retailers last month, according to industry-tracking firm The NPD Group. That was up 2 percent compared to $788.7 million in October 2014. Hardware and software were down, but it was accessories that ensure the industry saw what little growth it did.

Accessories, which now includes interactive toys like Amiibo and Skylanders as well as plastic Rock Band guitars, was up 18 percent to $197 million. That’s compared to $168.2 million during the same period of last year. That buoyed software, which was down 3 percent from $349.4 million to $337.7 million, and hardware, which was essentially even year-over-year from $271.1 to $270.3 million.

“With trends mirroring hardware as console game sales were offset by a 42 percent decline in portable game sales.”

That’s the Smash effect in play once again.

“[This] generation of consoles had a strong month with 62 percent growth over October 2014, while last-generation console sales dropped by 63 percent,” said Callahan. “That’s higher than the year-to-date decrease in sales of 51 percent.”

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/despite-ps4-price-cut-xbox-one-tops-october-2015-u/1100-6432257/

Nintendo didn't discuss the performance of its hardware, but did highlight a few other areas of its business. Amiibo sales topped 9 million in the US, thanks to more than 800,000 Amiibo figures and cards being sold during October. Wii U software sales were up 40 percent year-over-year, and are up 20 percent when comparing the first ten months of 2015 with the same period during 2014.

http://www.vg247.com/2015/11/13/xbox-one-wins-october-thanks-halo-5/
Portable sales fell 27% year-on-year, which is more dramatic-seeming than it is; there were major portable sales in October 2014.
 
Same. Most of us expected much better sales from hardware than this. However, this thread might go into meltdown when creamsugar arrives. If I understand what Cosmic is hinting at correctly, some posters won't be happy about it.

Well, some of the more prominent users don't seem to care(superficially anyway) as long as it's number 1. Or until Black Friday is done and dusted anything can happen in regards to the importance of these numbers.
 

kadotsu

Banned
You will be able to play Halo 6 at 120fps...because it will release day and date on PC. These sales figures just further cement that opinion of mine.

Plus, we already see it has a negligible effect on hardware. I think that is what I have gathered from this thread. It just isn't the franchise it used to be and tapping into the PC market would be a great way to get some bigger numbers.

I could see them carving out just Warzone and putting it on the Win10 store next year.
 

Javin98

Banned
Continuing with my series of "I am an NPD thread noob" questions, who is Creamsugar, and why does he have this apparent authority?

Thanks for teaching me guys :-D
Creamsugar is our hero! On a more serious note, he has access to NPD numbers and he shares them with us in the form of pies and vague numbers, leaving us to decipher them.
 

Mrbob

Member
Those hardware numbers seem low considering the PS4 price drop and Halo 5 coming out in October.

Let's see how November goes though before doom and gloom.
 

Shenmue

Banned
So Guitar Hero bombed this month?

Yup there was never any doubt. GH was the top dog early, but as time went on RB was more popular which is why GH started copying them with the whole band idea. Given all the content carrying over too I don't know why any significant amount of people would chose GH over RB.
 
Thank you!

You. I like you. Good questions.

do we know with any degree of certainty that NPD is a representative sample of global (or even just national) sales?

NPD forecasts the US video game Packaged goods market on an over 90% sample. The extrapolation rates for the remaining percentage are quite solid. Therefore, yes, there is a high degree of reliability for the market.

For instance, I've heard Gamestop isn't counted. If that is correct, then it might matter whether buying habits of Gamestop customers differ from other retailers that are counted in regards to whether the sample is representative.

You heard incorrectly. NPD has arrangements with all major US retailers including Walmart, GameStop, Best Buy, Amazon, and many, many others.

I guess what I am asking is how accurate these numbers are at predicting whatever the "real" sales data is globally or nationally, physical and digital. Assuming we ever even get to know that real data.

The figures NPD publishes are quite good for estimating the size of the packaged goods, physical, retail, video game market. However, the figures do not include sales of digital software on PSN or XBL, for example. Therefore, the slice NPD represents is a quite poor representation of the complete market for video game spending.

The packaged goods market has been in decline for some time. However, these declines are more than made up for by growth in Digital, Mobile, Tablet, PC, etc. The overall gaming pie is growing at a fantastic rate. However, the portion of the market NPD covers is in decline.

