Pathfinder
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(Source: gtaforums.com)
Ugh, that's just horrible. It's not even remotely humorous.
Someone probably came up with that in two minutes.
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Rumor: Grand Theft Auto V will use additional DRM on PC (Steam + Denuvo)
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Ugh, that's just horrible. It's not even remotely humorous.
Someone probably came up with that in two minutes.
UnrealEck
Member
Which games besides GTAIV have they screwed up on PC?
alexandros
Banned
Shouldn't the thread have "rumor" at the title?
Neuromancer
Member
Sounds like the PS4 version will be the definitive version.
Fuz
Banned
L.A. Noire, RDR.
Pathfinder
Member
It's a good thing this is a PC thread and we're talking about DRM so we don't have to worry about console warriors.
alexandros
Banned
Nope.
All the old 3d ones too if you try to play them widescreen.
Rockstar hasn't said anything, Denuvo is denying it (supposedly, possibility that is fake), and the only "proof" we have going is that Rockstar has had their logo on a website since May. I suggest people just wait until things become more clear.
Yes, it definitely should. Would help with confusion.
The Albatross
Member
(Source: gtaforums.com)
What is this crap and why is it here, and why am I reposting it. WHY
AcceptableGhost
Member
That version has even worse DRM though, it requires a 400 dollar hardware dongle.
Pathfinder
Member
UnrealEck
Member
Was widescreen a common in games thing back then?
What about Steam though? My statement still stands.
PC version also has that same DRM, though, and the dongle can be even more expensive.
flaxknuckles
Member
urggh, can we stop with the platform-warrior crap and go back to complaining about DRM?
AcceptableGhost
Member
Last time I checked I can use whatever hardware I want for PC video games? Consoles are the ultimate form of DRM, bound to proprietary hardware and locked in every way imaginable.
Oh, so you can chose whatever dongle you want? Still a dongle, by your own logic.
Wow.
AcceptableGhost
Member
Yeah I don't think this guy gets it.
Gumbie
Member
I really wish "console warrior" was bannable. It's just as bad as "master race" When I see people using either term I automatically assume they're 12 years old.
Wasn't the issue of the thread, but if you really don't want to use Steam that sucks.
Pathfinder
Member
Seeing as how some of the mods use the term, I don't see why it would be bannable.
I think what you mean to say is you just don't like the term, which is fine. It doesn't make it any less appropriate in the context it was used.
retrogamer84
Member
Yeah they can count me out on this if that is the case. Steam is more than enough DRM by itself, we don't need any more things that will only effect legitimate customers.
nrvalleytime
Member
Good grief at the amount of console warfare in this thread. How about you just wait and see? I mean, really - what's the point of arguing?
Man.
Man.
kitschbeam
Member
Necessary.
you think the working mobile phone versions run at 4:3?
NotoriousPUG
Member
Well they've very likely lost one sale from me. I already waited for the PC release so I can wait for the extra DRM free release or save my money.
Why would Rockstar use such an 'intrusive' DRM. Why not use Steam/Steamworks/Steam-CEG for any key distribution/DRM and then use Rockstar Social club for any periodic, like say three days, license checking for offline (single player) and active license <-> player linking for online?
Why wouldn't a company downplay the link between the DRM and an upcoming product when it's met with negativity. Also why would Rockstar disclose to Denuvo on what product(s) they are going to use it and Denuvo being allowed to disclose anything about an upcoming product that isn't theirs?
I have to be wary of if to buy this game now, even more.
Edit: And I can re-add the game to my Steam wishlist.
Why wouldn't a company downplay the link between the DRM and an upcoming product when it's met with negativity. Also why would Rockstar disclose to Denuvo on what product(s) they are going to use it and Denuvo being allowed to disclose anything about an upcoming product that isn't theirs?
I have to be wary of if to buy this game now, even more.
Edit: And I can re-add the game to my Steam wishlist.
