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Obama ending policy granting residency to Cubans who enter USA without visas
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perfectchaos007
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Why don't you respect their feelings on this emotional subject? It just sounds like you're pro Cuban and anti Cuban-American. Both sides have their own good reasons to have strong feelings on this
That wouldn't have given Hillary Florida. You need to be a resident for at least five years to be naturalized, and naturalized immigrants are unlikely to vote.
Recent Cuban arrivals are a lot less likely to support Republicans anyway.
Unless we extend this policy to all people living in countries with repressive governments, there is no reason to give Cuban migrants such absurd preferential treatment. Absolutely none.
With all the discussion about immigration during the elections I'm surprised this was never brought up.
Ah yes, the good ol' "fuck you, I got mine" attitude. Cuban Americans truly are Republicans.
Ah yes, the good ol' "fuck you, I got mine" attitude. Cuban Americans truly are Republicans.
i assume you are also in favor of giving residency to all immigrants then as opposed to just cubans.
crisdecuba
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What the hell?
Electric Eye
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With all the discussion about immigration during the elections I'm surprised this was never brought up.
Ah yes, the good ol' "fuck you, I got mine" attitude. Cuban Americans truly are Republicans.
Well then they shouldn't mind getting in line like everyone else then right? I mean that's what they consistently vote for.
Way to generalize an entire community of people
2012 Cuban-American vote was 53% Obama, 47% Romney
2016 Cuban-American vote was 41% Clinton, 54% Trump.
The Cuban-Americans are not a monolith. NeoGAF is almost as embarrassing on the topic of Cuba as it is about Venezuela.
I can't tell. Are you being sarcastic?
I know what to think about this, it's awesome and long overdue. This is going to do two things:
1. Limit people risking their lives by rowing over here in a rickety boat.
2. Limit illegal smuggling of Cubans into the US.
Just off the top of my head.
Are immigrants from other countries fleeing a communist state where they will be imprisoned and God knows what else if sent back?
If so, yes.
I'm not american btw. I'm also from Latin America. I would never resent a Cuban for getting an "easy way" into America. If anyone resents Cubans because of that they're just ignorant.
I'm not and Obama's legacy regarding Cuba is embarrassing.
Darryl M R
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Ah I see.
Well the US does not allow everyone to come in so only allowing Cubans make zero sense. It's saying "These people are good, but not these people."
I have a good amount of Cuban-American friends that family may not like this but it makes sense. I'm sure this was a net positive but it wasn't a fair policy. Now with the table cleared hopefully we can get good and fair policies regarding fleeing immigrants.
Because it isn't fucking 1960 anymore. Cuba is a safe stable country now that is a growing ally of the United States.
Trojita
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Cuban Legend
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wtf? xD And you can go suck a bag of dicks.
Hahahaha oh wow. Ok,buddy.
Yes. Cuba. The beacon of progress.
I can't believe Fidel fucking won. lmao.
A lot has changed since the 1960's. We can trade with them again. We can travel there for vacations again. We have an embassy there.
We wouldn't have restored ties to this degree if Cuba was the communist dystopia some people imagine. Cuba is a growing ally of the USA.
Restablishing a friendship with Cuba will go down in history as one Obama's greatest achievements. You realize most in America APPROVED of the Obama Cuba policies right? It was a popular move that had majority support in polls. People here are smart enough to know the idea of people fleeing Cuba as if it some kind of danger in 2017 is pure fantasy.
Immagrating from Cuba is no different than immigrating from Europe, Brazil, etc and this policy change reflects that.
This sounds like a selfish view, to assume that Cuba is doing okay because you can finally get something out of it.
