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Nvidia: PS4 specs are low end CPU and mid range GPU
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LiquidMetal14
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What is going on here....
It's a given that PS4 isn't high end. nvidia isn't educating anyone here. They are better off just shutting up since some people show up who are nvidia patriots and don't see things as clearly or have a definite slant.
I own 2 GPU's running in SLI and find the PS4 very impressive. I don't think nvidia saying what it says has any bearing considering the magic that Sony 1st party's pulled off on the gimped nvidia piece in PS3.
It's a given that PS4 isn't high end. nvidia isn't educating anyone here. They are better off just shutting up since some people show up who are nvidia patriots and don't see things as clearly or have a definite slant.
I own 2 GPU's running in SLI and find the PS4 very impressive. I don't think nvidia saying what it says has any bearing considering the magic that Sony 1st party's pulled off on the gimped nvidia piece in PS3.
Hmm yeah you are right I kinda forgot how old the HD6970 is atm. Time goes fast. :x
RurouniZel
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But how did "low to mid-end hardware" pull this off then?
Considering how high poly everything else is, the fact that the rope looks like a textured tube is really off-putting.
tinfoilhatman
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I get what he's saying but it still comes off sounding kinda childish, and yea 8gig's ram onboard mid range card by next year then right Nvidia?
Glass Rebel
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No, they overestimate the "money" AMD "makes"...
I would be more than willing to bet this isn't true at all.
1st Course
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The opposite actually IIRC.
Barack Lesnar
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...couldn't be farther from the truth. Check the Steam hardware surveys, a very VERY small % of people could run that or any of the other PS4 games shown at 60 fps @ 1080p. One thing I don't like is how everyone goes to the extreme and assumes a monster setup for all other PC gamers just because it's possible.
Gold_Loot
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I'm not super tech savy, but a dedicated game box can push hardware much better than a home PC.
I doubt a PC from 2005 with 512megs of totlal RAM can run something like KZ3 or the Uncharted games.. At ANY framerate.
damn, can't unsee
You could tell me another lie since you're so good at it. No PC games running on thes comparable cards look this good. None.
LiquidMetal14
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They are also underestimating how much the PS4 can do as we are already seeing some cynics nitpicking things to hell and back.
But, graphics are the only thing they really compete against. It's like when people post Nintendo company profits vs only the Microsoft Entertainment and Devices Division instead of the whole company numbers.
velociraptor
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Perhaps not every game, although I'll say it will hold up well against even Crysis 3.
I have a 6950 and the beta ran 60FPS 1080p at high settings, which is pretty remarkable IMO.
LabouredSubterfuge
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So games that are already out that could run at 1080p/30fps with a good number of graphics options turned up and PPAA which can certainly run on, say, a 7850? Remarkable
That's a convenient fence you've found.
mysteriousmage09
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Even though it's true, Nvidia really needs to shut the fuck up. We get it, a console that will retail for most likely $500 at best won't be as powerful as your mighty Titan that retails for the low price of 999 US dollars. And the CPU will be perfectly fine since every aspect of it will be able to utilized by developers how ever the hell they want due to the closed architecture, same goes for the graphics.
It's true yes, but should they be bitter because Sony or MS don't want to deal with them after all?
Also it's not like they would have done a better job?, seems to me like PS4 ( and xbox if rumors are true) is a nice power bump from last gen with interesting customizations that will produce very good looking games.
Serious question: was the RSX considered high end in 2005-6? I don't temember
Also it's not like they would have done a better job?, seems to me like PS4 ( and xbox if rumors are true) is a nice power bump from last gen with interesting customizations that will produce very good looking games.
Serious question: was the RSX considered high end in 2005-6? I don't temember
It's one big company, if one part of it loses money, they all do. Plus the console designs are an APU design, meaning a CPU / GPU combination.
