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Rumour: Nintendo aiming for Zelda BotW release on June 16 (EUR), Switch release first
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LiveFromKyoto
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They're trying to make a Bethesda game except without it running like a Bethesda game. Think about that. Then consider how many complex systems they have interacting with one another, then consider that it had a platform change mid-stream to hardware with no middleware, then consider that this is their flagship release, and that their corporate reputation - maybe even continued existence as a first party - is riding on it to a significant degree. In a world where FF XV & the Last Guardian are things, this isn't even close to bullshit territory.
They aren't, I never said so. They're detrimental to Nintendo, however, so they've done what they have the legal power to do.
Tell me, why should Nintendo give LKD revenue via marketing tools? That's all this is about, they haven't silenced her, just refused to give her review copies or invite her to their events.
Thanks to LKD, customers know they should not buy a Wii U if they want Zelda first.
But on a serious note, thanks to her leaks I won't be buying Mario Maker 3DS and instead wait for the Switch version. Maybe others do the same for all the other ports.
Opus Angelorum
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That's a good point actually, with the Switch on general release retailers won't want to touch the Wii U.
……forgetit
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Damnit, read it as June 19th, oh well, close enough
James Scott
Banned
We knew it wasn't coming out at launch and we would've been told it's coming at that date before Switch came out so it doesn't really matter.
You can argue Pokémon Sun and Moon port is beneficial, but that wasn't her.
These leaks haven't been for the consumer
You usually don't leak every possible thing you can just because you can. Especially while expecting to not get any backlash.
Skittzo0413
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I posted this in the main Switch thread but it's pretty relevant here too:
Hummm, just found this from the GameStop report yesterday:
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Assuming this is calendar year quarters (I can't imagine what else it would be) then this is indicating that Zelda will be out before the end of March, right? Could just be placeholder info, but it's strange that GameStop would more or less be assigning a date to Zelda when Nintendo has only officially said 2017...
I say calendar year because it has Black Friday and Christmas in Q4 '16, May 4th in Q2 '17, etc.
I'm assuming this is just a guess by GameStop but it's interesting that they're confident enough to give Zelda a launch month. I guess there's always the chance that Laura is wrong, though history tells us she has very good sources so I doubt that.
Hummm, just found this from the GameStop report yesterday:
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Assuming this is calendar year quarters (I can't imagine what else it would be) then this is indicating that Zelda will be out before the end of March, right? Could just be placeholder info, but it's strange that GameStop would more or less be assigning a date to Zelda when Nintendo has only officially said 2017...
I say calendar year because it has Black Friday and Christmas in Q4 '16, May 4th in Q2 '17, etc.
I'm assuming this is just a guess by GameStop but it's interesting that they're confident enough to give Zelda a launch month. I guess there's always the chance that Laura is wrong, though history tells us she has very good sources so I doubt that.
LKD is more reliable than that. Multiple sources indicate the game won't be ready for launch.
Linkstrikesback
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Nah. Online retailers at minimum will definitely have a disc wii u version, even if it's hard to find in stores. Might be GameStop only in America, but it'll exist.
Graphics Horse
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I'm sure they'll do a limited sympathy retail run for collectors.
The Wii sold extremely well. The Wii U not so much.
In general they collaborate with a bunch of Nintendo games, but that's that, I think they did that for SS and ALBW and a bunch other titles like Splatoon.
Won't there be a Switch version of Yooka-Laylee eventually? Is the PC version being developed by somebody else too?
Same, if I have gotten a Switch by then I could also end up getting the Wii U one anyway.
As Wii U owner, so far the only game that interests me in the first few months is the new Mario game, because even Zelda, at least by the time being, is also coming to Wii U.
Opus Angelorum
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With inflated prices probably!
Jonneh3003
Banned
I would love a double pack with both the Switch and Wii U version, I can't see the demand for that being high but it would be great for those transitioning from Wii U to Switch.
TheDinoman
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No, it's also being internally developed by Playtonic.
OrbitalBeard
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3D Mario in March and Zelda in June? I can dig it.
Journalists actually report any info that is reliable enough from their point of view. Just look at Jason Schreier.
The significant public interest is a bullshit. It's not something that it's easily quantifiable. If there is no public interest in what a journalist reports it will have no audience to report to. That's how it's regulated. Unless it's reporting fake news. Which is a different topic. Fake news would justify blacklisting.
Saying that Laura deserves to be punished because she reports things earlier than Nintendo wants to is some bullshit on the level of the reaction of NMS fandom to Jason reporting the delay of NMS.
It's Nintendo right to blacklist her, but that doesn't make it necessarily OK.
StrategyFan
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typical nintendo
i doubt a ton of wii u owners will be buying the new console earlier than they otherwise would just for this
i doubt a ton of wii u owners will be buying the new console earlier than they otherwise would just for this
Skittzo0413
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I don't think you can fault a company for looking out for its interests. It sucks, but she is cooperating with a person who is clearly breaking NDA and if Nintendo can't get to the source breaking the NDA then they will do whatever they can to dissuade the reporter from continuing the leaks.
