Evening Musuko
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And the minute one of us is attacked and fights back, they'll get the blame.
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Seeming surge of hate crimes, assaults, intimidation in wake of Trump victory
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And the minute one of us is attacked and fights back, they'll get the blame.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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Ya, I'm going to think really hard about buying a gun.
Neo Nazis yes; grammar nazis no.
DontBeThatGuy
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Wait, who thought this?
White people ruining it for everyone since 1492
morons thinking we lived in a post-racial society when obama got elected
huhuhuhuuu
jack_package_200
Banned
From me (A straight white male from a middle-upperclass family)
Fuck you and your "economic anxiety" if you voted and supported a sexual assaulting, racist, xenophobic monster for the presidency. You do not get to claim that you are not racist when have enabled a man who is in turn enabling the worst of society. You are a racist when you think only of your fucking taxes and do not care for the rights of others. People only 24 hours after the election ended have begun committing acts of violence and intimidation against people of color, women, and the LBGT. This is only the beginning. This shit is likely to go on for the next four years. Its is your fault. People will get hurt, people will fear for their safety and the safety of those they care about, and likely people will lose their lives at the hands of the people you and Trump emboldened. That blood is on your hands.
I am proud that my university made a statement solidifying their support of marginalized groups and their commitment to keeping bigotry out of the classrooms
Fuck you and your "economic anxiety" if you voted and supported a sexual assaulting, racist, xenophobic monster for the presidency. You do not get to claim that you are not racist when have enabled a man who is in turn enabling the worst of society. You are a racist when you think only of your fucking taxes and do not care for the rights of others. People only 24 hours after the election ended have begun committing acts of violence and intimidation against people of color, women, and the LBGT. This is only the beginning. This shit is likely to go on for the next four years. Its is your fault. People will get hurt, people will fear for their safety and the safety of those they care about, and likely people will lose their lives at the hands of the people you and Trump emboldened. That blood is on your hands.
I am proud that my university made a statement solidifying their support of marginalized groups and their commitment to keeping bigotry out of the classrooms
I'd like to think Northwestern is an inclusive and good school, and I still had to escort a handful of female and/or Muslim students home (late, night time). Nothing happened, thankfully, but the simple fact that such a thing was even thought as necessary is horrifying. I may have to do this regularly for a while and I will oblige every time. Fortunately, I am capable of defending myself and others well enough after years of boxing and jujitsu.
The school has been supportive and openly made very clear, very definitive statements against any hate crimes against anyone for any reason (including why/for whom they voted, which is good). If I see students do this, I have every intention to report them and they will almost certainly be expelled immediately (this is how past incidents have been dealt with in less turbulent times) as well as reported to local police.
We didn't have a rally like down in Chicago, but there were help groups formed and attended.
Thankfully, I haven't seen or heard of any attempts at intimidation or hate so far in our area.
The school has been supportive and openly made very clear, very definitive statements against any hate crimes against anyone for any reason (including why/for whom they voted, which is good). If I see students do this, I have every intention to report them and they will almost certainly be expelled immediately (this is how past incidents have been dealt with in less turbulent times) as well as reported to local police.
We didn't have a rally like down in Chicago, but there were help groups formed and attended.
Thankfully, I haven't seen or heard of any attempts at intimidation or hate so far in our area.
ElRenoRaven
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And reading the thread my heart is broken yet again.
yanipheonu
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It's genuinely concerning we are to something egregiously bad happening. All it takes is someone going just a bit too far.
Just... stay safe guys alright.
I Big JG I
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The worst part is the trump supporters says it's fabricated and then point to the flag burning protest. This is not ok. This country will only get worse. I'm sorry to any victim of hate, not one person should ever have to endure that. Stay strong and be smart.
More_Badass
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Suddenly I worried about my grandfather. We're Puerto Rican, but while me and my nuclear family is pretty light-skinned, he has a much darker complexion, and at least once has been mistaken for a worker on his property. He lives in north Florida (Ocala), and never had problems before, but still...
Angelus Errare
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An absolute shit load of people on both sides (the one time that phrase is apt!)
