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NPD Sales Results for October 2015 [Up1: Xbox #1]
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slavesnyder
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Release week has preorders, too.
That's much more important.
The gap is getting closer
HORRORSHØW
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AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
Well Halo pulled sales into October, the price cut pushed sales into November. People can't seem to grasp that three out of four PS4 bundles that received the cut are released in November.
Then I suppose you wouldn't mind adding in the numbers too?
I doubt many expected a decline of over 50% though. I know I sure as hell didn't.
My point is that these figures are literally astonishing. The declines are nigh unbelievable. Thus it's worth affording them the attention they deserve to discuss them at length in their own dedicated spaces. Declines like these don't happen everyday for established franchises.
Definitely MCC.
Did George say anything about Yoshi, Destiny and Uncharted numbers?
It might do something similar in terms of second month sales maybe 500-700K second month, obviously it would rank much lower overall since there are other major releases.
It might do something similar in terms of second month sales maybe 500-700K second month, obviously it would rank much lower overall since there are other major releases.
The more the better !
MisterR
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He usually goes with 90-100% I believe. He has 10 friends and I believe 9 of them bought it digitally.
I get your point, but would MS be satisfied with Halo being a B-tier AAA game (in terms of sales)? It is their biggest IP after all, if 343i can make a new IP that sells 6-7 million, it would be a much better long-term business decision.
They shouldn't give up this early yet though, one game doesn't make a trend, if Halo 6 performs similarly, then they definitely need another IP to carry the reigns.
Is the circle of life.
Halo is dying, Forza is irrelevant, Fable F2P, let's see how Gears does. But the MS cicle from X360 isn't working here.
That's why is important to invest in new IPs... I mean The Last of Us 2 is going to do better than Uncharted 4. for example.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
By the equivalent of me owing you ten bucks and then paying you back $0.05.
Altered Juice
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people going full force for their team on the last couple of pages. not even trying to hide it lmao
Not yet.
Sangetsu-II
Member
Interesting, so you guys think:
-The PS4 will maintain it's current gap ending the holiday?
OR
-Will make the gap wider with the bundles this holiday?
MisterR
Member
I'd guess zero.
With Blops 3 and Battlefront releasing i'd say slim to none
Doing better than one of the three last gen consoles.
I don't know why a few on here keep promoting preloading like it's some super enticing thing. It's not. Getting a game early however, as in a whole day, two or three early, and at a cheaper price, now that's enticing.
The Halo OT/review threads made this even clearer. Where so many who ordered retail were playing the game early whilst digital buyers, most of whom had paid more for the game, were twiddling their thumbs waiting for that midnight launch.
Katana_Strikes
Member
About as much chance as WiiU winning the month.
Sony probably sold more PlayStations outside of US because of drop? I mean, they have a market outside of the US/UK. I'm not really familiar with overseas but how many countries have something like black Friday lined up like the US?
Sorry for possible tone / punctuation etc. Typing on my windows phone and I have issues rendering the page :-
Agreed. It doesn't seem sustainable to me. Inevitably it just leads to a few titles getting starling results while the rest flounder in mediocrity. It simply cannot continue or games like Tomb Raider, Dragon Quest Heroes, and other non top their releases will continue to pay the price.
You guys.
Steverulez
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Well, your suggestion assumes that 343s new IP would make 6-7 million and also you're swapping "B-tier AAA game sales" to "no AAA game sales" [for Halo]
MS have plenty of new IPs coming, its not like they need one from 343 specifically, I think they do need Halo though even if its not what it was.
I wouldn't be so sure, UC3 sold better & faster than TLOU (Worldwide of course), the Teen rating probably has a lot to do with it though.
LegendofDragoonLives
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Pretty bad numbers for Halo 5, PS4 and terrible numbers for Ass Creed. I have no sympathy for that annual game, but it is a bit sad seeing these numbers for Halo and PS4. No idea how MS made 400$ million if those numbers are legit, unless they're counting all consoles lol... Sony selling under 300K when they finally drop the price is also really disappointing, though I'm curious how it will do these next two months with the COD and especially Casualfront bundle.
Personally, I'm still expecting a gap of 200K between the PS4 and XB1 this November and I expect the PS4 to take December by a significant margin as well, so I think the gap will be wider by the end of 2015.
harrisk954
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What in the world are you talking about? October is going to generally be lower due to anticipation for BF. There have been leaked BF ads showing PS4 bundles for $299.. why would anyone foolishly spend their money in October knowing that they will save a few weeks later. And as far as Halo, yes the luster has dulled on the franchise in general, especially with XB1's lower install base than PS4, but honestly, MS probably should have tried to squeeze in a release date for Halo in November -- maybe even a BF release -- with a $350 bundle price. Yes, it would have been mixed in with Fallout, Battlefront and COD, but I still believe more HW and SW would have moved. As it is, the Halo "hype" is already gone because a week after its release, COD came out, followed quickly by FO4 and then Battlefront next week. Halo being released on BF would at least have given it more of a perception as a new release on store shelves while everyone was doing their holiday shopping and there would have been much more "hype" during that intense shopping window. Next month will paint a far different picture of sales for both PS4 and XB1.
