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Phil Spencer: Scorpio will have a console price point, not compete with high-end rigs
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LightOfTruth
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Predicting $399. Guessing Sony will drop the Pro to $349 beforehand.
UpUpDownDown
Member
So....
Under a thousand?
Under a thousand?
No way that happens. The Scorpio would be dead on arrival at that price.
Bl@de
Member
I agree. A high end price for 6TF in late 2017 would be a joke. Everything above 399 is too much in my opinion.
Are we doing the faux confusing thing again? Besides being vague...nothing has been contradictory.
I don't get why the keep bringing up price if they're not ready to announce the price, it just fuels more speculation. I'm sure part of it is that interviewers are asking about it but they could easily stick to a "we will announce the price at a later date" and be done with it. Giving vague allusions to price range doesn't seem helpful. I mean he says it's going to have a console price point? I doubt many people seriously thought that it wouldn't, seeing as how it's a console.
BigTnaples
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Hasn't he said this like 8 times in almost imperceivabley different ways?
It will cost a premium, but wont be crazy overpriced..
I don't understand why each statement gets its own thread... Unless I am missing something.
But what do I care? I am probably going to buy it regardless of price. The Pro has started something great.
It will cost a premium, but wont be crazy overpriced..
I don't understand why each statement gets its own thread... Unless I am missing something.
But what do I care? I am probably going to buy it regardless of price. The Pro has started something great.
Jaguar confirmed.
I think $499, at least right now, is realistic. If Sony drops the price of the Pro next year I could see $399 being a base SKU, with $449 being the more compelling SKU.
I really feel like Sony is going to decide the price of Scorpio, unless Microsoft plans a VERY heavy marketing push with the additional power being worth $100 more.
I really feel like Sony is going to decide the price of Scorpio, unless Microsoft plans a VERY heavy marketing push with the additional power being worth $100 more.
Sword Of Doom
Member
If the extra power results in better performance and IQ for every game then it would be a good price point. The problem with the pro is that it's too limited a console for a pro device. I have a feeling all games on the Scorpio will benefit even without patches like a PC
SEGAvangelist
Member
I do think we'll see 4K 60fps games (FM7, KI patch etc...), but I doubt we see a ton of them. I think we'll see a lot of 4K dynamic resolution games that will eventually be 4K all of the time on whatever console comes after Scorpio. MS seems to be setting themselves up for the future with most of the their decisions lately.
Alpha Phoenix
Member
Yup.
chromatic9
Member
Hmm, I seem to recall Balance being used for XBO. Jaguar incoming?
He says "hey, remember the new Xbox coming!" That's why he continually pops up to say jackshit nothing. Pick away at Sony at the low end with firesale price Xbone S deals and endlessly muse about the magic of the Scorpio that is all things to all people to try and keep the high end away from Sony.
dragonyeuw
Member
And no company currently in the console business, Sony included, would dream of introducing that pricetag again. $499 is probably the highest SKU with a 2TB drive for power users. 500/1TB models will likely be available in the $399/449 range. PS4pro will be $299-$349 easily next holiday season 2017, and the xbox one slim/ps4 slim $199-249. Scorpio at $399-499 will be 'premium' pricing compared to the other market offerings at the time of release.
If there's a $599 'power' SKU, it will be bundled with the elite controller.
marcbret87
Member
Maybe you are ready to pay this, but I doubt many others are. It's a console after all, not high end gaming PC.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
They use "balance" since beginning, not saying you're wrong of course.
Let's wait and see.
If the console is powerful enough there is no reason not to achieve 4K 60 FPS.
Metalingus5150
Member
Forza games, will probably hit that. I wouldn't expect a large amount of 4k 60 fps. lol
SneakersSO
Member
I think they'll go $499 with the Scorpio, keep the X1S at either $249 or $200, and let the free market decide which direction they'll go. They'll probably keep the X1S at $200 and just continually lower the Scorpio's price.
Either way, X1S has really great marketing & word of mouth - dropping that entirely would be a huge mistake.
