In which case, they could easily afford to use adequate hardware and appeal to the core as well. A saying from an old movie for you, Amazon. "If you build it, they will come."
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Rumor: Amazon's new game console is core oriented, Amazon snapping up game devs
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In which case, they could easily afford to use adequate hardware and appeal to the core as well. A saying from an old movie for you, Amazon. "If you build it, they will come."
BleachAndPepsi
Banned
I don't see why. If it run Android games, and Android's gaming selection is a shithole compared to iOS.
Schweinehund
Member
Amazon & Valve are probably the two companies that have my nutsack in a vice to put it bluntly. If either of those companies release a box I'd be there day one.
BleachAndPepsi
Banned
Just going by market capitalization, Microsoft is twice as valuable as Amazon ($136 billion vs $272 billion). Where are you getting your numbers?
Betta Lines
Member
I'm not convinced that Amazon knows what they're doing when it comes to hardware. The Kindle did not have any solid competition in the e-ink reader market, and they still took a few iterations to get it right. Then they tried to compete against the iPad with the Fire, and even with reasonable specs, build quality and a lower price, it doesn't seem to be doing very well.
Now they want to make a console? That's even more bold than going up against the iPad - at least they had some kind of foundation there with the Kindle brand.
I predict a massive failure.
Now they want to make a console? That's even more bold than going up against the iPad - at least they had some kind of foundation there with the Kindle brand.
I predict a massive failure.
Interfectum
Member
You obviously haven't messed with a lot of tablets.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
god damn
I find it hard to believe that a mainstream user feels the need to have two devices to do pretty much the same thing.
What's the kindle fire's market share of tablet hardware. You theory should also apply this this piece of hardware as well.
Games push hardware. Not early adopters.
BleachAndPepsi
Banned
Agree 100%. The Kindle Fire is just a shitty, cheap way to get you to pay for Amazon's services. It's poorly built and runs sluggish as fuck because they cut so many corners.
Not necessarily a fair comparison. AMZN has 0 debt, MSFT has tons.
If PS4 is like Betamax, if Wii U is like Virtuaboy, and if X1 is like the Zune I'm not interested.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
WTF!?!?!?!
Amazon is making a game?
IS this the same Amazon that runs the web site or some new developer I've never heard of?
When did this happen?
Amazon is making a game?
IS this the same Amazon that runs the web site or some new developer I've never heard of?
When did this happen?
Exactly! These jokers at Amazon release a hd kindle device without even allowing you to organize books into collections/folders. I have learnt my lesson. Never buy electronic gadgets from companies that do not have a pedigree and a history in the electronics business. Noobs like Amazon are just that. They do not know how to design good electronic products. I am sure we will see more novices like Walmart etc trying to enter into this market. I will most certainly avoid all this crap from now on and stick to Sony,Samsung and traditional electronic companies etc for good products.
Obviously, but if their system has quality hardware for those games then it will attract folks like me who are currently planning on going PS4/Xbox One. Of course it has to have the games, or I will not even pay any attention to it.
Ol No Bones
Banned
Well they are very good at losing money so a games console is a possibility.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Well Roku is really a Netflix streaming device, Ouya is a disaster, Apple's box is M.I.A. apparently because they can't get TV content providers to sign on (so really it's going after the TV market more than games), I don't know what the Intel thing is, Google screwed up their squid box. No one is doing it competently yet. But you're right, many are sort of half-ass trying.
Dreamgazer
Member
1) Innovator's dilemma
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=74846403&highlight=#post74846403
2) Innovation & disruption does not mean restrictions/DRM on the existing market. By definition, disruptive innovation will create its own market and gradually take over existing markets.
You don't break people legs so people can get into the Segway Revolution.
You don't stop producing coke so people will have to buy new coke.
3) The burden of proof is always on the innovator.
dragonelite
Member
Edit: 3.0Tflops plus GPU please if its 2015.
I agree with your point but I think you're over-valuating Amazon just a little bit.
Then why all the high profile hires?
Manmademan
Member
someone doesn't understand how corporate debt works.
apple AND Microsoft have piles of cash just laying around, and still have debt. At that level, if you don't have debt you're fucking up.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Mainstream users barely care about gaming on Android devices at all, let alone on their TVs.
I still maintain that iOS and Android devices are popular because of their apps, portability, and form factor, not because people love Apple/Google/Samsung/Amazon.
