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PUBG Developer BlueHole bans a person for allegedly "stream sniping"
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Game is still selling very well? No
WhateverItTakes
Banned
Seems pretty unfair considering a popular streamer has an army of monsters that would spam report at any slight. And the amount of people streaming PUBG at any one time legit being able to streamsnipe would be impressive in itself.
| Praxis |
Banned
This.
giancarlo123x
Banned
Extremely, and it will continue to sell even more when the console versions come out.
Yeah bro super obvious, so obvious your explanation as to why was clear as well.
Imp the Dimp
Member
Back when I played Dota 2 and queued into people named after their Twitch account, I turned on my iPad, booted up their stream and STREAM SNIPED.
Not really an option for a game that relies on streaming as its primary marketing.
Oh sure, I never implied the opposite. It just createst this needlessly hostile relationship between the devs and GAF/reddit/whoever else.
You rascal!
giancarlo123x
Banned
Robin64
Member
They take the risk. They don't have to stream, nobody is putting a gun to their head.
Vital Tundra
Member
I don't think that's proof either. Being very "obvious" isn't a valid reason.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
This may be cheating, but it seems really clever to me.
It's screen cheating over the net. Cool.
It's screen cheating over the net. Cool.
The Last One
Member
Damn so streamers can just call for ban because they think they're being stream sniped and don't even need to prove it? Pathetic.
Norwegian_Imposter
Member
Robin64
Member
Can't upset the precious streamers.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
That is not how it works
It's cheating. There's a lot of people here who are ok with cheating. Don't want banned, don't cheat.
In fact it's even dumber because there's no way for anyone to prove it unless you actually admit it. So who plays a board game, cheats, and then brags about it to everyone you're playing with right after? Why would you want to play a competitive game with that guy? What a scummy garbage game player.
In fact it's even dumber because there's no way for anyone to prove it unless you actually admit it. So who plays a board game, cheats, and then brags about it to everyone you're playing with right after? Why would you want to play a competitive game with that guy? What a scummy garbage game player.
On topic.
I see this as a very odd situation where the dev should explain and make a campaign about the risks and limitations for streamers and players.
Even more after have, you know, the possibility of linking your twitch account to your character which seems like just a tool. To track you and your activity more easily in exchange for ugly goodies.
I see this as a very odd situation where the dev should explain and make a campaign about the risks and limitations for streamers and players.
Even more after have, you know, the possibility of linking your twitch account to your character which seems like just a tool. To track you and your activity more easily in exchange for ugly goodies.
Robin64
Member
That is exactly 100% entirely how it works. You do not have to stream your gameplay.
It's their rules and they already have it stated that it is a bananable offense.
Portugeezer
Member
Some people stream for a living. Basically their job.
I am more interested in how the developer ascertained that the other person was sniping.
Retro Edge
Member
And i thought it can't get worse as the bans in Friday the 13th.
ElfArmy177
Member
It's technically cheating.. isn't it?
giancarlo123x
Banned
How do you prove something like that?
If you also put your own rules and impose them you are not only getting free marketing but also players will take the game more seriously and it won't become a hell hole full of roundabouts to take advantage of other players.
That means the game can grow and get more players who has the same chances than veterans so it will keep growing.
It's a win win situation for the dev team.
Tajaz2426
Psychology PhD from Wikipedia University
Boy, back in the day I would have loved to ban some friends and heck probably myself for screen-peaking.
I think stream-peaking on sniping, is a little bit too much effort to do for a video game. Im not understanding what folks are gaining by doing this. Do folks actually take playing games this serious?
It seems a little bit too much for adults to do and quite pathetic to embarrass yourself by having to do this. As a kid with screen-peaking I can understand, as you are right there on the same screen, but this is deliberate.
However, banning someone with no evidence is worse than the supposed offense. Just my opinion, of course.
I think stream-peaking on sniping, is a little bit too much effort to do for a video game. Im not understanding what folks are gaining by doing this. Do folks actually take playing games this serious?