They aren't okay because we can trade with them, we trade with them because Cuba is okay. We established trade and travel with them because Cuba is no longer the country it was during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
IrishNinja
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honestly, it was long overdue - miami owes a lot to its cuban community, but it's always been shitty watching haitian & other 3rd world spots (often during points of political turmoil) denied, while this rule stood
if we're painting with a broad brush here....
i've absolutely seen this for most of my life, from both young & old (well, mostly old) cubans who don't seem to have much love for their immigrating countrymen. there's a lotta history here but while most of said community i've known has politically leaned right, the more they do so, the more that disdain seems to grow
if we're painting with a broad brush here....
i've absolutely seen this for most of my life, from both young & old (well, mostly old) cubans who don't seem to have much love for their immigrating countrymen. there's a lotta history here but while most of said community i've known has politically leaned right, the more they do so, the more that disdain seems to grow
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A lot of it is actually the same exact things that were there at the time; buildings, infrastructure, cars, even the current president.
Cuban Legend
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What are you talking about? Please help me understand...
Many Cubans who fled their country's communist government and gained asylum in the US did it because they were fleeing a country that oppressed them, or they were hoping to give themselves or their children a better hope for the future in the US. I mean, I came here in an Airplane in '92 with my family... because my family won a Visa Lottery, the rest of my family came over during the 80's thru Mariel, and after that in those human trafficking speed boats. Does it seem like a special privilege? I can see how it can seem that way...
But I see how unfair it has been for other immigrants to want the same freedoms as us, Haitians, Mexicans, Jamaicans, any caribbean island folks, etc. But also their countries aren't classified as a "communist regime" that had trade and tourist travel restrictions with the US, which played a huge part in why those who fled were classified as Cuban "refugees" and not "illegal immigrants".
Just know although I see the immigration difference I also recognize it doesn't mean others who arent Cubans don't have a good reason to escape their respective countries and seek residency here in the US to make a living for themselves and their children just like Cubans.
But people in this thread who are shitting on Cubans that escaped because others don't get to, or because some Cubans who are in FL vote a certain way? That IMO is crossing the line by generalizing country's inhabitants who've become a part of this country.
Yup. But crazy that Republicans were for Cubans escaping Castro for a better life in the US and being granted residency just for crossing the border but then being vehemently against Mexicans or Guatemalans eacaping the cartel or poverty and crossing the border for a better life themselves.
Going forward, it seems America is finally restoring normal relations with Cuba.
Hear hear.
Big Green Anus
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Good to hear this.
Cybrwzrd
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Anecdote time. I have business dealings with a Cuban owned company in Miami. All of the management there are Cuban immigrants. Naturally during the meeting they had to bring up Trump, and how they wanted a wall built to keep Mexicans out.
I just had to smile and nod as I was negotiating with them for better prices.
Douche McBaggins The 3rd
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That water wall just got ten feet higher. It's going to make a tidal wave and block those cubans. It'll be a powerful water wall and go to California and send much needed water to their crops. It will be beautiful. Believe me. So much water will happen in California because of this water wall that everyone will get tired of water. Believe me.
j0hnnix
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As a Cuban American whose family came to this country, worked our asses off, and made something of ourselves for the past 50+ years. You can go right along and burn in hell you racist piece of dog shit. People like you are completely ignorant of other culture's struggles.
I look forward to the day the Trump administration votes your rights away, your privileges, and your freedoms. So when you look around in desperation for any kind of hope I can look you in the eye and tell you to Go fuck yourself.
Darryl M R
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Is it now? What was the slur?
I'm not even arguing that the comment wasn't harsh. But your post is also interesting to me.
As a member of Florida's Cuban community, what the fuck is your problem?
It was an inflammatory epithet aimed at an ethnicity
CraigerGamer
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Haitians everywhere rejoice.
Douche McBaggins The 3rd
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Those shots are going to be limper than bushes hand shake. Trump destroyed them with his first grade education and his tiny fists of doubt. They gonna say words? Trumps gonna lay the smack down on their candy asses with his mark ass tricks. Trick ass marks skip skaps and scallywags.
Wow that depressed the fuck out of me. They lost to someone who would fail first grade. Dear god. Wow this depressed me. Even Dwayne Elizondo mountain dew herbert had more of a vocabulary than trump. I need something to cheer me up.
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