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Pokémon X and Y will not receive a patch for compatibility with ORAS's new Megas
- Thread starter Exterminieren
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ArchedThunder
Banned
No, he's assuming while not understanding anything about programming. They will undoubtedly be usable against XY players, they just won't have their Mega models. It's as easy as the game sending a few variables to the other game, it's basic shit.
Seriously why isn't there more outrage about this? This is so dumb.I can't be black in ORAS? Not even dark skinned like in XY?
Whhyyyyyyy
My trainer was the darkest skin available in XY and I really loved him
same here
Some games have more than a few but even then the new Mega Pokemon are just incentives to get people to buy the new game. Most companies aren't going to completely cater to people who bought last year's game and just let them trade for or hack the game for everything new when they could do things like this.
There are a couple things to consider:
Don't be surprised if XY do receive an update accommodating the new Mega Evolutions and mechanic changes in 2015 -- and potentially even add-on content for its unresolved issues. Of all new Mega Evolutions, what makes it rational to include Mega Lati@s in XY in first place? Plus, it makes sense to eventually only have one Gen 6 League. It'll be a problem to maintain two of them, come Gen 7.
- XY and ORAS have a separate online League
- There are still unresolved Kalos/XY subplots (like Zygarde, Sea Spirit's Den and AZ's Floette)
- Every Legendary Pokémon exists either in XY or in ORAS
Don't be surprised if XY do receive an update accommodating the new Mega Evolutions and mechanic changes in 2015 -- and potentially even add-on content for its unresolved issues. Of all new Mega Evolutions, what makes it rational to include Mega Lati@s in XY in first place? Plus, it makes sense to eventually only have one Gen 6 League. It'll be a problem to maintain two of them, come Gen 7.
Since when was cross-game play a major feature of the CoD series?
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Too bad competitive battling will be moving to ORAS rules next year.
Exterminieren
Banned
Red and Blue weren't made obsolete after a year.
Pff. You'll be asked to shell out for two new games and like it.
Please tell me what you would do with your pokemon in X and Y. If you're going to buy OR/AS then just transfer your pokemon from X and Y to OR/A . If you're not going to buy OR/AS then you won't have megas to transfer back so its a non-problem. I don't see the outrage, sorry.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Wait, why is it expected that Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire be compatible with X & Y?
I am unfamiliar with the situation revolving around semi annual Pokémon releases.
I am unfamiliar with the situation revolving around semi annual Pokémon releases.
SerTapTap
Member
The shit thing? Pokemon bank won't accept mega stones, so your megas are basically trapped. Mechanics for Mega pokemon are super shitty ATM.
They are the same gen sharing the same pokemon, the remakes are built right off the engine of the new games of the gen too. You can trade between diamond and heart gold no problem.
Gillian Seed
Banned
When was it confirmed that we are not getting trainer customization in ORAS?
Paper Sparrow
Member
This and no player customization is freaking disappointing.
Expected, but still disappointing.
Sometimes I wish Game Freak would show a little more ambition...
Expected, but still disappointing.
Sometimes I wish Game Freak would show a little more ambition...
Wouldn't such a patch break compatibility with unpatched X/Y versions? I think they value compatibility among different version of the same game higher than compatibility to a follow-up.
The lack of player customization is a real shame, though. No idea why they just cut features like that.
The lack of player customization is a real shame, though. No idea why they just cut features like that.
If they're cross-compatible, then this is pretty stupid. So they're going to use the RBY <-> GSC method? They should at least keep the games on par every generation in my opinion if they are and will be.
And there's no character customization? That was one of the things I was looking forward to try out, considering I passed on X/Y. Dammit Game Freak.
And there's no character customization? That was one of the things I was looking forward to try out, considering I passed on X/Y. Dammit Game Freak.
FTFY
Zomba13
Member
I think people comparing this to being unable to use formes in previous versions need to take note that we can patch games this time around with the 3DS that we couldn't on the DS.
Also, to solve the problem of trading new items to the old game and deleting the patch just have it set up so if pokemon is holding x item from a list of the new items then they can't be traded or downloaded via pokemon bank on x/y. A new patch would be able to add info for the new attacks and mega evolutions and also bar the items from coming down.