You will get in trouble for context you are using them when it matters. Don't worry mods will get to trash when they can.
Corpsepyre
Banned
Wasn't 'master race' spawned as a satire though?
Freeman
Banned
That was just cruel, damn! I feel lightheaded.
CrunchyFrog
Member
So crisis for real averted?
Syphon Filter
Member
I bet they will have something though. rockstar is stubborn.
Chris Murphy
Member
Rockstar are stubborn but they would be stupid to not make GTA V moddable in some way.
If they were able to monetise and distribute mods in a Valve like way they could make 10 times the amount they would get from just selling the game. Skyrim has sold so many more copies because of the moddable aspect of the game and Valve makes such ridiculous amounts of money from hats; ignoring the modding community seems crazy for such a big title in this day and age.
If they don't embrace the PC then they will only make a small percentage of what they possibly could do. It would be an incredibly bad business decision and a waste of the franchises potential to just sell the game with internally made content made available through micro transactions when they can make the community do all the hard work for them.
If they were able to monetise and distribute mods in a Valve like way they could make 10 times the amount they would get from just selling the game. Skyrim has sold so many more copies because of the moddable aspect of the game and Valve makes such ridiculous amounts of money from hats; ignoring the modding community seems crazy for such a big title in this day and age.
If they don't embrace the PC then they will only make a small percentage of what they possibly could do. It would be an incredibly bad business decision and a waste of the franchises potential to just sell the game with internally made content made available through micro transactions when they can make the community do all the hard work for them.
Pathfinder
Member
I hope so. I sort of figured it was some sort of misunderstanding from the very beginning.
You know how rumors get started and all...
A myth that has consistently proven to ring true?
I think your idea of myth is more mythical than the claim you made.
This is the same company that just patched San Andreas on PC, once again giving it more problems. To be specific, the game just got a 400 MB patch that did the following:
- Remove a number of songs
- Remove 1920x1080 as a resolution option....again
- Crashes if you use multiple monitors
- All of your previous saves don't work anymore
- Finally got controller support! But it's basic XInput jazz, nothing major
They have proven they don't give a shit time and time again. The only time they really have cared is with Max Payne, and I assume this is because the series has sold the most on PC compared to consoles. Nearly every other Rockstar port comes to the PC with some catch right out of the gate.
Absolutely awful and completely anti-consumer. The worst part is that they didn't even need to do this. They could have just released the 'HD San Andreas' on Steam, and prevented users from buying the original version with its original songs still intact. Taking away content from users who've already paid for it is a terrible idea.
Currently installing the Steam release so I can play it for the minimum of five minutes before I can publish my 'glowing' review of this Steam release. :\
I also forgot that apparently most mods don't work again, which is a shame as there's mods planning better controller support and fixes to the core game, which are still not fixed by Rockstar.
A 2014 patch that does nothing to fix actual issues, like a wrong time cycle, wonky lighting, and even the lack of alpha-blending. But no, gotta remove songs and fuck up resolutions again.
Now I see why people say when you get the game, just use a downgrade patch and leave it at 1.0; any attempts they make to enhance or improve the game have been consistently fucked by Rockstar's lack of even giving a shit to fix their own game.
EDIT: Funny, a 182kb patch fixes almost all of the issues that patch created. See, this is why people are worried about DRM with the game; if Rockstar breaks the game - and they have a very recorded history of this - you're entirely relying on them if mods are 100% out of the question.
And guess what? More shit to add to the list. Nem patch for San Andreas:
-removes songs from the game. This affects all buyers-
-removed several resolution options including 1080p
-broke the saves
Zeyphersan
Banned
Wait so is this like... Confirmed? Title still says rumor
The title was recently updated with rumor, because Denuvo's co-owner says they aren't involved with GTAV in any way.
+$50/year, if you want multiplayer access.
The performance hit is absurd enough already, but I heard people CTD all the time because of it as well.
-MD-
Member
Not a chance.