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Rumor: NX controller supports Wii-like motion control and force-feedback.
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ZombiePlatypus
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WiiU, short of a lifespan as it may have, has a really nice chunk of great games. They need to port ALL OF THEM. 😐
LegendofLex
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My read is that the question was thrown out there, at some point some consensus was reached that they'd prefer to have Zelda as a playable female protagonist than a female Link, and then they decided against it because they think Link needs to be the protagonist.
Besides, Emily never said female Link.
Papacheeks
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I don't think you understood where I was coming from. I was talking mainly console controller, not as a handheld. As a hand held I guess after seeing what there is with Vita touch controls, and what not go nutts if they want.
But I still feel having something that really feels good in both my hands like the pro-controller with a screen in the middle little bigger than PS4 touchpad would be great for console play.
I hated Wii controls, especially for playing more intricate games, or games that would require both d-pad and stick.
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Regarding this rumored screen size and resolution (of a prototype!): At that size and resolution, it's about 237 ppi. For comparison, I looked at Apple's "Retina" screens. While their ppi definitely varies depending on the product (seemingly from 218 to 401), I think these are good points of reference for what the tech market consumes. 237 would exceed every Retina desktop and laptop product Apple has, while coming in just under the iPad with Retina Display and iPad Pro models (264 ppi). Beyond that, Apple's iPad Mini with Retina Display and all of their Retina phones have higher ppis (6 Plus is at 401). It seems most of their portable Retina devices have aimed for 326 ppi.
Given that it's a gaming device that will likely aim to have a battery life of at least 3-4 hours while in use, I think 720p is very fair. I'm also surprised that it's actually somewhere in the ballpark of the products Apple puts out, because, well, this is Nintendo.
We'll see how it turns out in the end.
Given that it's a gaming device that will likely aim to have a battery life of at least 3-4 hours while in use, I think 720p is very fair. I'm also surprised that it's actually somewhere in the ballpark of the products Apple puts out, because, well, this is Nintendo.
We'll see how it turns out in the end.
Tablets are a completely dead market. No one will buy a tablet-sized beast of a handheld.
LordOfChaos
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Isn't the craziest thing that the 3DS top panel cost was similar to the contemporary iPhone 4 Retina displays cost?
I'm sure nearly every user of it would give up 3D in a heartbeat to have anything near that quality instead of what we got. Even bringing the resolution down by half to save cost would be well ahead of the 3DS display and possibly cheaper.
pretty done
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720p is even a big upgrade from the Vita's 540p. If the NX is running all games at native res that is pretty damn impressive and the games will look quite nice.
Fourth Storm
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Thanks for the quote. I still think that e3 lanyard may have been the source of that rumor/confusion. I edited in a picture on the last page, but here it is again. The hooded Link could easily be mistaken for a female.
TwEE-N-Toast
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Sounds good, me likey.
Looking at the newest Zelda it looked like it would play great with motion control. The way you flying things about kind of reminded me of Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bears.
Looking at the newest Zelda it looked like it would play great with motion control. The way you flying things about kind of reminded me of Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bears.
Undead Fantasy
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LegendofLex
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Thanks for the quote. I still think that e3 lanyard may have been the source of that rumor/confusion. I edited in a picture on the last page, but here it is again. The hooded Link could easily be mistaken for a female.
Yeah, that's actually possible, especially once you start factoring in that she heard it from several sources. (Imagine how many people had access to the art for the lanyard but not really any other specific information about the game, prior to the re-unveiling.)
Because Wii U can hit it (even if it's rare) and this is more powerful. Even with a 720p screen, I'd be shocked if they don't hit 1080p on an HDTV at some point in the device's lifespan.
James Scott
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Wii U BC would likely be very hard just like there's not PS3 BC on PS4. MS managed it eventually, but I wouldn't expect it. Wii games on the VC, however? That sounds plausible
Expecting 1080p standard for games when docked I think is asking for a bit much. It will probably have as many games at that res as Wii U currently has.
JetSetRadio
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Thanks for the quote. I still think that e3 lanyard may have been the source of that rumor/confusion. I edited in a picture on the last page, but here it is again. The hooded Link could easily be mistaken for a female.
If anything the right one looks like Juliana Richter.
But how do you play on such a small screen with a detached controller without it being an unergonomic experience? It certainly felt way too small when doing that via Wii U + Classic Controller.
You have to prop up such a small screen way too high for it not to feel like you're straining your neck.
They should either go smaller or much larger.
3 hours in VR doing what?
What rendering resolution for PPSSPP? (PSP x ?)
Yeah of course, but even in spite of viewing distance, my point stands I think (as I mentioned).
Assuming their main target is portable/mobile gamers, then ppi really isn't a metric they seemed fussed about.
Android phones have been trashing Apple in terms of ppi (dpi) for years and I don't think that has had too much of a bearing on sales. Apple's flagship phone for example, has a ppi which was available on top of the ranges Android devices 3 years ago.
Screen resolution was never going to be the selling point of this thing.
SuperCambot
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This reminds me out the "Revolution" pre-Wii rumor mill. Back then, people speculated wildly about the controller. Can someone dig up some hilarious mockups prior to the Wii reveal?
This thing will render games at a framerate and with assets of enough quality to make any games running on phones with double the resolution look like shit. That's the selling point. Take any game running on top smartphone on the market and compare it to Zelda on this.
James Scott
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Is this the first HD portable gaming system? Pretty sure it is
LegendofLex
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Outside of the portable PC space, yes.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
And tablets.
