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Rumor: ACIV: Black Flag is sub-1080p on Xbox One
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Muppet of a Man
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Kudos to you, good sir. You get it.
You have other reasons weighing more heavily on your purchasing decision than graphics primarily and that is perfectly reasonable.
If only MS leaned more heavily on this line of reasoning instead of being disingenuous and trying to continually claim (wrongly) that their console was still somehow the more powerful of the 2....
SwiftDeath
Member
Well I wouldn't discount Gaf's reaction either
But if you mean the XB1 isn't doomed yet, then most certainly
MS just needs to bring exclusives and keep bringing quality exclusive titles and they'll win back the mindshare and likely marketshare
All about the games etc.
Check your PMs
The problem is not just with the tools. If the PS4 GPU ONLY had a 50% advantage in raw power (more CUs) then this wouldn't be as big of an issue. But the PS4 GPU has twice as many ROP units, which means double the pixel fill-rate. So the Xbox One has a much more difficult time running games at 1080p which is further compounded by the lack of CUs.
Does this mean all games will be sub-1080p? Of course not. But games will have to make major sacrifices to get there (see Forza as an example. No AA and static lighting).
The Smoking Bun
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What about frame-rates? Are we stuck with good 'ol 30 fps?
I know games win at the end of the day eg: Minecraft but sheesh this is depressing.
To be even debating this fact when everyone has a nice HDTV in their home and 4K becoming affordable within the next 6 years.
I know games win at the end of the day eg: Minecraft but sheesh this is depressing.
To be even debating this fact when everyone has a nice HDTV in their home and 4K becoming affordable within the next 6 years.
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Deleted member 17706
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What is this?
Oh shit I just noticed the banderas on it.
I don't think I ever implied that GAF is a hivemind.
We always have dissenting opinions or, as they say, there is a defense force for everything.
However there are some general tendencies in what GAF as a whole likes from time to time.
It's not like a majority never agrees on anything around here.
It always is...if Microsoft played some weird game of Poker and won Naughty Dog and SSM from Sony, I would jump on the XB1 soooo fast.
On the Xbox One, this is true. That's exactly why developers are falling back to sub-1080P.
If the XB1 were to run it in 1080p, they would have to scale other things back in the game... thus it would look worse than the middle ground they found with.
At least that's what I think he means...
Damn......that quote just destroys everything.....it really should have been named the xbox 720.
Chobel
Member
What do you mean? 900p is better than 1080p?
What? They never did this, their whole stance has been that the gap is not as big as people say it is. I'm not saying they're right, but don't just make things up. Unless I'm missing some big claim by some PR person but I've never once seen them claim that they're more powerful.
Great post. I think a lot of the hang up is still the price. But personally, after seeing the UI and the overall service Xbox One is offering I'm going to get one despite the resolution problems.
Mind blown, didn't notice it until you said it.
TonkuySlon
Banned
This is going to read worse then it is...and I may get pounced on. But if they could hit 900p with most games with similar effects on the xbox as the PS4 while giving me all the other media/kinect/tv guide stuff...I'll be happy..
I've resigned myself to the fact that there will be very few games 1080p and those that are will be missing some/to what degree I'm not sure IQ stuff...
I've resigned myself to the fact that there will be very few games 1080p and those that are will be missing some/to what degree I'm not sure IQ stuff...
Pai Pai Master
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JetSetRadio
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Yup, I chose the right console.
TonkuySlon
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What if he doesn't? What a ridiculous post! Nothing short of fear mongering...apparently if you like the other things that XBOX is bringing to the table you are labeled a fanboy.
Wow.
Re: resolution- I'm going to assume that the gap is gonna narrow as devs get mature tools, but this is the reason why I and a lot of others are going ps4 at launch.
LOL: Strike 1
FUD: Strike 2
Calls others fanboys with zero insight into his own fanboy behavior: Strike 3
You'll go places with this kind of attitude.
ChainsawFilms
Member
Nope, this was never going to be 1080p. Like 90% of all the games on XBone won't be 1080p.
I feel like I'm becoming a stuck record at this point. It's not because the PS4 has 50% more compute, more ROPS, or anything like that. It's simply because 32mb ESRAM is not enough for a 1080p deferred render frame buffer, and pretty much all AAA games use deferred engines these days. The XBone GPU could be running 3terraflops, you can't get beyond the memory problems in relation to resolution.
Ironchef3500
Banned
My bad, I keep forgetting the cloud will save us all.
Completely agree. I think any objective person would agree that MS has the strongest launch lineup with a diverse set of exclusives. In addition they have a AAA title, Titanfall, that has already captured the attention and gained the praise of most gaming journalists. We know most of Sony's heavy hitters have yet to show their hand but as it stands today MS has done an excellent job in securing exclusives for their console.
At the end of the day, resolution matters nil. It will be about the games.
SwiftDeath
Member
Woah woah man don't joke about such things
Universe was reading your post and almost imploded in on itself
ChainsawFilms
Member
The same game on both systems, the one with the better resolution will "be better" - people should not be so quick to dismiss the importance of visuals in a video game.
And later on in the generation, when games are pushing higher, the PS4 drops a bit of resolution to maintain framerate, how much lower do the XBone games go before they daren't drop more resolution and it starts impacting framerate? Once you're losing framerate, that definitely impacts gameplay.
I love the assumption that "any objective person" is dying to play Ryse and would completely dismiss the handful of F2P titles or any of the indie titles on PS4 at launch.
I'd personally take Resogun, Warframe, Blacklight Retribution and War Thunder over any of the X1 launch exclusives, and they are all free.
Yes.
This is especially true when 8 out of 10 games most people buy will be multiplats.
Ironchef3500
Banned
We can only hope.
TonkuySlon
Banned
And that's your personal choice...I honestly have zero interest in any of those game...
When I read this...all I can think about was the announcement from Sega pulling out of the console biz.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/39902/article.html
Somebody has to pacify Timdog before he goes on another Twitter rampage.
The way things are with MS, they could have a royal flush... and still somehow lose the hand.
Why are you assuming that the PS4 tools won't mature as well? The gap will remain but the floor will rise.
Wouldn't they, pardon the lack of a better term, "mature less".
If PS4 is easier to develop for, wouldn't the devs be able to max out the PS4 a lot sooner?
I would honestly take Knack over anything the Xbone has at launch right now. Add in Killzone and Resogun and it isn't close for me.
I can see how some people would want to play Titanfall on XBL, but I'm getting the game on my PC.
Resolution is part of the game. Games are the sum of their parts, and while it won't make a game play worse if it runs at a lower resolution, it does make the game better if it runs at a higher resolution. People wouldn't flip their shit over Dolphin running Mario Galaxy if it wasn't the case.
I'm not going to argue about resolution. It's a waste of time and frankly a pointless debate designed to continue a pointless "console war." Fact is, I have NEVER bought a game based on how many pixels it can render and chances are the vast majority of consumers don't either. I'm am not denying there are resolution differences between these two consoles (I'm a PlayStation fanboy and I'm getting a PS4--of course the PS4 has higher resolution games), but to chalk these differences as some sort of system selling bullet point is disingenuous. It's not.
Likewise you completely dismissed DR3, Forza 5, KI and Crimson Dragon and decided to highlight a game that most people agree is less than stellar. But you and I both know it is not about quantity is is about quality. Warframe is on the PC. Reviews weren't great. Blacklight on the PC. Reviews mediocre. War Thunder also on PC.
But look at me...a PS fanboy defending the XBO.
I was simply pointing out that the XBO has a few bullet points that stand out and I even admitted the PS4 has yet to announce games from their tried and tested developers. This is a marathon nor a sprint.