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Rumor: GFK Market Research Survey about Nintendo NX leaked
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NDP_Mulcair
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A market research company like The NPD Group, but like 10 times as large with offices all around the world.
They don't have access to private information only revealed to developers behind closed doors...this is a speculative survey based off of rumors that may or may not be true.
I don't know why the OP lists them as a "Nintendo client," but it's giving them false credibility.
See this:
For real. Hilarious how many people are taking this info as fact.
JordanN
Banned
I haven't even seen any rumors that said as much.
At least Wii U had rumors of it matching stuff like a HD 4850 GPU from a lot of places. No rumors say NX is going to be a Nvidia Titan or any high end stuff.
Suzushiiro
Banned
900p makes sense for the handheld device; I highly doubt that the console will be straight-up locked to that resolution for gameplay.
And I'm going to take a wild guess that the sensor bar is there for the same reason as the Wii U- to maintain backwards compatibility with Wii games.
And I'm going to take a wild guess that the sensor bar is there for the same reason as the Wii U- to maintain backwards compatibility with Wii games.
Nintendo: here's our proposal for our new console
3rd parties: 900p60fps REQUIRED? What?
Nintendo:
The Last One
Member
Yeah, no way 900p will be mandatory.
Can't be the casual market they lost them with the Wii U, and why wouldn't you want to think what a group of true gamers think? There's a new president at the helm of Nintendo. Anything is possible, but I never meant for my comment to be taken seriously. It's just for thought like everything else being said in here without any facts.
……forgetit
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Because this isn't actually from nintendo. No way in hell all games on the platform are 900p. I'm shocked so many of you are taking this seriously.
Davey Cakes
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If they can actually use the sacrifice of 1080p for other things then it wouldn't be too bad I guess.
The problem with XB1 and PS4 games at 900p is mismanagement of resources. If every game on NX is targeted for high performance at 900p, no matter what, it may actually be beneficial. Especially knowing Nintendo's standard of polish.
I'm willing to give Nintendo a chance to convince me, here. But, I'm as reserved as anybody. I really wanted 1080p/60fps for everything at this point in the game.
All this said, I want to hear straight from Nintendo on the matter. Hate jumping the gun.
People should read Emily Rogers' tweet, as well as others' posts here: it's a survey from GFK about market research. GFK doesn't necessairly know more than us about NX, it's actually more plausbile they're in the same situation as us. OP should be updated with Emily's tweet and NDP_Muclair's post. Muclair is legit too.
Even that's not particularly impressive by modern mobile standards.
On the subject of whether the product description in the survey is real or not - we'd often test several concepts with varied descriptions and specs; it's quite possible that the same survey could include a version of the description that talks about 1080p gaming, a version that doesn't mention a handheld component, etc. If it's a monadic concept test, a single user taking the survey might not see the other versions - they'd get one randomly selected variant to judge their reaction / likelihood to purchase.
Even if Nintendo already has a specific configuration in mind, they'd probably test several variants to understand the impact of including various terms in their marketing.
Even if Nintendo already has a specific configuration in mind, they'd probably test several variants to understand the impact of including various terms in their marketing.
This isn't hard -
- GFK is a Market Research agency and Nintendo are a client to them.
- This is just a market research survey
- The information is purposefully a mix of non-accurate and accurate info to put out hypothetical questions so that they can understand the market and Nintendo customers
- The results from the survey inform research conclusions GFK will provide to Nintendo, which Nintendo will use to make better business decisions.
People losing their shit over this need to do some research on what they are looking at
generic_username
I switched to an alt account to ditch my embarrassing tag so I could be an embarrassing Naughty Dog fanboy in peace. Ask me anything!
Wow. Nintendo continues to distance itself from me unfortunately. Hope this works out for the company but nothing I have seen so far seem interesting at all.
A: Why would a survey display this information?
B: A lot of games run at 900p on other modern consoles, it's likely a minimum spec for multi-platform titles. If the Wii U can handle 1080p 60fps fine, so will this.