Windows is popular, but Windows 8 phone and Surface are not. Chrome is popular, but chromebooks are not. Apple is popular, but Apple TV ships 4-5 million annually. It's not logical to extrapolate success based on the Kindle brand, when a big chunk of that fanbase could give two shits about games.
Graphics Horse
Member
The rumour is this year (2013), all those tweets were in response to this:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...droid-console-for-release-by-end-of-2013.aspx
If these guys spend the money to build an exceedingly powerful box and sell it at a loss they could be off to a good start, similar to the way OG Xbox did it. Build a console that is as powerful as a $800 pc for $400 and it is going to sell. Build a console that's as powerful as the average tablet and it will flop.
Edit.. just read it's aimed at being an affordable class console. It's going to flop.
Edit.. just read it's aimed at being an affordable class console. It's going to flop.
dragonelite
Member
Please dont be an Ouya.....Please dont be an Ouya.....Please dont be an Ouya.....Please dont be an Ouya.....Please dont be an Ouya.....Please dont be an Ouya.....
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
It runs android
SolarPowered
Member
It's funny that you can say this when MS fed the world millions of time bomb 360s at the beginning of this generation. Kindle's problems didn't and still don't compare to RROD and the game industry/audience still snapped up MS consoles like crazy.
Games will be where this hypothetical console lives or dies.
Techcruch is seconding this rumor:
more at the link: http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/09/amazon-could-launch-qualcomm-powered-games-console-and-media-box-by-end-of-year
more at the link: http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/09/amazon-could-launch-qualcomm-powered-games-console-and-media-box-by-end-of-year
Amazon has debt. The did a bond issue at the endof the last year, just because the money is so cheap. Same reason ms has debt.
Arkam
Member
What if it was essentially a Roku with similar specs as the nvidia shield but sold for $150?
I think there would be a decent market for such a device. I mean most people picked up their Roku's (or what ever) a few years back and are showing their age. So i def see potential for that market (assuming amazon allowed competeing serviced like Hulu andNetflix).
Though I dont see anyone really buy it FOR gaming.
But I have been wrong many times before
I think there would be a decent market for such a device. I mean most people picked up their Roku's (or what ever) a few years back and are showing their age. So i def see potential for that market (assuming amazon allowed competeing serviced like Hulu andNetflix).
Though I dont see anyone really buy it FOR gaming.
But I have been wrong many times before
First thing they need to do is have a standard controller API like Apple is bringing in iOS7. Imagine if Ouya, Nvidia Shield, the Amazon System, and all the bluetooth controllers out there were all supported by the same library of games.
If you want to use Android to sell a system, then you need to support a good number of games that are available for it. Right now Ouya supports some 300, Shield around 100, the bluetooth controllers are all over the place and each on their own case by case basis. This is silly, once a game supports controllers it should work on all the aforementioned systems.
On their own, these systems don't support enough games to really get marketshare, but if they all had cross-compatible controllers, the supported games would grow dramatically.
Graphics Horse
Member
Techcrunch says Snapdragon.
dragonelite
Member
Well fuck Android and Core gaming uuhm doesn't seem to bode well if you ask me.
Speaking of that, where the fuck is the Steambox? I haven't heard anything since that semi-official Valve-backed "first Steambox" ended up shipping with Windows instead of Linux and dropping the Steambox name.
The core OS means fuckall in this particular scenario. Im not sure why people are obsessing over it being Android or whatever. That won't matter. A set top box console wouldn't survive based on the games currently available on iOS Android and WP8 app stores combined.
The OS doesn't matter.... I mean... what OS did the PS2 run? And the 360? And the PS4? Noone cares. What will matter is the whether they can get the games that mean something to the console gaming audience. Assassins Creed? GTA? Madden? Not those shitty smartphone ripoffs, REAL ones.
If they can get those tiers of games made for the machine, then they have a shot no matter what OS the box is running on. But if they cannot, bury this thing now. You aren't gonna move 100 million dedicated gaming boxes and sell shitloads of software on the crap that is currently occupying smartphone and tablet gaming. And you aren't going to get traditional console developers support on a box with nothing but crap tablet internals either.
Dear Junior,
There are lots of Android games that are equally as good(if you like mobile gaming) and most games are available on both platforms. No need to slag one mobile os just because you seem to prefer another.
<3
pizzapizza64
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I think I saw it chilling with Half Life 3 at my local Waffle House. It was pretty late at night, though, and I can't really rememb-