NPD has cracked down on the type of data it releases publicly because, as this slice is the only data available, it is quite misleading for the health of the industry as a whole.
 

BokehKing

Banned
Cause people expected there to be higher numbers since there was a price drop and a major release this month
Oh I'm in the camp of ps4 should just be $300 for the final 3 months of the year and then go back to $350

A $50 price cut isn't going to makeup for not having a good October/Halloween bundle to take on a Microsoft flagship title


Bloodborne/until dawn/the order 1886 IMO is better than I chartered bundle
 

AgentP

Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
Like I thought there was no way Xbox was going to lose in Halo month.

IT'S HALO! This isn't some flawed and content-light new IP like Titanfall. IT'S HALO

Umm, Titanfall month sold more consoles at a higher price...
 

Ryng_tolu

Banned
Amiibo sales topped 9 million in the US, thanks to more than 800,000 Amiibo figures and cards being sold during October.

Jesus, nearly 1 million amiibo in one month... It looks like we will easy see +4 millions in Nov+Dec, if not 5 millions.
 

cackhyena

Member
Halo 5 is the most fun I've had with the series in a while. Bummed it didn't do better. It's not hurting, but still, it's not what it used to be.
 

Loudninja

Member
PlayStation Store: October’s Top Sellers
PS4 Games
1 Assassin’s Creed Syndicate
2 UNCHARTED The Nathan Drake Collection
3 NBA 2K16
4 Destiny
5 Minecraft: Story Mode – Episode 1: The Order of the Stone
6 EA SPORTS FIFA 16
7 Grand Theft Auto V
8 Rocket League
9 Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition
10 WWE 2K16
11 Everybody’s Gone to the Rapture
12 METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN
13 Madden NFL 16
14 DISGAEA 5: ALLIANCE OF VENGEANCE
15 Metro Redux
16 Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor
17 Outlast
18 Tales of Zestiria
19 Devil May Cry 4 Special Edition
20 DRAGON QUEST HEROES: The World Tree’s Woe and the Blight Below
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/11/playstation-store-octobers-top-sellers/
 

Yurikerr

This post isn't by me, it's by a guy with the same username as me.
I'll repeat that i think the ps4 number can be skewed by the cod and battlefront bundles that where available to pre order but will only count next month.

On the predictions thread we had the best buy insider saying that ps4 was enjoying a healthy sales pace (even outselling XB1), but i think he never told the SKU split.

And Amazon rankings shows that the November games' bundles are pretty popular.
 
Well, some of the more prominent users don't seem to care(superficially anyway) as long as it's number 1. Or until Black Friday is done and dusted anything can happen in regards to the importance of these numbers.

Nov is going to be very telling be it hardware or software .
I expect this month to be crazy .
You have 3 big games that should should move tons of software .
A lot of bundles and deals .
 
Take away from this is Amazon best seller is EXTREMLY unreliable list. So many PS4 bundle were ahead of Xbox One for Oct. Right now Fallout is also way ahead of COD for Nov month but no way I think Fallout will out do COD. Right?

Amazon is not EXTREMELY unreliable. Amazon is a great indicator of trends each month being the biggest online retailer and it has only been wrong (I think) twice since this generation launched. The difference is that they don't have a brick and mortar presence so I don't think that Amazon is always affected by the market trends the same way that Best Buy and Target are. Bottom line is that Amazon is a great way to track sales throughout the month and it is going to be correct the majority of the time. I also think that there is a public perception that Amazon has better prices all year round and doesn't have "traditional" sales like brick and mortar stores which are entering what is generally perceived as the hottest time to buy stuff -- Black Friday. Amazon doesn't carry that perception, so you are not going to see as much of a drop off in October on Amazon as at regular stores.
 

GnawtyDog

Banned
Probably. That is why they introduced the REQ system. If you anticipate less users and you want the same revenue, you have to find another way to get said revenue.

Or the feasible answer. Getting up to speed with modern business models while playing the goodwill card of "free DLC" after the MCC disaster. But that's just how I see it.
 

zsynqx

Member

Even though he is technically right...

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I just wanted to use this gif!
 
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