C: This is the kind of spec that can be guessed by using the patents and general progression of console tech.
So yeah, don't freak out for no good reason... but people are doing so anyway, because fuck it, right?
B: A lot of games run at 900p on other modern consoles, it's likely a minimum spec for multi-platform titles. If the Wii U can handle 1080p 60fps fine, so will this.
C: This is the kind of spec that can be guessed by using the patents and general progression of console tech.
So yeah, don't freak out for no good reason... but people are doing so anyway, because fuck it, right?
Xenoblade X is 60 FPS?
Bjoern the Smexy
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Because NeoGAF is the most important key figure in all of video games. We are monitored all the time by every video game developer on the whole world. And they read all your Girl-Age posts in Off-Topic, too.
No, it's 30 fps.
Milly Osworth
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Ahhh the true gamers.
Diablohead
Member
what I don't get is why aim for 900p? why not just get what power you can inside that box and allow the devs to hit 1080 if they can. The only benefit I can see from designing a console around 900p is because the handheald part is the same res and so the games look the same on both devices without scaling.
why is that even a bullet point.
why is that even a bullet point.
NowhereFaded
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Everyone just needs to calm the heck down. There's no way in gods green earth than ninty would release a 900p machine In 2017. Not feasible!
I want to know if this is really what's on the page, because in that case, we just had a thread about NOTHING.
Also, who cropped it up in such a way the part at the bottom was cut, if that was the case? That's, like, removing fundamental parts of an evidence, altering it for your own good.
Colonel Mustard
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I don't think anyone is expecting 720 for the handheld. I thought we were all pretty set on 540p.
Teletraan1
Banned
3 years late to the party and they come in underpowered compared to the competition. How much more would it have seriously cost in GPU to do a bare minimum 1080p/60 target compared to 900p/60? But what do you expect from the company that can't even include a power cord with their systems. Queue the 3rd party cattle call.
If this rumor is actually true then lol.
If this rumor is actually true then lol.
Iriscomeback
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No, it's 720p/30fps
Re. The 900p/60 thing, of course, that's a game matter, not a hardware spec matter, but if this info was legit it would not be the first time Nintendo publicised a single target performance level for a platform, even if ultimately games varied. It's possible Nintendo is circulating a target performance level in terms like this again, even if they're somewhat meaningless - they did it before with GameCube at least.
There's other reasons to doubt this info though, or at least it's completeness. If the key philosophy is handheld/console sharing of software that would be more an extension of the wii u philosophy rather than the totally new experience suggested by Nintendo.
There's other reasons to doubt this info though, or at least it's completeness. If the key philosophy is handheld/console sharing of software that would be more an extension of the wii u philosophy rather than the totally new experience suggested by Nintendo.
Moosehole
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Hilarious how many people are brushing this off as an impossibility. What about Nintendo's track record leads you to believe this won't be the case?
And I can't speak for everyone else, but I said I would be unhappy IF this is true. Not that it is iron-clad fact.
Everyone in this thread has to admit however that this fits Nintendo's bill. That's why people are worried (not accepting as immediate fact).
kuroneko0509
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ahahaha
Portugeezer
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900p could make sense if the games are to also work on a handheld component, I guess?
Diablohead
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they released the Wii in 2006 with SD quality output, i'd not be surprised if the NX was a 720p console.
Seriously? Because that would explain a lot.
Every single game from every single developer on any plattform at any time had resolution and framerate all over the place.
That people are buying into this blows my mind. Like what the flying fuck is wrong with some.
stan423321
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The NX is compatible with Wii U power adapter. If you don't have a Wii U, you can buy a power adapter separately.
Why would you crop out the most important part of the survey lol?
Tales from my ass part 1000.
Vanillalite
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That's so bad.
For the outrage.
Mysterious
Banned
Isn't that power adapter the same as the Wii, which sold a hundred million units? Which means... this is actually something they'd do. :|
ElectricBlanketFire
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I would hate this.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
"I have no intention of ever buying an NX, whatever it may be, but this is a chance to spread some FUD and shit on Nintendo, so..."
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