EdibleKnife
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Shots fired at Police during Dallas Police anti-violence protest (5 officers killed)
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Sometimes, that's where the fucked up gold is
holygeesus
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There are plenty of weapons in the hands of criminals here though. I'd argue it's a tougher job to police the UK.
i'm sure the isis types love the fact that most of the cops they would encounter are disarmed.
The number of fatal police shootings in the US is ridiculously high for a developed country. Plenty of other countries have high gun ownership and nowhere near those numbers.
Of course not all of the problems resulting in those numbers are on the cops, but i really doubt that there is no margin of improvement there.
holygeesus
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That is why when you walk through London armed police are pretty much everywhere. If ISIS target Leamington Spa though there would be carnage admittedly.
I didn't specify guns. Either way, over here it tends to be farmers and criminals who have all the guns. I wasn't saying we have as many but they are pretty easy to get hold of on the black market if you wanted one.
We have the same rates of crime here (higher I think) and the police have to cope with that without the luxury of the protection of a weapon.
Palculator
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>_>
In that situation you're calling in SWAT regardless of what country you're in.
Dr. Benton Quest
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I see tons of new recruits that only want to hunt and hurt. I see veteran officers who harass poor people all day to further their career. There's definitely a problem.
Frankfurter
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Screaming Meat
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Sorry, thought you were suggesting to the guy you quoted that racism was inherently institutional (for want of a better term).
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Because it's an "assault rifle"
How long is the common police training in the US?
Dr. Benton Quest
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Our Academy is 13 weeks. Then FTO for 10.
I apologize for the slight derail, but does anyone have an article about this?STOP RESISTING!
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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So many shots after his hands were up too... "You dove headfirst", if that's a dive then my 80 year grandpa could have dove harder than that.
Palculator
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Aimed at the torso too. Fucked up.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...s-beating-non-violent-man-during-2014-n506176
"are you hit?"
Motherfucker you were shooting him in the chest from like 2 feet away. Can't believe the guy who was shot took it so calmly.
SolidSnakex
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Did some searching and four of them pled guilty and have been sentenced between a year and a year and two months in prison. The fifth one went to trial and the jury found him not guilty. And before you ask, yes the jury was entirely white. But he's since been arrested again and this time it'll be in state court.
DrForester
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STOP RESISTING!
What ever ended up happening with this case?
Palculator
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I guess since it wasn't vital the adrenaline masked some of the pain. Kind of like that one civilian lady who got hit in the Dallas shooting. Her friend said the first thing she did was secure her children and only really noticed she got hit in the leg afterwards.
On a semi-related note, this general trigger happiness seems completely insane from this side of the globe. I remember an incident on our version of COPS where they saw someone being publicly intoxicated and when they approached him the drunk guy jokingly mimicked a pistol with his hands, shouted "Pull!" and the coppers just laughed and took him to the drunk tank. Seems like that guy would've been nuked in the States.
It's in the link above . All the deputies seem to have been punished and resigned with one facing up to 10 years in prison
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Well seems like something did nerve damage too since he said he lost feeling in his legs which probably helped.
Are you allowed to carry guns in your country though? I would think you're a lot more relaxed when guns aren't that common so it would be really rare to have someone actually carrying a pistol.
I read a post where someone anonymously confessed to failing a student just because they were black.
I read a post where someone claimed that Sandy Hook was a hoax.
I read a post where someone claimed that the Holocaust was greatly exaggerated to garner sympathy.
Someone describing their definition of racism is nowhere near the worst I've seen.
DrForester
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And nothing for the probably dozens of people that covered it up for 2 years?
Trojita
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It's also super gross if she never implied she wanted to sleep with them.
GoldenEye 007
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I agree minorities really can't participate in institutional racism in the United States because there is no inherent power here. However, individual acts can be racist by anyone.
These killings are obviously hate crimes. The killer stated he hated white people and sought to kill them specifically. That is targeting due to race and an actual act to deprave people of their rights.
Ether_Snake
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edit: screw it
Palculator
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Poor guy. Shouldn't have followed the cop's order to get his licence and, most importantly, not resist!
Nah, it's Germany, so you can check where civilian gun ownership is on that chart above. I'd assume they'd be less relaxed if our guns weren't strictly regulated too, but luckily they are. Police are only allowed to use their guns as a last resort too and whenever they fire even a single shot, an officer from internal affairs is sent to the scene to investigate how justified it was.
It's what the Dallas police chief Brown quoted the shooter saying.
Ether_Snake
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The "exterminate" word used wasn't used by the police chief as far as I know, but I won't bother arguing over this.
GoldenEye 007
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These sentiments were released during the Dallas press conferences. Sorry he stated: he was upset and wanted to kill whites. Specifically white officers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/09/us/dallas-police-shooting.html?_r=0
Edit: He used the word kill, not exterminate. But they're basically synonyms of course.
holygeesus
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ProfessorMoran
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I agree. If some racist maniac decided to shoot a bunch of people specifically due to the color of their skin, it's racism, pure and simple. To muddle this into a battle of semantics is to ignore our accountability as human beings to treat each other with respect regardless of race.
Palculator
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Yeah, that's from the article. "Kill" was the actual word, but the best way to get Brown's statements completely unfiltered would be to watch the DPD's archive of that press conference, if you want:
https://www.periscope.tv/w/1YqGoZANoPQKv
Here is the update on Derek Price (the gif police beating) http://www.wuft.org/news/2016/04/20...-deputies-sentenced-in-derrick-price-beating/
My favorite part
GoldenEye 007
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King Gilga
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I mean, there's a reason if my brown/black, latino/hispanic or asian friend says some funny but racist it's more 'hahaha', but if a white friend says it's more 'eeeehhhhh'. Less so if they're european but yeah.
I mean, oreo is used non sexually as well when there's a white person between to black/brown people.
Yeah I don't think this would be an issue if that were the case.
Well the guy said he wanted to kill white people, sounds pretty racist to me, and people were calling it a terrorist attack all that night on several news stations while it was going on. Not in an international type of way, but in a "this is terrifying" type of way. (No one was implying Isis or muslims or anything like that like they usually do in these type of events)
FlammableAce
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Does anyone know where I can find a news archive from when it all broke?
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Don't want to elaborate too much on this, but this guy is former military, so you could frame his desire to "kill white officers" as a revenge attack on those he considered enemies as a result of them having killed black people. It's not clear that this can be labeled a racist attack.
His statement was basically that because white police officers killed black innocent people, he would now target them. That's pretty far from "wanted to exterminate white people".
dumbest thing i have seen today so far.
Yeah, page 1 of this thread and start going through the pages, there is probably some useful links in this very thread.
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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/affN2mI.jpg[/IMG]Alligatorjandro
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I wonder if this is the incident that forces America to confront its racism problems.
Mr. Giggles
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And gun problem.
Trojita
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I mean come on dude. You came in here not even knowing what the police chief said and trying to give your opinion on what the shooters motives were.
These cops were not involved in the incidents you are referring to. (I don't think this is a racist attack but an attach with racial motivation)
lol that is literally the definition of a racist attack.
ProfessorMoran
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The police officers he targeted did not kill black people, for him to target INNOCENT people for the sake of some twisted sense of blanket revenge on white officers in general, that's basically racist on his part.
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