Of course there's no actual way of knowing, im just assuming by looking at it (wich is hardly how it works, but it serves as an indication). There's games that look better, people can run those games at double the framerate, one would assume people could run that demo better than a PS4 could.
LiquidMetal14
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You do know certain tubes/ropes are used to haul things right? You are reaching too much on a little detail there.
The power!
iamvin22
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/thread. Spot Fucking on. Don't matter what card you have these days because of consoles.
And yes Nvidia U mad. Lol
RibbedHero
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AMD 2012
Computing: -$231m
Graphics: $105m, a small proportion of which was console graphics solutions.
Other (mainly handheld devices, research, IP, technology): -$930m
Hence why Nvidia is leaving the console graphics space, and focusing on the other stuff, something AMD would be wise to follow.
Not with Crysis 3 beta, it didn't. Unless you have some kind of magical 6950. A 6970 doesn't manage a solid 60fps either.
Castle Doctrine
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Wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia higher ups put the muffle on Timothy Lottes when he was praising the PS4. Guaranteed they made him erase that blog post.
phosphor112
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Care to address the issue with the post?
This. Everyone is trying to come in here and make it sound like Sony fans are calling Nvidia salty when this is the 2nd story is a manner of days from Nvidia talking about Sony or next gen consoles in some capacity. We know they are making money but continuously making snide comments makes you look extremely salty.
djplaeskool
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PJSalt
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lol? really?
Vermillion
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Lovely Salsa
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So could Nvidia do better if they made a contract with Sony?As far as I know their GPUs are power hungry
Majmun
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World of Warcraft and Minecraft.
Show me a PC that can pull off GoWA level of visuals (and the rest) with a GPU of less than 256MB and system RAM of less than 256MB (same thing with 360). A direct comparison isn't possible.
Specs exist on PC that can outdo anything a console will ever do. That's a fact. But the way nVidia is trying to portray it sounds like, as Phosphor112 previously mentioned, damage control.
I doubt they're salty about getting underbid by AMD considering the latter's financial state.
I've been building PCs for 8 years and midrange has generally referred to cards in the $200 range. Basically, capable cards that are a big step above the low end $50-$100 stuff but not up with the $400-$600 "enthusiast" cards. I think it's a bit subjective but saying a 7870 is "low-mid range" is completely ignoring the entire range of AMD 7xxx series cards and only focusing on 78xx and 79xx series.
Thanks for pointing that out lol. Still the game is in alfa and many month from releasing.
Barack Lesnar
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Assuming something like that doesn't favor your argument when the facts show the vast majority of PC gamers (Steam, not facebook or whatever) couldn't run KZ4, Drive Club, Infamous, that Capcom game, and whatever MS shows off with the 720, @ 1080p + 60 fps. You're using a very small % of market segment as the basis for your argument and applying that to the whole, when using the average would far more representative of reality.
A bit angry aren't you? Lol it's fine. No way the PS4 was going to dust a gaming PC man, no need to get all angry. Crysis 3 on PC does crap all over Killzone, its no't some made up fact. but PS4 will still get good games so it's fine.
And oh, I'd be willing to bet that its a bit more than 5% considering how many of those cards they sell.
Metalmurphy
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I thought the profit margins were actually very good, hence why both MS and Sony went for AMD this time.
LiquidMetal14
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It is and I want to defend or take a side with them but it's stupid to open your mouth on the subject.
If we think about what devs have done on PS3 with gimped HW we can only imagine with the leap in HW and memory that devs will be making some killer PS4 games. These are dedicated boxes here.
angular graphics
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You know it's from the same interview right? Nvidia do not go around talking about the PS4..
They might even post a part 3, I wouldn't be surprised, in their attempt to milk the interview as much as they can.
Funny how you forgot to mention that none of the big 3 wanted to work with nVidia if possible.
Castle Doctrine
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Yep, although in a later post he says he's getting a PS4 day one because of KZ:SF, but his comments are more toned down and general now.
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