BananasWithGuns
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Phil Spencer: Some reviewers give games low scores to get more clicks
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Garrett 2U
Member
That is not really what he said, but outrage is always lovely.
It seems to me he's talking about a FH3 review anyways, not Recore.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-head-phil-spencer-talks-scorpio-ps4-pro-4k-re/1100-6444198/
It seems to me he's talking about a FH3 review anyways, not Recore.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-head-phil-spencer-talks-scorpio-ps4-pro-4k-re/1100-6444198/
Yeah, he's very clearly talking about the 4/10 for FH3.
justsomeguy
Member
The exact quote is in the article behind - I've edited it into my post. OP you might want to add the quote into the OP?
But it's Mega Man meets Metroid Prime.
GhostTrick
Banned
Yeah, I'm sure ReCore was the perfect game to get more clicks with harsh reviews.
It was so anticipated and hyped.
It was so anticipated and hyped.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Oh, he was talking about a 3/10 review.
Thought he was talking about the sixes, which sounded about right for the level of bugs it had
Thought he was talking about the sixes, which sounded about right for the level of bugs it had
Nah scroll down there's more, but I don't think he's speaking about Recore specifically. It sounds more about FH3 than anything.
Here is the quote they're talking about
It's almost as if this thread title was made just to get more clicks.
C
Contica
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, I'd say this is a good example of why watching a game being played isnot comparable to actually playing it yourself. I can't think of anything more boring than watching someone play a game, no matter the game.
ReCore is a fantastic game, and repetitive is very far from the word I'd use. It has brilliant mechanics, and they're put to use in a lot of really cool and varied ways.
What it lacks is that it could be a bit better at pushing you out there to explore, and some nasty bugs should have been fixed. Loading never bothered me much since I hardly ever died. Play it on a decent PC and it's a non-issue.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Not like this Phil.
Edit: Misquote?
Edit: Misquote?
Stillmatic
Member
You get fanatics of this type from every corner of the world, from sports to politics. Guy singles out PS fans like they're in a separate catergory lol.
heh
That's fanbois though it happens on all sides, check tweeter right now and it will be filled with Xbox fanbois tweeting the bad bits of PSVR reviews etc it's the way fanbois work, he's being a bit precious there I bet shu gets enough shit daily on twitter, it's filled with dicks.
Perfect.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I haven't seen anyone give Recore a below average score among the reviews I've watched.
Maybe this is why we received a demo?
Maybe this is why we received a demo?
Oh yeah, reviewers surely scored it lower just to bait the huge ReCore community to click their articles.
Is this the first time a prominent person in the industry like Spencer actually alluded to the "reviewers are scoring bad for clicks" excuse? Only seen salty fans on GAF say it before lol
Is this the first time a prominent person in the industry like Spencer actually alluded to the "reviewers are scoring bad for clicks" excuse? Only seen salty fans on GAF say it before lol
Garrett 2U
Member
If you're going to put a quote in the title, make sure it's an actual quote and not one person's interpretation of a very different quote.
What about the padding and abrupt ending? The game felt like ms should've allowed them a few more months of dev time.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Ah, okay. That's a bit lower than I'd expected.
EDIT - I was getting it mixed up with Quantum Break, which is high 70s.
I think the game looks interesting and had a good premise, as well as some slick trailers. It seems like it's mostly technical issues which hindered the final product.
Ah okay, that's a bit shitty of Gamespot. Unless he inferred the same about Recore outside of the interview, he's clearly talking about Forza Horizon there.
intheinbetween
Member
I think a mod should change the title of this thread, Phil was talking about the FH3 review, not Recore
Linking to the interview and quoting the actual statement would have been preferable.
Caayn
Member
Perfect title change.
So he's saying he doesn't want to influence fanboy behaviour from the Xbox side while calling out Playstation fanboys for being stupid pricks at twitter. Sure Phil... what a dumb comment coming from someone in your position.
But hey the mask had to come off some day, and it did today...
This thread is goin places...