Either way, X1S has really great marketing & word of mouth - dropping that entirely would be a huge mistake.
Thanks for the answers, the second post I understand, but the first post I find annoying (not you particularly but the idea) because personally I would rather pay the same price as an iPhone for a decently powered console, though going by the replies in this thread, I'm in the minority on this one.
Maximilian Kolbe
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Or maybe this is one of his Q&A from interview, the interview is about many things, Scorpio is just one of them.
http://www.ausgamers.com/features/read/3564591
Or you think Phil shouldn't answer anything at all?
Samurai G0SU
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so two months or so until we have the Scorpio reveal? wish it happened this year 
General Lee
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Depends greatly on what other innards it has besides the GPU. 12 GB GDDR5 seems likely, and those might fit in a 399$ price if they're still using Jaguar and a slow HDD. Honestly though, if it comes out with Jaguar, even slightly improved over Pro, it's a waste of time in my opinion. If it comes with at least Excavator cores or preferrably Zen, that could be worth 499$. It does sound like though they're not going too crazy with it so I don't think we'll see an SSD as a default option. Maybe next refresh cycle we'll finally move on from mechanical drives.
marcbret87
Member
It's good that Sony priced the Pro at $399, because it basically forces MS to not price this above $500, as it's likely that the console from Sony will be $349 by next year. I don't think they were going to anyway, but this pressure is good for consumers.
This are exactly my thoughts. A $399 option and I am there day one, even if they push it to $429 I would. At $499 not so sure.
It will be, but people won't care much about it.
If it were that big a gap from the PS4, it won't be that big a gap from the Pro and Pro will be cheaper by then. People will most likely opt to go for Pro at that point.
If they can tout 60 fps on everything but if the price difference between Scorpio and Pro will be $50-$100, plus tax effectively making it $80-$120 depending on where you live? People will go for Pro over Scorpio, and at that point in time Sony can offer bundles with Pro. Microsoft will probably bundle some old game with it, or newer game for $449.
Filthy Casual
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Just make it good.
An rx480 can only hit 4k60 on a handful of modern games and even then that's with settings considerably lowered.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Pretty much.
Am I going crazy or is it from the same website everytime (ausgamers)? Are they holding weekly fucking interviews with them or something? Or maybe when they were in Australia they sent like 10 different reporters to interview them and ask the same questions over and over.
i think $499 seems likely. if they're smart they'll maybe eat some losses for the sake of sales and match the current Pro launch price (although by that point the pro may have a reduced price?). any more than $500 and it'll price itself out of the market.
We'll call it an assist
Sorry this is off topic, but LMAO at your tag. I moused over it and it gets worse and worse and worse
$499 absolute max. They'd have learned from the launch PS3 debacle, and stay well south of it.
$399 if they're willing to take a hit for the first year until profitable. Because of the large XB1 base, breaking even may come way sooner than previous launches.
I'm personally going with $429.99 because I feel they may milk first adopters a little, on launch, before reducing price very shortly after launch.
$399 if they're willing to take a hit for the first year until profitable. Because of the large XB1 base, breaking even may come way sooner than previous launches.
I'm personally going with $429.99 because I feel they may milk first adopters a little, on launch, before reducing price very shortly after launch.
MrFrankFontaine
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Give me split screen for Halo 6 with all that power and I'll replace my Xbox Ones and buy 2.
I do like the idea of Microsoft really pushing to have the best hardware. Even if you are strictly a PlayStation or Nintendo supporter, this is good for consumers as it drives competition. Same reason I'm excited to see how the Nintendo Switch sales perform.
I do like the idea of Microsoft really pushing to have the best hardware. Even if you are strictly a PlayStation or Nintendo supporter, this is good for consumers as it drives competition. Same reason I'm excited to see how the Nintendo Switch sales perform.
SEGAvangelist
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Maybe a solid state hybrid drive upgrade?
hoogafanter
Banned
I want one but just bought an s... i'll wait until it seems worth it to grab one like i did with the s lmfao...