Dr. Kitty Muffins
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I would love it if Sonic Mania hinted that it was the REAL Sonic 4.
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The Xtortionist
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I think they already have. The elevator gag in the pre order trailer threw maximum shade at Sonic 4. No "4" between Knuckles and Mania.
After hearing about that Chemical Planet Zone boss I've had one Zone inclusion at the top of my wishlist:
Toxic Caves from Sonic Spinball
It'd be some good ass funk and be a really unique level theme. Nothing else from that game is really worth saving, though.
Toxic Caves from Sonic Spinball
It'd be some good ass funk and be a really unique level theme. Nothing else from that game is really worth saving, though.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Speaking of which, I haven't been following this game too closely (in most cases, I'd rather just wait for release and play the game than become a slave to the pre-release hype cycle), but does this game mostly consist of remixed classic levels or is there actually a good portion of brand new stuff?
It's got a good chunk of new zones as well, but they're focusing on classic zones in the marketing so to not give them away. We've seen two full new zones, and the returning classic zones are full of new ideas too. Based on what we've seen, act 1 is a remixed version of the original level, while act 2 is something entirely new, just with a familiar backdrop.
60% old. Act 2s of older stages may as well be new stages though from the looks of them. Just as well, the Act 1s seem to be significantly remixed in terms of level design, but with more references.
It ain't the size I'm worried about. It's the eshop possibly being clogged again because of the traffic for a fairly notable, digital-only release.
We were told it's roughly 60/40 classic vs new, and "comparable in length" to S3&K but with more game modes. Act 1 of each classic stage is a tamer remix of the original stage while act 2 is, well, like this.
RecRoulette
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Well goddamn. I'm gonna preorder on a second console now.
DiipuSurotu
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Heya, just to clarify, While Mania was in development, Tee and I talked about a *lot* of things behind the scenes - genres, instrumentation, music theory, the different precedents of Sonic music past and present etc., but all final composition and arrangement decisions for Sonic Mania are solely his. I can't lay credit to any of the genius present. I just make it sound good.
Just so that's clear and it's not being mis-attributed.
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GabeTheGrouch76
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I actually meant to say sound mixing, but the term escaped my train of thought at the time :v
I need a smoke
RomanceDawn
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They know we want it and I have a feeling its already planned to release physically some time after the initial launch. They want those double dippers like me. I aint even mad at em.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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LOL.
I hope to see more of those hints in the game during gameplay. Maybe even a direct shot at Sonic 4 saying it isn't cannon.
Possibly the greatest gaming question of 2017.
GabeTheGrouch76
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The most popular theories I've seen all boil down to that it may be too costly to give this game a physical release, and/or the game's smaller scope doesn't warrant one.
Which I personally don't buy, given a handful of reasons:
a1. This is a Sonic game, which is indisputably Sega's biggest IP
a2. This is not just a Sonic game; but a classic Sonic game, which were runaway commercial successes back in the day (Sonic 1/2 in particular) and still sells today (look at the tons of ports the original games have gotten and how well Taxman's CD remake performed)
b. Sega has given smaller (if not outright niche) games/IPs like Yakuza, Hatsune Miku, and Puyo Pop Tetris (Western) physical releases in recent years
c. A Sega executive has actually said they were looking into a physical release (although this was back in April...)
d. Sega has virtually no other major releases outside Forces and Yakuza Kiwami coming out this year, so it's not like a physical release for Mania would be taking away resources from anything else
e. The Collector's Edition when they were first made available in the US and Europe via Amazon not only rose to the best-sellers list in a few regions (US, UK, France); but actually sold out quickly in Amazon France shortly after going live there. (The Collector's Edition are still sold out on the site, but they can be pre-ordered at other online ventures.)
f. While there's no physical release for the game itself; Sega has given an awful lot of other physical/tangible material to the game--but there's not only the aforementioned Collector's Edition (which has the statue with the sound chip, a card, and a ring), but also clothing merch, posters, an vinyl release for the game's soundtrack, and even game introduction manual leaflets and Mania-labeled drinks (which were at the SDCC event from a couple of weeks ago); having all of this made for Mania but not actually providing a physical release for the game itself is a really bad case of trying to have one's cake and eat it
g. They allowed a sequel to the Sonic Boom games to even be made --let alone get a physical release-- after the first two games bombed heavily. End. Of. Story.
The only other theory I've seen is that they decided that Mania stay a digital exclusive game so it doesn't upstage the main game with Forces....which while asinine, is pretty plausible IMO given Sega/Sonic Team's behaviors and attitudes in the past.
This is the best.
Ristifer
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Might be my favourite gif in existence.