This is water slowly coming to a boil in a kettle, this type of vitriol and the hatred that spurred it this far, never goes quietly into the night. Sooner or later the last bit of kinetic energy will kick into the pot and the whole kettle will scream.
Hatred has also been emboldened and sees itself as justified, and someone out there is going to lack the proper cognitive inhibitions and rationality to not use their guns (or someone terrified is going to shoot someone attacking them). It won't end well, best be ready for it.
Calm waterfall
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Brexit all over again.
This is going to end horribly and very very soon. This will only feed violence responses as well. It will become a cycle, and there simply aren't enough cops (even counting the already racist/shitty ones who probably silently support this) to even begin to handle it.
In places where there are more minorities who can unite and really fight back, it will become uglier. I really do believe gangs will start actively fighting this and protecting their own. And who can blame them? They're equipped to do so. I'm in no way condoning ANY violence, I just truly believe it will come strongly from BOTH sides once shit really hits the fan.
This will also contribute so massively to ISIS/other terrorist cells recruiting. Doesn't matter what they achieve over there, it'll hit the US really hard. Be it lone wolf attacks or more focused and strategic moves, this only helps them achieve their goals.
These people are literally setting the stage for a type of civil war. I'm a straight white male. I stand behind blacks, minorities, LGQBT, etc. Many of us will.
It's terrible for the economy (y'all ain't getting your jobs back, nor more money/benefits), it's terrible for the environment (for the whole world, and future generations...) and it's terrible for the US in general, for EVERYONE, because all this white on black/brown crime will be answered with the opposite. And there will be white on white crime as well, as many of us don't agree with any of this or respect these people. At one point no one will stop to find out what a person's beliefs, sexuality, or immigration status really are, it'll just be flat out color/perception.
It's horrible. I'm so happy I'm in Canada. I don't even want to go visit family in the US anymore. Fuck all of that. I hope none of this trickles upwards. We have our own racists who were pro Trump. I really hope this doesn't empower them as well. I feel for you guys, so much. I'm so sorry you're living this. 4 fucking years. To even BEGIN to apply bandaids. This will cause enough damage to last my lifetime.
In places where there are more minorities who can unite and really fight back, it will become uglier. I really do believe gangs will start actively fighting this and protecting their own. And who can blame them? They're equipped to do so. I'm in no way condoning ANY violence, I just truly believe it will come strongly from BOTH sides once shit really hits the fan.
This will also contribute so massively to ISIS/other terrorist cells recruiting. Doesn't matter what they achieve over there, it'll hit the US really hard. Be it lone wolf attacks or more focused and strategic moves, this only helps them achieve their goals.
These people are literally setting the stage for a type of civil war. I'm a straight white male. I stand behind blacks, minorities, LGQBT, etc. Many of us will.
It's terrible for the economy (y'all ain't getting your jobs back, nor more money/benefits), it's terrible for the environment (for the whole world, and future generations...) and it's terrible for the US in general, for EVERYONE, because all this white on black/brown crime will be answered with the opposite. And there will be white on white crime as well, as many of us don't agree with any of this or respect these people. At one point no one will stop to find out what a person's beliefs, sexuality, or immigration status really are, it'll just be flat out color/perception.
It's horrible. I'm so happy I'm in Canada. I don't even want to go visit family in the US anymore. Fuck all of that. I hope none of this trickles upwards. We have our own racists who were pro Trump. I really hope this doesn't empower them as well. I feel for you guys, so much. I'm so sorry you're living this. 4 fucking years. To even BEGIN to apply bandaids. This will cause enough damage to last my lifetime.
Riposte
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It's a small conciliation in present but wasn't that a spike that eventually dropped sharply?
Ploid 3.0
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Trump was asked multiple times to denounce support of racist groups and people, in one interview even, and he repeatedly acted like he didn't know who a prominent racist group member was, even after being told who he was. His silence was clear support of those people. This is why they feel he's with them, and enables their behavior. A president of 2016. Trump knew exactly what he was doing, he share supports their beliefs. Heck his slogan supports them.
I don't see how people was blind to this, it was clear as day.