Hopefully Nintendo just becomes more communicative in the future and we don't have to rely on leakers and journalists to dig up info.
lmao this made me laugh way too hard.
Its swanswong is releasing at a point where it's nigh irrelevant
Sure I can, when their "interests" run counter to a free press.
See updated post.
From what I understand she will no longer receive hardware/software from Nintendo UK. I assume this might include events as well, but who knows?
Either way, assuming this is true, this sends the message that those that cover Nintendo in a welcome manner may receive privileges and those that do not - here by revealing information, but this may very well include criticism or bad reviews - will not be supported. That is their right, but that doesn't mean consumers should be happy about it, given the implications. I will say though, in case it is brought up, that I am generally not a fan of providing material to journalists.
Just to be clear, many companies do this and this is (hopefully/apparently) not even remotely close to e.g. the infamous Jason Chen story. This is not a big story, e.g. they did not take any legal action and the rest of LPVG is unaffected, but it is nonetheless annoying.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Im indifferent about the blacklist situation but they should come for the internal mole too
Interfectum
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She's leaking NDA'd information. Of course Nintendo is going to try and stop some random person on Twitter from spoiling all their surprises. I'm not sure how you can say Nintendo has any fault here, morally or otherwise. And this is coming from someone who is enjoying her leaks and hoping they continue.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Nah it clearly isn't ready, a new 3D Mario will do just fine.
I mean yeah it is a missed opportunity but I don't think it will matter
demosthenes
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My birthday is June 15 😊
That should give us something like this for 2017 based on current rumoured titles, without unannounced 3rd party titles:
Launch:
3D Mario, Skyrim, RabbidsXYoshi RPG, Splatoon, mario sports, Just dance, Lego Land Switch, NBA2K
April: Some WiiU Port (mario maker?) + something new firstparty
May: Mario Kart 8.5
June: Zelda: BotW
And in H2 2017 Pokemon Stars, Pikmin 4, Smash Bros Ultimate Switch, Xenoblade X, Dragon Quest XI, Sonic Switch, Guardians of the galaxy
Still a lot of publishers and expected games unaccounted for, like capcom, koei, Activision, Atlus and EA
Launch:
3D Mario, Skyrim, RabbidsXYoshi RPG, Splatoon, mario sports, Just dance, Lego Land Switch, NBA2K
April: Some WiiU Port (mario maker?) + something new firstparty
May: Mario Kart 8.5
June: Zelda: BotW
And in H2 2017 Pokemon Stars, Pikmin 4, Smash Bros Ultimate Switch, Xenoblade X, Dragon Quest XI, Sonic Switch, Guardians of the galaxy
Still a lot of publishers and expected games unaccounted for, like capcom, koei, Activision, Atlus and EA
Graphics Horse
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I was actually expecting June, but before e3 rather than the day it starts.
When will people understand than no company is your friend. They are only here to make us spend money on their things. They aren't your sweetheart, you best mate Fuck they aren't even that weird ass "friend" you run into once every ten years.
Me? I'm not buying a Switch until they give me what I need yo know before making that purchase.
What's the source of her being blacklisted? First I heard of it.
Jonneh3003
Banned
For sure, we won't remember this wait once we're deep into the game.
Graphics Horse
Member
He can speak for himself here but I don't think that is his MO.
Wait, what's this Mario Sports title you mention for launch?
TannerDemoz
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^ That's the most sensible post I've read on the matter
Graphics Horse
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Twilight Princess had enough goat territory as it is.
mrmickfran
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That ain't so bad. I expected November.
Of course Wii U gets it last. But at least it's a week and not a whole month like Twilight Princess.
But a 3D Mario, then a new Zelda 3 months later? Fuck
Of course Wii U gets it last. But at least it's a week and not a whole month like Twilight Princess.
But a 3D Mario, then a new Zelda 3 months later? Fuck
She reports things earlier than Nintendo wants to, and in turn is encouraging employees from within Nintendo to break Non Disclosure Agreements. Like I've said before, this information is not information that is harmful to the consumer (and no, Pokemon Stars isn't; if that's harmful every GOTY edition is as well), so there is much less moral justification for leaking it. There's evidence to suggest that leaks can directly harm marketing efforts; the last Microsoft E3 showing had much less of an impact because the entire thing was spoiled beforehand; in the very thread full of otherwise level-headed GAF members people were being disappointed just because of that.
Look at it the other way; if Nintendo gave her free games and invited her to exclusive events despite all this then it only encourages more employees to leak despite their NDAs whilst encouraging more journalists to report on it. Nintendo hasn't shown any evidence of wanting to trounce bad reviews or even discussion on their leaks in the past (otherwise GameXplain would be blacklisted as well as they've done both), they're directly going after one of the few people reporting on these leaks. Blacklisting in this sense is not silencing, it's the refusal to help someone any further.
Possumowner
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Sounds good to me
Ah, thought so. Like with BotW(either Switch or Wii U) I guess I'll be debating for a while on either getting it on PC or Wii U.
If only they had you on staff to make them realize the error of their ways.
Mac the KNife
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If that Wii U info is true, no company hates their fans more than Nintendo.
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