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Rumor: Amazon's new game console is core oriented, Amazon snapping up game devs
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Millsington
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Remember Amazon's foray into producing TV shows before you all get too excited.
This is the maximum I'm expecting... probably just games for their android marketplace though... or onLive 2.
scytheavatar
Member
There had been a lot of hate for Sony back at the PS3 reveal era, but Sony has improved their standing a lot with the PS4, also their Xperia line of phones have been better received recently. Not everyone loves Amazon and Apple, there's quite a few people who blatantly hate them and swear never to come near any product related to them.
Pops Maellard
Member
It's not a unique situation... In the U.S, Apple pays about .05 percent tax. Greedy immoral corporations will always be such.
SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
It's because of all the Centauri Civic holidays you seem to be getting, and your workers refusing to help. It's okay, pay the $80 premium, and I'm sure Astro UPS will leave it at your doorstep for your neighbours to nab, or let it float into a wormhole.
SolidSnakex
Member
So they're going to release a "core" oriented console by the end of year and haven't actually announced any details about it with only a few months left in the year? Yeah, okay. I really can't see this be anything more than a better version of Ouya. Whatever that'd be.
PotionBleue
Member
I don't understand what is the point of releasing a console when PS4, Xbox One, GTAV, Pokémon etc. are releasing at the same time. It sounds suicide to me.
fabricated backlash
Member
I'd guess a Steam-Box like fixed spec PC build could be viable. I don't know about a custom built architecture. Don't know if they want to go that far, but who knows.
They were apparently recruiting as far back as early 2012 for an unannounced project that was set to be "bigger than Kindle".
Better get it out sooner rather than later. I'm already on the fence about buying an xbone after already owning (going to buy) a PS4, Wii U, Vita, 3DS and a gaming PC. I sure as fuck ain't gonna buy yet another console.
And knowing amazon only Americans will get AAA games while the rest of us get jack shit.
And knowing amazon only Americans will get AAA games while the rest of us get jack shit.
Pops Maellard
Member
I'm not a huge Apple fan , but that doesn't change the fact that they sell millions of tablets and smartphones. The majority of people I see with smartphones have iPhones, and the same goes for tablets and, to a lesser extent, ipods. I've literally never seen anyone with a Xperia phone. Not saying everyone does, but the majority of the U.S population loves Apple.
As far as Amazon goes, more useless anecdotal evidence but I've never talked to anyone that actively disliked Amazon or refused to use their services.
I should have worded myself better, yes Amazon clearly is big but i'm just not sure that if they were to enter the video game market with a console, could they really become a threat to the ones there now?
kevcampbell
Member
Amazon is most likely the most popular shopping website in the world, I dont see this console having as much success though, most likely be as popular as the Wii U
Even that is not a lot of time, but it would be possible. What stuns me is how quiet they have kept it all. For a project like this, you would think there would be leaks from the moment they even started contemplating it.
General public doesn't really care for Sony, like they don't really hold an opinion on them, many like Amazon though, but as this thread has shown many are not too fond either. Pretty sure if you didn't have to pay taxes at stores in Montréal but you had to pay taxes when ordering from Amazon they'd be completely unknown here because no one would use them. Bypassing tax laws in the US has made them big, but someone buying something from them because it's necessarily cheaper makes no sense, it's an unfair advantage. It would be bankrupt or have never taken off if the situation was reverse. Meanwhile here you pay taxes when ordering from them just like you would when you buy anything and it makes sense, and they're doing fine and it's all good, no problem with that. But what they've become and the reason they've become that, I'm not much of a fan of. Plus they send way too well targeted emails.
So really I don't dislike them/hate them, but I don't like them either, what they are is not because they've been that much better than others. Plus a few friends have had a month of waiting for a game or late day-one shippings or bad selling experiences... I don't see why I'd like them. They're useful for some things but I won't go out of my way to make it the first place I check. I'm grateful they've been making Futureshop have all these awesome promotions/trade-ins/Tsilon and deals though.
SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
They must have been paying the devs well, and they must have had to sign a lengthy Non-Disclosure Agreement.
SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
This is Amazon we're talking about, they'll probably give it to you for free, or at a massive discount during some promo. They're not cheap like so and so, they probably have faith in their software.
They only started recruiting in 2012? It's an OUYA clone.
you're kinda delusional if you think apple's "hate o meter" is that low
George Claw M.D.
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One of those Tweets says Amazon's been poaching a bunch of talent from Microsoft. That's bad news for Xbone game development if true.
I can't imagine Amazon wouldn't create a cheaper console than PS4/Xbone, like Kindle to iPad. I don't think it's realistic to hope for a more powerful console from Amazon unless it isn't launching for a few years.
I can't imagine Amazon wouldn't create a cheaper console than PS4/Xbone, like Kindle to iPad. I don't think it's realistic to hope for a more powerful console from Amazon unless it isn't launching for a few years.
Child, please....
There is no way that it will be more powerful than the PS4/XBone
(if it's under 499€
GHG
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I think its most likely going to be cloud based rather than a straight up OUYA clone. The only similarities i can see it having with OUYA is that the UI will probably be android based.
Mushroomer25
Member
Android base makes me instantly lose interest. Why would you bother, if this is allegedly a real core-oriented device?
