plagiarize
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they look so much better when you play them 1:1 though. don't tell me you're one of those crazy people who stretches 4:3 content 'so you aren't wasting the full size of your screen'.
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Rumor: ACIV: Black Flag is sub-1080p on Xbox One
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they look so much better when you play them 1:1 though. don't tell me you're one of those crazy people who stretches 4:3 content 'so you aren't wasting the full size of your screen'.
ChainsawFilms
Member
Well technically, the PS4 is "better" - only joking.... not really....I think there is something more to the resolution debate. It's that, after 8 years, we're looking at a console that, in terms of resolution, isn't doing a whole lot more [than last gen]. This time last year, the notion that either console wouldn't support Full HD was preposterous. You'd get laughed at.
Now we're looking at another 5 to 8 years sub 1080p resolution. That's appalling. For me, that's not acceptable.
And then to top it all off, we're getting the PR Spin, the lack of journalist integrity, and being treated like blind idiots who can't see the difference.
From my perspective, anyone buying the XBone needs to just accept the resolution (as many are now doing - where's that 5 Stages chart when you need it). It's not likely to get much better due to the architecture. CBOAT himself has said as much. Accept Halo isn't going to hit 1080.
Resolution isn't everything, but it's a key component in the visual nature of video games. To dismiss this is unwise. More power to the people who genuinely don't care - as long as they're genuine and not trying to fool themselves.
cpp_is_king
Member
No, that's a fine reason to buy it. But that has nothing to do with my point. 720p and 1080p are different, it's that simple. If that doesn't bother you, then that's great. There's nothing wrong with it not bothering you. 30fps vs 60fps, for example, doesn't bother me, although resolution does.
My point is that saying that "oh it's upscaled" is just a silly argument. It's like when Ninja Theory said that DmC had the "feel of 60fps". It's meaningless garbage meant to hide the fact that it's graphically inferior. It just is. Again, everyone values different things and I'm not saying your opinion or your choice is inferior. Just that in one particular area, the console itself clearly is. On areas that matter to you, apparently it isn't. That's how things are supposed to work.
In the scheme of things, it doesn't. It's a shame its not 1080p but that's the way it is. So long as the framerate is stable at the lowered resolution I don't have an issue.
There goes another one...
Hahahaha
The main thing that I think is getting missed in these debates is that the only comparable games at launch are cross generational multiplats and the Xbox One can't hit 1080p on these.
What happens when we start getting true next gen games? You know that there will be 900p and 720p games on PS4 eventually, how will these games perform on Xbox One?
What happens if the Occulus Rift takes off and Sony and MS come out with VR headsets of their own or OR support and the quality of a game on PS4 for each eye on the stereoscopic headset matches the quality of an Xbox One game on a TV?
I am not a tech expert by any means but IMO I could easily see the gap in IQ between the two consoles getting larger and a lot more significant than it is right now.
What happens when we start getting true next gen games? You know that there will be 900p and 720p games on PS4 eventually, how will these games perform on Xbox One?
What happens if the Occulus Rift takes off and Sony and MS come out with VR headsets of their own or OR support and the quality of a game on PS4 for each eye on the stereoscopic headset matches the quality of an Xbox One game on a TV?
I am not a tech expert by any means but IMO I could easily see the gap in IQ between the two consoles getting larger and a lot more significant than it is right now.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
Next gen AA: Native 720p, upscaled to 1080p, downsampled to 720p.
Chobel
Member
Right now, no.
ConteZero76
Member
There goes another one...
ROTFL
anexanhume
Member
With all of the other confirmed 720p titles, I'd file this under MEHgaton at this point.
headshot95
Neo Member
Pretty sure they will have time to update the graphics for Halo 5.
Even when the competitor is cheaper and offers better visuals / performance?
Cool. The PS4 has 1 game that is officially not 1080p (BF4 @ 900p). You have the XB1 that has Ryse (900p), Dead Rising (720p), Killer Instinct (720p). That's just the first party games, you know, the games meant specifically to be played on the XB1.
This entire idea that well Sony will to is baffling. The facts are that Sony has a friendlier and more powerful environment to create and sustain Full HD. I mean seriously, name me one game that is even hinted at being 720p.
It's not going to be Sony Too! It's just going to be Xbox can't and that's because the hardware is limited and weak.
You're misunderstanding me. I'm saying that eventually next gen there will be developers who decide that they are really going to push the graphical effects and they will likely target 720p or 900p even on PS4. I'm saying what (lower) resolution will these games run on on the Xbox One? Also, the difference in the IQ of theses games between the two consoles will likely be greater and more obviously in favor of the PS4.