It seems a little bit too much for adults to do and quite pathetic to embarrass yourself by having to do this. As a kid with screen-peaking I can understand, as you are right there on the same screen, but this is deliberate.
However, banning someone with no evidence is worse than the supposed offense. Just my opinion, of course.
Skyfireblaze
Member
I pretty much agree with this, plus matchmaking in PUBG is random isn't it? So wouldn't that make the possibility of being in a session with a streamer impossible to influence?
I have to say though the whole thought of stream-sniping in itself seems really petty on the one who's doing it.
ClosingADoor
Member
Paying for a game, then getting banned because some other dude wants to show his gameplay to the world. There is zero proof possible to support the ban. Ridiculous.
Snkfanatic
Banned
Just about to post a joke along these lines. Not really sure why so many find it so hard to understand.
I can understand it, I do not support it but if you are good and engaging while streaming and get some good moments and kills, it's more likely to grow on the platform and end up getting money out of it. Even if you don't stream you get BP in base of your performance to buy crates that can contain rare clothing items that you can sell for real money.
At the end of the day is all about sweet cash.
They try to join the game / server at the same time as the streamer. It works.
Retro Edge
Member
Pathetic, if you're pubically streaming your game you shouldn't expect someone not to use that against you. I mean, you can't even proove that someone watched your stream to find your location in the first place.
Not surprised tho, most streamers are babies and devs always suck up to them.
Not surprised tho, most streamers are babies and devs always suck up to them.
ghostwritingduck
Member
Goldeneye screen peaking is different because every player had the same opportunity to see the location of the other.
The developer has an interest in protecting streamers, but enforcing this is dangerous unless they are only going after clear cases. I do think the location tracking of players could be a very strong indicator in some cases though.
The developer has an interest in protecting streamers, but enforcing this is dangerous unless they are only going after clear cases. I do think the location tracking of players could be a very strong indicator in some cases though.
Well, the issue here is that H1Z1 and PUBG are very 'slow' games that depend a lot on hiding your position, and there's no respawning. So not even a 30 second delay would really help you in that case - as opposed to, say, mobas, faster paced FPS or even RTS.
In other games, the information you're getting from stream sniping is far less valuable and the consequences far less dramatic.
In 30 seconds you'll be half way across the map to gank someone in dota, same goes for counterstrike or Overwatch. - not so much in PUBG, where, unless you were sprinting towards the safe zone, you'll likely be rather stationary within that delay.
I don't think you should be banned without proof, though. And i don't think they can really prove whether or not you did watch a certain streamer at a certain time.
But i also don't agree with the sentiment of "if you're streaming your screen, tough luck" - while it's definitely part of the game, i do feel that someone visibly stream sniping (like messaging you in twitch chat, boasting about them being able to track you) is definitely banworthy. - it's harassment, and also detrimental to the streamers broadcast.
Still, innocent until proven guilty.
In other games, the information you're getting from stream sniping is far less valuable and the consequences far less dramatic.
In 30 seconds you'll be half way across the map to gank someone in dota, same goes for counterstrike or Overwatch. - not so much in PUBG, where, unless you were sprinting towards the safe zone, you'll likely be rather stationary within that delay.
I don't think you should be banned without proof, though. And i don't think they can really prove whether or not you did watch a certain streamer at a certain time.
But i also don't agree with the sentiment of "if you're streaming your screen, tough luck" - while it's definitely part of the game, i do feel that someone visibly stream sniping (like messaging you in twitch chat, boasting about them being able to track you) is definitely banworthy. - it's harassment, and also detrimental to the streamers broadcast.
Still, innocent until proven guilty.
Not with this they don't. They get how pandering to streamers will sell more copies and that's about it.
Diprosalic
Banned
how the fuck do you even find out that you're in the game session of a streamer? do you see names anywhere? do people know the names of streamers?
edit: ok i read it, seems like a massive coincidence.
edit: ok i read it, seems like a massive coincidence.