Or, you know, don't bother patching the game. At least they patched the game breaking save bug in the big city.
Also, to solve the problem of trading new items to the old game and deleting the patch just have it set up so if pokemon is holding x item from a list of the new items then they can't be traded or downloaded via pokemon bank on x/y. A new patch would be able to add info for the new attacks and mega evolutions and also bar the items from coming down.
Or, you know, don't bother patching the game. At least they patched the game breaking save bug in the big city.
RBY = Gen 1, GSC = Gen 2.
Both XY and ORAS are the same gen. You'd think the Pokemon would be fully compatible with each game.
Maybe they'll drop Pokemon Z next year that is fully compatible with ORAS
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
the statement isn't exactly clear
but I read it more as you can fight ORAS Megas like how BW can fight BW2 forms, but you can't catch/have them in XY
Did remakes ever introduce new monsters before? After all, that's what happening here.
DragonKnight
Member
In before posts about self entitled gamers complaining about GF being lazy, etc.
Oops. I see im much too late.
No fucks given. My only qualms with gamefreak is that i how much the second installment outclasses the first release in a gen.
Oops. I see im much too late.
No fucks given. My only qualms with gamefreak is that i how much the second installment outclasses the first release in a gen.
SerTapTap
Member
Uh, depending on how significant these megas change the metagame this is potentially pretty damn weird for that too. They've never bothered with a "remake gen" ruleset have they?
When did that happen? And even then I doubt its the same thing.
That has more to do with gen 5 not having a remake. Next year they're going to change the rules for sure.
The only logical thing they could do. Nobody is gonna play a remake when every new feature can be obtained in the previous game through online trading. It's really fucking unethical, but it's the only they'll get people to buy this game.
Not interested. Might've considered if they improved upon character customisation or the battle engine but alas. Guess I'm sticking to the old metagame when I get my pokefix.
Not interested. Might've considered if they improved upon character customisation or the battle engine but alas. Guess I'm sticking to the old metagame when I get my pokefix.
Exterminieren
Banned
Please explain how attacks and abilities with effects that aren't programmed into X and Y will work. I'm genuinely interested.
SerTapTap
Member
Mega stones can't be traded, battling online is a nice plus, but it is absolutely not "every new feature"
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Move legality mostly, since stat changes and such don't really happen mid-gen, but learnable movesets/ability availability do.
Even with that, games would have hidden data files of those.
So far only BW2 are the games where the new forms of certain mons weren't available in BW.
Same way how they'd load original Megas I reckon.
Also I find it weird that we don't have Mega Diancie data in XY yet it debuted at the same time as Diancie.
VGC rules always shift to exclusively the latest game.
Not really, but GameFreak didn't have the means to patch the games back then. Not sure why the need for progress applies to every developer except them.
I can't be black in ORAS? Not even dark skinned like in XY?
Whhyyyyyyy
My trainer was the darkest skin available in XY and I really loved him
Wow. What the fuck?
Orniletter
Banned
The Link content was paid DLC (and it was quite expensive at that with the equivalent of irc 27$ in Japan) and you have to pay for it in Europe too.
Joe raises a fair point.
Edit: No player customization is disappointing though for those who want to play as a trainer with a different skin colour. Hmm.
Portugeezer
Member
Ok, I didn't expect it to get a patch.
I can't be black in ORAS? Not even dark skinned like in XY?
Whhyyyyyyy
My trainer was the darkest skin available in XY and I really loved him
This is what's really making me mad. The lack of skin colours doesn't effect me but it's insane that they can not only exclude darker skin tones but outright remove them from the game after they'd already been added previously! I refuse to believe it would be that difficult to add customisation back in considering the system is already in place and the game runs on the exact same engine as X/Y. It's pure laziness and I really do not want to give Game Freak my money for half baked games.
ARGH sorry. forgot that i paid some yen for the update to fantasy life Link!
mea culpa
Yes. Sorry.
What? This is how the entire series has worked up until this point. You didn't need HGSS if you had Diamond/Pearl/Platinum, you only needed to find somebody who owned them to get their legendaries, and they both sold fine.