Andronicus
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Lol im out man
I don't care if it's 4k on a gaming rig The game's visual design doesn't impress me from what I've seen. That's all.
Xbox One version:
Bravo sir. Bravo.
TheRagnCajun
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Not even CBOAT can tell you that yet. There's speculation about devs mastering esram and gpgpu, but I think they really gotta dig into it to find out. We'll just have to see if the performance gap gets bigger or smaller.
I think that partly depends on market conditions too. Developers are going to throw a lot more resources at a platform with 100 million install base rather than 30 million, just for example.
Wickerbasket
Member
That got a laugh out of me.
There goes another one...
ProfessorMoran
Member
There goes another one...
LOL @ Bish tearing that astroturfer to pieces.
onlyindreams
Banned
I'm wondering if the gap will actually end up being a lot closer for the inevitable 720p PS4 games since the 720p frame buffer won't be as limited by the ESRAM so they'll both be able to hit 720p no problem, and the only limitation on the XBO will be the slightly weaker GPU
There goes another one...
I've always wondered what goes on at the clone-fud-turfer factory over there.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
When do these threads reach Shocking new territory?
For anyone wondering it's a Japanese commercial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R30cfdNV3Gk
EDIT: I'm late, but whateva.
purpletentacle
Member
don't get me wrong, I didn't make it. wish I did.
oh lol. that's hilarious.
Puppet Shadow
Member
As an older guy, usually by the end of a long work day my eyes get strained and things get a little fuzzy. Is there a console for me that I can play on the weekend when I'm relaxing, but still feel as though I've put in a hard days work?
SpartanN92
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I can see you are going to be a long lasting and reputable member of the community.
Puppet Shadow
Member
Come on, a drive-by fanboy posts that concludes with calling everyone else 'fanboys' is always amusing, because you know they sincerely believe the term doesn't apply to them.
Where and who hinted at this?
Chobel
Member
Don't remember where, I do remember the name of one insider, bruceleeroy. He didn't exactly say 900p but he implied it by saying it's a little higher than 720p.
If they re aiming at.60 fps, its not that hard to believe.
Windom Earle
Member
No. "If a platform is very easy to develop for, the graphics will be maxed out very soon!" is all a myth.
Look at PS1, Xbox, & Xbox 360. All were very easy to develop for, & developers still managed to get more power out of those consoles. The GPU compute inside PS4 will certainly help increase the gap in power & graphics.
And when will that happen? Most people are just getting into 1080p HDTV's now.
Plus upconverting games at 4K on Xbox One will take it's toll on the graphics, with the kind of hardware it has. The PS4 can't do Native 4K gaming, either; it's just built to perfectly handle Native 1080p gaming.
Fun Factor
Formerly FTWer
Via Tensuke:
That bit at the end is great.
BurnOutBrighter
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I'll repost this here.
Moving up through the ranks of the Doritocracy, Banderas has now become an intern at the public relations branch of a lucrative technology company. But as a foreigner in a foreign land, he must use all of his wits to decipher their language... and stand up for his own beliefs in the process.
Moving up through the ranks of the Doritocracy, Banderas has now become an intern at the public relations branch of a lucrative technology company. But as a foreigner in a foreign land, he must use all of his wits to decipher their language... and stand up for his own beliefs in the process.
I'll repost this here.
Moving up through the ranks of the Doritocracy, Banderas has now become an intern at the public relations branch of a lucrative technology company. But as a foreigner in a foreign land, he must use all of his wits to decipher their language... and stand up for his own beliefs in the process.
Missed opportuniy. Should have ended with "I learned from CBOAT".
I'm predicting that VERY few devs will have 720p games on PS4. 900p sure, but not 720. You didn't see any 480p games on PS3/360 no matter how graphically intensive. The PS4 GPU has the pixel filtrate advantage to ensure games won't have to be rendered at 720.
Beer Monkey
Member
Sony/Cerny learned so much from 360. Make coding straightforward, not tricky. Controllers matter. Online communication matters. Price matters.
How MS decided to try to emulate Sony 2006 is completely beyond me.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Bruceleeroy has no connection to MS other than a "friend" who works for them. That said. Halo 5 is way off they won't have Framerate or Resolution locked in at all yet.
SwiftDeath
Member
343i have already said Halo 5 will be 60fps
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/new-halo-coming-to-xbox-one-runs-at-60fps/1100-6409555/
We'll see what the resolution is. Eurogamer reported that it was 1080p but no other reports of that and no source was given so only 60fps is confirmed at this point