Purely, anecdotal and maybe not indicative of national trends, but I was in my local Gamestop (South Florida) last week and a 12 year old kid was already trading Halo in... when I asked him why, he said he didn't like it and his friends weren't playing it. After he left, the store manager said they were getting a lot of trade-ins on it, which is surprising for a brand new game that is focused so much on multiplayer. Now, that could be one isolated store, but I am not so sure about that.
ShogunDarius
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Ps4 has the Star Wars marketing , I'd say it's gonna widen
Go_Ly_Dow
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The collective tanking of Halo 5, Assassins Creed, Xbox 1 and decline of console gaming with subpar PS4 sales, provides myself as NeoGeo gamer great gratification and sense of inner warmth.
This is what you heathens get for disowning most beautiful handheld of all time with your AAA games and shooters. I've been waiting for this moment my whole life and now I'm basking in its glory.
Oh my God
Crazyorloco
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Should read 4 days for halo 5 to be more fair. The game has sold well, but not as well as the prior games.
Do we ever get digital sales numbers? I actually downloaded Halo 5, because I know it'll be a game I go back to over and over for the online multiplayer.
I'd also like to know Mario Makers total sales on digital.
My reasoning is that they need to get their biggest studio on making that new IP, it's not a guarantee that it will sell 6-7 million, but it's more likely if their biggest studio is the one that's making the IP.
Japanmanx3
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Primethius
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I wake up to see that Halo 5 sold 935k with bundles?
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DarkLordMalik
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Still no Dragon Quest Heroes, Tales of Zestiria and Disgaea 5 numbers 
Atleast I am glad to know that Disgaea 5 did well, and it also charted higher digitally than DQH and Zestiria.
Atleast I am glad to know that Disgaea 5 did well, and it also charted higher digitally than DQH and Zestiria.
Whoa! What's the story here?
DryvBy
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Basically this :
Halo 5 : 1 week of tracking (includes bundles but not digital)
Halo 3 : 2 weeks of tracking
others : 3 weeks of tracking
Keep in mind that the drop in UK for Halo 5 was around 80% for week 2.
That's the sales in 2 weeks for Halo 3? That's insane if I'm reading this correctly.
Consider a lot of people, including people I've talked to and my family, are waiting on the Black Fridays deals for the holiday It makes sense to cut back the month before. The next NPD is gonna be really good.
MCC definitely bred a lot of resentment in even the most avid fans of the franchise. No doubt that it was toxic for the IP. This was just compounded by the thin ice the series was already on with fans following Halo 4. But I honestly don't think anyone would be predicted these figures. This is far lower than even the most negative predictions made on GAF. The worst was Conduit's 900k retail sales. I mean it literally defied every expectation.
No way, look at the UK chart. It's dropped by 78% the second week...
Legendary.
down 2 orth
Member
I don't mean to gloat, but all those guys who say that word of mouth from hardcore gamers amounts to nothing... they're totally full of shit.
privitsan02
Member
I don't know who to trust.
Those numbers seem very low, and I don't know of any of these "insiders" or their credentials. Then again, Microsoft haven't released any convincing PR to make me think otherwise.
All I can really say right now is congrats on getting number 1 Halo and Xbox.
Best wishes.
Those numbers seem very low, and I don't know of any of these "insiders" or their credentials. Then again, Microsoft haven't released any convincing PR to make me think otherwise.
All I can really say right now is congrats on getting number 1 Halo and Xbox.
Best wishes.
Katana_Strikes
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Leeh would be your man for that. But seeing as though you downloaded it you're probably one of his friends anyways
0 chance.
CosmicQueso
Member
A safe range for estimating digital is giving it 15-35% share of early sales. That's a big range, but will likely get you in the area.
Yoshi did great, actually. Given its stumbles, Nintendo is still one of the top publishers of the year in terms of software revenues and share. They're doing great at maximizing a small base.
Yoshi did great, actually. Given its stumbles, Nintendo is still one of the top publishers of the year in terms of software revenues and share. They're doing great at maximizing a small base.
slavesnyder
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Black friday will give a boost in sales, but not so much in revenue because of heavy discounts.
No way it will top any release numbers though.
Can you tell us which one of the three Japanese games bombed?