valkillmore
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That was my thought too
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Rumor: Xbox Streamer ($99), Xbox TV ($150-$175), Xbox Mini, & Xbox 2017 coming, more
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That was my thought too
At the price, it's not inconceivable that it could be a MS branded Intel stick running Windows 10 with the Xbox BPM mode they were talking about. That'd be a huge step up from Chromecast since you'd be able to run native windows apps. Probably a stretch though with MS focusing so heavily on UWAs.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Exactly. Same with with PlayStation as they do the streaming service, interactive consoles, remote play, etc..
Nintendo will be going down that road as well it seems.
RealityCheque
Banned
8. MS knows gaming is the "bread-and-butter" for Xbox and will show that at E3 but still want to "attack the living-room" and appeal to cord-cutters. Xbox One is currently too expensive/big for that audience.
Oh god, not this again.
Would be happy to see the xbox interface on PC though. Let me add steam games and use it as a big picture mode launcher and I'd be very happy with it.
Oh god, not this again.
Would be happy to see the xbox interface on PC though. Let me add steam games and use it as a big picture mode launcher and I'd be very happy with it.
CrimsonEclipse
Member
Pretty much this, hence one of the reason why they are taking UWA/UWP so seriously. Everything is making sense now. One development platform for all of their devices, xbox, xbox on pc, etc etc.
All they have to do is execute it with consumers in mind and this could be huge for them. I am actually quite excited for a xbox like interface on PC. If they basically transform the xbox app into that said interface and really open the floodgates for Crossbuy/Crossplay I'll be there day fucking one.
That seems to be the way they are going.
VincentMatts
Member
If the rumors are true in that kotaku article and it will support oculus rift, it needs to be really powerful.
What I really would like to see is the ability to play Xbox disc-games on PC. Like you put the disc in and it downloads the UWP executable through their big picture mode.
If you can keep me in the buy, play, trade cycle on my PC that'd be pretty huge for me. I find I buy a lot of new games on Xbox now only so I can trade them in when I'm done.
If you can keep me in the buy, play, trade cycle on my PC that'd be pretty huge for me. I find I buy a lot of new games on Xbox now only so I can trade them in when I'm done.
TimeEffect
Member
This iterative future is confusing. So after XBox 1.5, we'll see Xbox 2.0? And it will be backwards compatible? at what point will Xbox 1 not play future Xbox console games?
Is this Sony's future too?
Will all these Xbox models end up working to swing Xbox into some good momentum?
Is this Sony's future too?
Will all these Xbox models end up working to swing Xbox into some good momentum?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It only needs to be at least a 970ti in power. NEO/PS4K is 'rumored' to be spec'ed in that range of power.
So the perspective of 'really powerful' is subjective to the platform space I suppose.
It also has to be priced to what the consumers will bare for a home console as well.
tiredheadcrab
Member
I dont think the marketing team will have a hard time. To me there will be like 3 devices.
1: Xbox One Slim. I think MS will try to make this device seem like it can compete with Apple TV and Fire TV. Might be more expensive but have better specs and game dev support.
2: Xbox streaming stick. Think Chromecast but is able to stream game, movies, music and apps from your xbox or W10 pc.
3: Xbox 2. The big upgrade for the core crowd. We probably wont see this at E3, but if we were it could be in the form of a spec sheet so say "Here is what we have coming. Stay tuned for more". People will still buy the xbox one slim because hopefully MS will make it clear that its a platform and not a generational console.
So in other words stop saying the new more powerful xbox will be a new generation. It will be viewed as a premium high end model.
The 10 teraflop thing is getting old as well.
1: Xbox One Slim. I think MS will try to make this device seem like it can compete with Apple TV and Fire TV. Might be more expensive but have better specs and game dev support.
2: Xbox streaming stick. Think Chromecast but is able to stream game, movies, music and apps from your xbox or W10 pc.