Bigmac1910
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When is it supposed to launch?
SolidSnakex
Member
GI's original report said that it'd be out by the end of the year.
SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
You know what's so good about working with an x86 framework? It's a pc. All the consoles you see in front of you are PCs with brand name skins. They're similar, but the PS4 is using more powerful components. There was some truth to what Carmack was saying, in how they use the same architecture.
If the Amazon console is using x86, it's no wonder how they got it ready in such a short time, all Amazon had to do was copy the innards of the other consoles, and put their own spin on it.
LOL everyone is thinking custom architecture like ps3 cells, or whatever quad cores the 360 had before. Scrap that from your minds the consoles you are getting are pcs, that you can assemble yourself.
The only thing that will vary is the OS, or 'XMB' on the system, the exterior aesthetics, and the prices.
All Amazon needed to do was design the box, and hire devs.
Essentially, ''press button here to be game lord''.
Bigmac1910
Member
Damn, that's almost unbelievable, not sure if they can pull that off, haven't heard anything about it yet, and it's less than 5 months till the end of the year.
Well when the Xbox and PS4 become out of stock then I can see people thinking about an Amazon Alternative providing that it can actually play next gen titles. The hardware required doesn't seem that daunting for a giant like Amazon and it gives them an opportunity to push their own services into their own box and get more ad revenue like the Kindle
And not a single fuck was given.
Everythings price would jump up if they did close that loophole.
Id rather see the benefits rather then see some MP use that cash to go on holiday.
Everyone who moans about amazons tax practices should get out more.
every Facebook post they put on there some jumped up little cock snot crys about tax. when we wouldn't even see the beneift of it anyway.
Nikodemos
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Amazon's employment practices lick sweaty donkey butt. And they cheat and weasel their way out of paying imposts/tarriffs/taxes/etc., simultaneously knocking out of business their 'tax-honest' competition and depriving many locales of necessary funds. They b dikholz.
On-topic now, a market has been noticed for an all-digital ultracompact games&media device (based on low-power mobile phone/tablet components). Right now, attempts have been either too expensive or somewhat underwhelming. There's a particular sweet spot to be attained in terms of cost/performance, but since nobody is clairvoyant, it'll take a fair amount of trial and error by different designers until that sweet spot is reached.
On-topic now, a market has been noticed for an all-digital ultracompact games&media device (based on low-power mobile phone/tablet components). Right now, attempts have been either too expensive or somewhat underwhelming. There's a particular sweet spot to be attained in terms of cost/performance, but since nobody is clairvoyant, it'll take a fair amount of trial and error by different designers until that sweet spot is reached.
I can't think of anything Amazon could offer me that I would want to spend money on (more loosely, something anyone would want). I'm inclined to believe this might be a Wii U/Current Gen competitor or some half thought out idea and product like the OUYA, which makes me even more wary. Underpowered products or those comparable to current gen consoles just don't cut it, especially for the price such devices will demand.
Even if they wanted to target Sony and MS, they would need a Halo-scale blockbuster sort of miracle to even get noticed. And there's too much luck involved there to bank on.
Even if they wanted to target Sony and MS, they would need a Halo-scale blockbuster sort of miracle to even get noticed. And there's too much luck involved there to bank on.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
Probably an android console. Which I would have no interest in. I depise android/ios games.
michaelius
Banned
Android console and core oriented ?
Night_Trekker
Member
Yeah, I'm not sure the market could support a fourth competitor. Consider me skeptical.
SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
By the looks of it, the market isn't supporting the third, so this one is moving in with a console into the keyhole.
If someone could release a cheaper digital console ($150?) that can get AAA games and has the android stuff I could see it working. And you don't need to have XBO/PS4 power to do it, as current-gen consoles are strong enough to get the basics like CoD and AC. (Just instead of any exotic design you just have current-gen power but you design it around the x86) So, I could see Amazon potentially trying that. That at least sounds like an android console that still has the "core" in mind.
Also, that fact that they don't need to use boxed retail could make it easier for them to get going -- and likely helps with keeping this quiet.
Now, I'm not saying they'll do this, but I could see someone trying to blend a core console with an android console.
Also, that fact that they don't need to use boxed retail could make it easier for them to get going -- and likely helps with keeping this quiet.
Now, I'm not saying they'll do this, but I could see someone trying to blend a core console with an android console.
If it is a legit console, would this mean that not Amazon games/consoles wouldn't be sold on Amazon anymore? If not from Amazon not wanting to competition, surely Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo wouldn't want to help fund their competitor. Unless the mutual benefits are too great.
Or hell, maybe it is just a third party 3DS and that explains why Amazon won't sell any more.
Or hell, maybe it is just a third party 3DS and that explains why Amazon won't sell any more.
I doubt that would stop someone from trying. And its fifth console, dont forget about Ouya!
Night_Trekker
Member
I knew that one was coming!
Still, I don't know if I believe Amazon could successfully launch a console in this market. We'll see...
Oh yeah. How's that thing doing? Lighting the indie gaming world on fire yet?
Software comes first in this industry, Amazon. It comes first ahead of marketing, hardware and even distribution. So I don't get how they are exactly going to enter into that field with zero experience or weight in that field, unless you are pulling an Ouya (and we all know how well these things go).