I hope its 720, but I'm not with you about what people expect.
They expect cheap and good games. They don't care about the resolution. It are only the few gamers like us that cares about it.
3ds was 240p and still sold well and maybe still is
Looking at the games on android and apple store.
Most games have to run on older phones too.
Don't see there are much high end games for last gen phones
Ruud_Luiten
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Awesome!
The only period when Nintendo was on the game, was with motion controls. Gimme the true Wii HD!
The only period when Nintendo was on the game, was with motion controls. Gimme the true Wii HD!
Guys this is so stupid, the resolution talk... People buying a Nintendo portable are not comparing it with their techy phone... They know what they'll have on it that they don't have on their phone, that's why they are buying it.. That's, again, some sort of fake problem for fake interests.
And at 540p, yes 540 fucking p, graphics on it will be so better than any equivalent phone it's not even funny.. Try to compare any phone game to xenoblade chronicle X please..
Those comparison have no reason to exist in first place. That's like someone would say Mario 64 in 4k looks better than Mario Galaxy in 720p, based on resolution alone...
And at 540p, yes 540 fucking p, graphics on it will be so better than any equivalent phone it's not even funny.. Try to compare any phone game to xenoblade chronicle X please..
Those comparison have no reason to exist in first place. That's like someone would say Mario 64 in 4k looks better than Mario Galaxy in 720p, based on resolution alone...
I think motion control would be used more for vr?
Also would it still use the same tech with the sensor bar?
What about on the go?
Btw, is this something :
http://wccftech.com/amd-making-processor-nintendo-nx/
Also would it still use the same tech with the sensor bar?
What about on the go?
Btw, is this something :
http://wccftech.com/amd-making-processor-nintendo-nx/
GhostTrick
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You know, the funny thing is, no one is doing the phone/home console or even PC comparison. I mean, they have 1440p phones but they play on 1080p TVs.
Speak for yourself good sir! I am extremely excited by the NX leaks as they have exceeded what I expected.
As a working adult I game on my 3DS (subway commute) way more than my home consoles so this fits my use case amazingly well.
Ok good. I saw it on twitter. Let us ignore it
RavageDark
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The NX thirst is real.
What do people want?
Console ps4 neo likw, realistic games gfx 1080p 4k. 450$
3rd console with again the same games on it.
As mid gen console
Doubt people really wants that...
And if you take the screen size in account, i mean PS4 and XBO have basically gameboy IQ compared to phones!
I think the lie with those guys is to think even a 540p 5" screen (a 720p 6+" screen would have equivalent ppi i guess) would have a problem with its resolution. I mean, we can talk resolution when it is actually a problem, that will make things ugly, like really ugly. But at those resolutions, it's damn enough to look sharp and comfortable, so when you reach that comfort, you stop pushing the resolution, but rather push what's displayed at that resolution.. That's so simple to understand.
Do they have high expectations though? Does the mainstream market really care what resolution the screen on their NX, or even their phone, is? I would wager that almost no one outside of tech enthusiasts knows the resolution of an iPhone screen. Just look at how many people run their HDTVs or computer monitors at something other than the native resolution and fail to notice is looks like blurry shit. It just isn't a relevant detail for most people.
I think you are absolutely right in saying that it will come down to selling points like having a portable console experience, the games, and the unique non-gaming applications. Along with price, these are the only things that matter.
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would be quite nice if the wii u was one big 'motion isnt ready' while they studied the shit out of it, then arrived with a truely ground breaking implementation of it.
GhostTrick
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Exactly. But then again, some people will rather have upscaled blurry games on their 4k phone screen and call it "amazing brand new tech". Ignorance truly is a blessing.
Yeah, the screen is not going to be a selling feature. It only has to be competent for what they want to do. The gimmick and hook are elsewhere.
netgrimoire
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I hope the design is clean and modern and takes notes from what Apple is doing with design.
A really amazing force-feedblack, directional and all, would add a lot of what motion controlled lack in first place. I always thought motion control couldn't replace pads cause.. in a way waving your arm to play tennis feels more close to the real thing.. But actually, pushing a button to do it gives you more physical feedback and makes the action more solid.
Now i'm still really cautious with that thing being able to do more than the Wii in a portable with detachable controllers etc.. and all the problems that goes with it, battery etc.
Also, beyond size problem, did you guys talk about the fact that if some games need you to actually detach the controller and put the screen on some stable surface.. That's already, not only no pocketable, but not portable anymore. You can't play in the bus, in the metro, in the WC.. It's transportable but not playable on the go.
I should've guessed this, honestly.
I see allot nx stuff on twitter. Mostly i only post from people i trust. I did got some doubt about this guy. So i don't wanted to post the full article, but just a check to see if it was legit.
Btw this guy liked my post when i mention the nx could be vr/ar.
Kris Kolo (@kriskolodziej): https://twitter.com/kriskolodziej?s=09
What? The Wii-U screen was trash even when it launched. Cheap resistive 480p LCD when even the Vita was rocking a 540p OLED at least.
When you ignore literally every handheld computing device and arbitrarily limit it to handhelds released by Sony and/or Nintendo? Sure.
I mean, the iPod touch sported a retina display since 2010 and it played plenty of games.
Franz Brötchen
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Again with quoting iOS/android devices' resolution, that's misleading if not idiotic. Obviously the interesting part will be natively rendered portable HD games and THOSE could indeed be first on such a device. Having N64 upscaled on a 4k monitor wouldn't be 4k gaming, would it?
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