3: Xbox 2. The big upgrade for the core crowd. We probably wont see this at E3, but if we were it could be in the form of a spec sheet so say "Here is what we have coming. Stay tuned for more". People will still buy the xbox one slim because hopefully MS will make it clear that its a platform and not a generational console.
So in other words stop saying the new more powerful xbox will be a new generation. It will be viewed as a premium high end model.
The 10 teraflop thing is getting old as well.
RealityCheque
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Yep, isn't the valve streamer only $50 or so? Because that streams win 10 games as well with a little effort.
Also, I need these power numbers termed in a way I can understand: how many GameCubes taped together is it?
When Microsoft feels like it, when the market has purchased enough Xbox 1.5s to allow it, just like smartphones.
Spend 5 minutes instead of 90
Try to restrain from saying "TV" as much as you can humanly manage
badaboom
StoneSarge89
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This sounds like a dead at birth device to me. Who would pay $175 to play games that they already have running on their phones? Ouya like device much?
Xbox 2017 is a nice surprise if confirmed.
Super_Cobra
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This will create further confusion to people that doesn't follow videogames.
Captain Zyrain
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Phil: "Lots of creative chatter today. Excited to share our gaming story at E3 on June 13th."
https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/735509199044501506
https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/735509199044501506
MilkyJoe
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Art Vandilay
Member
All these rumors... I'm so confused by reading this.
Chittagong
Gold Member
SMART
+ Smaller, cheaper Xbox One
+ Stronger, iterative, premium Xbox Two
+ Oculus = Xbox VR
+ Xbox UI on PC
NEITHER NOR
= Updated controller
DUMB
- Streamer box
- Marketplace simple game box
+ Smaller, cheaper Xbox One
+ Stronger, iterative, premium Xbox Two
+ Oculus = Xbox VR
+ Xbox UI on PC
NEITHER NOR
= Updated controller
DUMB
- Streamer box
- Marketplace simple game box
I am so confused with all these rumors and devices. Not that I care much, my Tier 7 country will never be supported anyway.
I am still hoping for a $150-175 XBox Mini, digital only. I'd import one from the UK just for the EA Access, and never buy another EA game ever again. That's the only service I find useful in an XBox console.
I am still hoping for a $150-175 XBox Mini, digital only. I'd import one from the UK just for the EA Access, and never buy another EA game ever again. That's the only service I find useful in an XBox console.
To me, MS sounds totally confused and clueless. They are making Xbox even harder to understand or relate to with all these devices IMO. I don't even understand which one an enthusiast like me would pick or why.
PS4 and PS4K sound much more straightforward of a marketing strategy.
I do like the idea of playing Xbox games on PC, though, so I don't have to buy another console whenever it gets a game I'm interested in.
PS4 and PS4K sound much more straightforward of a marketing strategy.
I do like the idea of playing Xbox games on PC, though, so I don't have to buy another console whenever it gets a game I'm interested in.
I'm very curious to see how this all shakes out during E3. It just seems like they're so behind with ideas and just follow the status quo.
A streaming stick at the tail end of 2016? It just seems weird. If it is Windows on a stick - is the "PC on a stick" even a successful segment?
VR in 2017 - working with Oculus (which does make sense). Of course 2016 (as well as 2017) is just the start of VR but it seems "me too"
A new more powerful Xbox 1.5 in 2017 - the Neo has them beat here if rumors of a fall release are true.
I'm not even sure the xbox brand has its legs anymore tbh. As big as Microsoft is - they must still see worth in catering to such a small audience with "xbox"
I do hope the 40% smaller version looks akin to the 360S - that was one of the nicest looking consoles in my opinion (2nd to the PS2 slim).
A streaming stick at the tail end of 2016? It just seems weird. If it is Windows on a stick - is the "PC on a stick" even a successful segment?
VR in 2017 - working with Oculus (which does make sense). Of course 2016 (as well as 2017) is just the start of VR but it seems "me too"
A new more powerful Xbox 1.5 in 2017 - the Neo has them beat here if rumors of a fall release are true.