PrivateRyan
Member
The sad thing is there will be drive-by posts having a go at Phil or saying "lmao" or whatever based on the thread title, and that's what they'll take away from this and regurgitate in the future. Happened with Inafune apparently saying "better than nothing" about Mighty No 9 when it wasn't actually his quote and I still see that getting brought up.
FinaruDensetsu
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Something else I can't really reconcile is that I'm almost certain Major Nelson, Greenberg, and Spencer himself are rather chummy with Tim Dog and other people like him and even invite them to events and give them free things.
"not something he supports or entertains"? I think they "entertain" those guys quite often?
pretty well in this day and age is anything over 80. everything under is usually considered "garbage".
I don't think like that, but I've seen that kind of mindset even here on neogaf.
Toadthemushroom
Member
Yeah, if you're using an interpretation from a secondary source it preferably needs to be fact-checked against the original source or at least analysed before being posted.
The problem with not doing that isn't just that you get confused posts below the OP, but a bunch of people on social media taking the topic's headline for granted, posting their thought on that headline, which then gets shared and so on. Which is equivalent to commenting before even reading down the thread itself, itself equivalent to posting without checking the source. It's a vicious cycle.
C
Contica
Unconfirmed Member
More time would have been nice, but mostly for bug purposes. It didn't feel padded at all to me, probably since I went out into the world and got hooked on finding things pretty early on. If your goal is to finish it fast, then yeah, I see how it could be annoying, which is what I mean when I say the game could have done a better job at getting you out into the world to explore.
I never met that "wall" near the end because I had already collected everything I needed.
VoltySquirrel
Member
It doesn't matter if he was referring to a 6 for ReCore or a 4 for Forza Horizon 3. Whether some publications do deliberately rate low for notoriety or not, you shouldn't be pulling this shit in the press. Especially considering that even if this were happening, it's probably some no name outlet you've never and will never hear of that pays it's 17 year old writers in review copies. If that.
TheSpoiler
Member
Opinions?
Oh shit I didn't even look at what I posted.
Oh shit I didn't even look at what I posted.
"I don't have more fun with my Xbox based on the review scores of games that are on PlayStation, or vice versa. If you have an Xbox, I want to ship great games for you and have you have a great time on that console," he added. "And that is our focus, right there. It's not about what somebody else is out there doing with their platform. I know there's pockets in every community, I'm not saying Xbox is completely clean here, but as much as I have any influence on it at all, that's not something I will support or entertain. Sorry, that's just something I needed to get out."
how does that offend you?
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Even if he thinks it he shouldn't say it.
But it's interesting he chose this game to say it about because the consensus on this game seems to be that the reviewers definitely got it wrong.
It's a far better game than the metacritic average suggests.
But it's interesting he chose this game to say it about because the consensus on this game seems to be that the reviewers definitely got it wrong.
It's a far better game than the metacritic average suggests.
Ban Puncher
Member
You gonna call out Jeff Gerstmann and his MIXLR next, Phil?
Bits N Pieces
Member
His quote was taken out of context. He was lamenting ReCore not scoring well, but what he said was "Three or four
I mean somebody gave Forza Horizon 3 a four. I think there's certain reviews that are written more to get clicked on than they are to actually accurately reflect the quality of the game, and that kind of bums me out."
I think it's fine to call out an outlier. The publication who posted that review was quick to go to their twitter and try to promote it with "Warning: Opinions Ahead!" or something. They were trying to milk it for all it was worth.
I think it's fine to call out an outlier. The publication who posted that review was quick to go to their twitter and try to promote it with "Warning: Opinions Ahead!" or something. They were trying to milk it for all it was worth.
I mean, I'm certain that some "outlets" (mostly smaller ones at a guess) do score games with an eye towards increasing traffic, but I doubt that kind of thing had any real impact on Recore's reception.
Recore is great by the way, and everyone can give it a try now that there's a free trial/demo available.
Recore is great by the way, and everyone can give it a try now that there's a free trial/demo available.
wapplew
Member
If only we have the "prove it" ticket. "Well" is very subjective.
VoltySquirrel
Member
It's also relative to a games budget. A Call of Duty game selling 2 million copies and a Sniper Elite game selling 2 million copies are two very different things.
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