Bucket-o-roadkill
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The day this fucker was announced I felt like we scrambled over to the timeline we all deserve, just 20 years late
Ghost_Messiah
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Triforce141
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I won't be surprised if Stardust Speedway Bad Future is used for Act 2
Unless there's actual time travel elements for the Sonic CD zones, then that'd be a surprise
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
It's also been said it's longer than Generations and about the length of Sonic 3 & Knuckles. So it's looking like it'll be 12-14 stage long, and my personal guess is that there's two zones for Sonic 1, 2, 3&K, & then other each. I say other since CD is never said by name in any of the trailers or bits yet we obviously have a Sonic CD stage, and maybe there's another CD zone or maybe there's some other zone from some other older Sonic game like from the GameGear Sonic titles or something. But that'd make eight returning zones, and allow 4-5 returning zones (and there might be an extra 'special' zone if you get all the chaos emeralds for the real final boss fight).
Where does that put CD, though?
The Xtortionist
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This Act 1 remix... It's so funky. I'm obsessed. I really can't wait to see how this game approaches Stardust Speedway. Based on the other stage's boss fights, I think we're going to see something a bit less expected than Metal Sonic, as much as I always love those races.
I need this sound. I need more of this sound. Act 2 can just be these mouth sounds for every instrument but the horns & bass & I'll be sold.
I need this sound. I need more of this sound. Act 2 can just be these mouth sounds for every instrument but the horns & bass & I'll be sold.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Never enough hues.
The Xtortionist
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Claude Augario
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You can throw me in the crowd that wants some of the Game Gear levels and content revisited. I was hoping they would ever since Generations was announced but nooooo...
But I'm so high on Mania right now that I wouldn't be too bothered if those games got left out again. I've had Stardust Speedway on loop since I heard it and omg what is this game doing to me.
But I'm so high on Mania right now that I wouldn't be too bothered if those games got left out again. I've had Stardust Speedway on loop since I heard it and omg what is this game doing to me.
CampbellzSoup
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I would have loved if Lopes tries to intergrate the US soundtrack for Act 2 that would just be icing on the hedgehog cake
Guys.
What if...
What if they put in a zone from Knuckles Chaotix?
Like, maybe Marina Madness or Botanic Base? Sweet cheddar, imagine Tee doing a remix of the latter especially.
What if...
What if they put in a zone from Knuckles Chaotix?
Like, maybe Marina Madness or Botanic Base? Sweet cheddar, imagine Tee doing a remix of the latter especially.
Obligatory Door Into Summer.
If I had to pick a board from Sonic Spinball I'd pick The Machine:
It has a really nice look to it, and the concept for it originated in the scrapped Cyber City Zone from Sonic 2:
As far as music goes, Lava Powerhouse is the best track in Spinball.
The Xtortionist
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Fanfic time: Newtrogic High Zone. Act 1 is Isolated Island, which transitions into the hub for the mini boss. After the mini boss you launch into Speed Slider or whichever other level the devs want to reference for Act 2, which ends back in the hub where Red Metal Sonic gets a rematch as the boss. The actual gameplay of this zone would have absolutely nothing to do with Knuckles Chaotix, but dat music tho.
I love typing Newtrogic High Zone
Tee Lopes is great. There was like a whole week some time back where I would just listen to the Major Magnet soundtrack repeatedly.
Cell_Biology
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Anyone know if you get the PSN preorder bonuses from preordering off Amazon?
https://www.amazon.com/Sonic-Mania-PS4-Digital-Code/dp/B072JG8SWH/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1501552250&sr=8-4&keywords=Sonic+Mania
https://www.amazon.com/Sonic-Mania-PS4-Digital-Code/dp/B072JG8SWH/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1501552250&sr=8-4&keywords=Sonic+Mania
LimitedTimeGamer
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Simple. CD was a event that happened, but was erased from history with the good future~
RecRoulette
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If any song gets in from the Game Gear versions, it would have to be Scrambled Egg Zone.
Sunset Park Act 3 is really really good though.
Sunset Park Act 3 is really really good though.
andrerobot
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Professor Lexicovermis
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I'd LOVE a Spinball Zone! What if we got an amalgam of all three stages? Act 1 as Toxic Caves, Act 2 as Lava Powerhouse with elements of The Machine?
Elfforkusu
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I have good news for you if the music is all you're after:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THla9_tnK5c
Solid SOAP
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I can see them throwing in... "bonus" zones, if you will, for completing the game. Like levels from more obscure and weird/unfinished games like Chaotix and Crackers, but with level design that's actually doable.
No love for Puppet Panic Zone - Act 2 (Genesis)?
Aaron Strife
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I swear the aesthetic is the only reason I ever revisit this game. Such great music in both versions.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
This is the sole reason to revisit roughly half of Sonic's entire catalog, tbh.
That won't be an issue.
Mr. Smiley
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