I'm not even sure the xbox brand has its legs anymore tbh. As big as Microsoft is - they must still see worth in catering to such a small audience with "xbox"
I do hope the 40% smaller version looks akin to the 360S - that was one of the nicest looking consoles in my opinion (2nd to the PS2 slim).
Alx
Member
Eh, no use trying to understand a full business strategy from a few obscure and incomplete leaks. We'll see when MS show their cards if they seem to know what they're doing or not. Until then it's just guessing and speculation.
thehillissilent
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I don't think so either. They are going full blown Apple with all of these devices under the Windows 10 banner. It is all about pushing software for them through their Windows 10 Store with UWA/UWP. They have to entice game and software developers to embrace UWA/UWP for this to happen. This is why they were pushing Windows 10 so hard and gave it away as a free upgrade for a year. The userbase has greatly expanded for them. Of course, a lot of people don't have gaming capable PCs but they can still play "light" games.
It's just "Fire TV", not "Kindle Fire TV"
SlipperyMoose
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As a current Xbox fan I don't think any of this interests me. But having said that I don't think any of it is geared towards me.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Perfect point. No way this doesn't water down the brand.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
They are! They are panicking for no good reason. MS doesn't need to do all this crazy stuff.
Man, the gaming landscape continues to shift. Iterative consoles, VR, digital distribution, streaming, shared ecosystems.. exciting, but dazzling at the same time. Makes me curious about how the Sony and MS will present the hardware changes to the 'average gamer'.
Microsoft branded, powerful PC's (or really, just upgraded Xboxes) combined with AWA/UWP and a Xbox streaming device might provide a more aproachable gaming ecosystem than traditional custom-build PC's with win32 .exes and a Steam Link.
Microsoft branded, powerful PC's (or really, just upgraded Xboxes) combined with AWA/UWP and a Xbox streaming device might provide a more aproachable gaming ecosystem than traditional custom-build PC's with win32 .exes and a Steam Link.
The "chromecast" and "lunchbox" systems to try and reclaim the living room sound like terrible ideas as that market is already flooded and Smart TVs are the way more people consumer their digital content. No reason to build and sell a separate box for the living room. It'll be DOA.
Hope so
Because nobody has Chromecasts and Roku boxes right?
I'd probably get one depending on a few things and I have a smart TV.
Audioboxer
Member
How many people are that invested in the Windows store ecosystem to be prized away from Android and Apple?
Don't see much hope for a streaming box. A lot of the more tech literate folks buy cheap android boxes with Kodi, others opt for Amazon/Android and Apple.
Gamers buy the game consoles that get all the streaming and gaming in one.
Don't see much hope for a streaming box. A lot of the more tech literate folks buy cheap android boxes with Kodi, others opt for Amazon/Android and Apple.
Gamers buy the game consoles that get all the streaming and gaming in one.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Well speaking of myself, I no longer have any of the apps I once used on the PS4 (Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, MLB.TV), since my Android TV has all of them, and they run fantastic. I do not want to have an extra box running, when the TV has them on the App Store. Hell, they just added Spotify now, but I won't bother, since I can Bluetooth/NFC from the phone or tablet to the soundbar/wireless sub, and not have to have the TV on at all for music.
I cancelled Playstation Vue for this very reason. I will re-subsribe when they add it to their Android lot.
http://gamingbolt.com/xbox-2-reveal-coming-in-spring-2017-xbox-branded-tv-devices-coming-later-this-year-rumor
did i miss something? the text says Xbox slim, Xbox 1.5 and the new one next year
did i miss something? the text says Xbox slim, Xbox 1.5 and the new one next year
aygomyownroad
Member
Confusion will reign...
Focus on the games. If you need to have a 4K (well.... 1080p) console to compete with the PS4K, then by all means yes have it. But don't flood the market with a small streaming Xbox and a slightly bigger streaming Xbox...
Focus on the games. If you need to have a 4K (well.... 1080p) console to compete with the PS4K, then by all means yes have it. But don't flood the market with a small streaming Xbox and a slightly bigger streaming Xbox...