This is what I'm looking forward to. I don't have a gun, and I don't like them. I don't want to harm anyone so I won't even have a baseball bat. I think I will practice having my phone camera ready since it can start with just one button. And I will try to avoid crazy people to the best of my ability. I have a nephew that's 9 and I do worry about him. My two nieces are 1 and a few months old. My brother is currently over seas in Iraq somewhere. His wife and daughter are alone in Tennessee. I hope this doesn't get out of control.
I don't see how people was blind to this, it was clear as day.
This is what I'm looking forward to. I don't have a gun, and I don't like them. I don't want to harm anyone so I won't even have a baseball bat. I think I will practice having my phone camera ready since it can start with just one button. And I will try to avoid crazy people to the best of my ability. I have a nephew that's 9 and I do worry about him. My two nieces are 1 and a few months old. My brother is currently over seas in Iraq somewhere. His wife and daughter are alone in Tennessee. I hope this doesn't get out of control.
yanipheonu
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It's so concerning. It's a complete inability to see the other view, and a complete reliance on excuses for your actions. "I am never wrong." It's poisonous. I'm not sure if it's even capable of being reasoned with.
One thing (of many) I am very worried about is the possibility of Trump trying to follow through with the mass deportation threat. We've not got police forces that can even handle the situations that arise right now in a timely fashion in many places. I can't imagine them also being given the tiny task of breaking up every family with persons who aren't legal citizens and routing them out of their homes.
That's a HUGE number of families (which is heart-breaking and inhumane in and of itself.)
Guess who will be more than ready to help out the boys in blue? The same people committing these hate crimes right now, of course. They will be so emboldened by an executive commitment to this idea that literal militias could start operating overtly in many places. This might sound like paranoid fear-mongering, but I think the sooner we start accepting the fact that nothing is "unthinkable" anymore, the better.
That's a HUGE number of families (which is heart-breaking and inhumane in and of itself.)
Guess who will be more than ready to help out the boys in blue? The same people committing these hate crimes right now, of course. They will be so emboldened by an executive commitment to this idea that literal militias could start operating overtly in many places. This might sound like paranoid fear-mongering, but I think the sooner we start accepting the fact that nothing is "unthinkable" anymore, the better.
Fahzgoolin
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Yo this is straight up disgusting if true. I really doubt most supporters think this evil shit is remotely acceptable. Supporters I know would be appalled and heart broken.
I don't usually contemplate suicide, but when I do I think about America.
Charles Foster Kane
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Youtube has become scarier than ever
Unbelievable
Unbelievable
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
Does that TP dispenser say Make America Groot Again?
Alcotholic
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Trump enabled this. I feel sick. Never is it more apparent than now how lucky I am to be a white male. I'm so disgusted with this country.
Aztechnology
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Assuming you guys area already talking about the mass shooting at the anti-trump rally?
Fulminator
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this makes me want to throw up all over again
disgusting
disgusting
Ploid 3.0
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What? ; ; please please, I hope this isn't true. Oh my god.
Mass Effect
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I think this is more true than we ever realized.
It doesn't fucking matter. It's a lose-lose situation either way. Calling people out only further entrenches and angers them, trying to open a dialogue is met with mocking and resentment.
I honestly don't even know what the solution is anymore. I have one, but...
Oh dear god no.
ElRenoRaven
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Jesus Christ. Just went to look due to your post and sure enough. 5 people shot in Seattle at an Anti Trump protest.
Zvonimir Boban
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Thankfully we didn't have to deal with easy access to firearms.
Goddammit.
Fuck Fuck Fuck.
Please let the people with life threatening injuries pull through.
StickSoldier
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man, this is horrible. People are becoming monsters in the light now.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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There are 50 odd million supporters. How many do you know personally
It wasn't at the rally and wasn't connected to the rally. From the article:
The shooting did not appear to be connected to the anti-Trump demonstrations but instead stemmed from a personal argument, said Robert Merner, assistant chief of the Seattle Police Department.
Carnby
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Aztechnology
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That's good, I had only read a breaking news article previous to that. Just re-linked that as a new source, and had that info. Still sad :/
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