DannyDanger
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I expect an MS exec to tweet the shovel knight dudes and greenlight a retail version.
Good PR
Good PR
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Shovel Knight XB1 Retail Release Cancelled Due To "Publishing Policies"
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YianGaruga
Banned
Breach and Clear. There was a topic yesterday about a company that will be specializing in bringing indie games to retail discs/carts for the PS4 and Vita.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1121596
meanspartan
Member
LordBaztion
Member
So much first class. Thanks Phil.
FranXico
Member
That's what I mean by doing it "at a loss", if you do it in high volumes, the investment per disc is much lower.
Danlord
Member
Retro City Rampage
X has a limited run of physical releases but there's a new company called "Limited Run Games" and they're doing a limited-run (get it... ) of "Breach and Clear" on Vita.Robert from Zeboyd Games has essentially implied Cosmic Star Heroine will be getting a physical copy through this limited run although it's not official.
dancrane212
Member
You should still be taking a profit though with a small print run, just not one to write home about.
Can't imagine disc printings being expensive enough that a couple thousand would be done at a loss.
meanspartan
Member
He needs to demand the authority to just singlehandedly eliminate bullshit policies overnight, if he indeed wants to be helpful.
Go ask Nutella for permission Phil! Getting rid of bullshit like this isn't even about the sales, this won't sell that much. It's about avoiding needlessly bad PR. Minimum print run are you serious? If it passes Cert, that should not be an issue in any way.
GametimeUK
Member
Such disappointing news. This is one of my favourite games of all time. How someone managed to capture the very essence of what I like in a game and what business practices I like to see is remarkable. Double impressive considering the day and age we live in. It's a shame we won't see this on Xbox in physical form, but I'll count myself lucky that I'd rather have it on ps4 anyway.
Retro City Rampage
Robert from Zeboyd Games has essentially implied Cosmic Star Heroine will be getting a physical copy through this limited run although it's not official.
This is awesome, I can think of a couple Indie games I'd buy physical.
Interface23
Member
I wonder what will happen to my Xbox One preorder on Amazon.
Contact Amazon, they should be able to honor the price on a different console as they did for me
Jarod McChicken
Member
For reference, Vblank was able to make a retail release of Retro City Rampage PS4 in 2000 units only.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Cavemen
BananasWithGuns
Member
Even though I have no interest in the physical versions there's absolutely no reason why this should be a thing.
Come on, Microsoft.
Come on, Microsoft.
YuriLowell
Member
What game is getting a 1500 print run?
Flying Toaster
Member
1500 the game.
Breach and Clear
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Has it been confirmed that this is the reason? Completely silly if true.
MS doing all this good work and then taking steps back with these dumb policies
MS doing all this good work and then taking steps back with these dumb policies
samuraidino
Member
Yacht Club are essentially self publishing this right?
Considering the non existant policys (That totally exist) for self publishing a game digitally.... I wonder just how many hoops youve gotta jump through in order to do it physically.
Considering the non existant policys (That totally exist) for self publishing a game digitally.... I wonder just how many hoops youve gotta jump through in order to do it physically.
Acquiescence
Member
Phil Spencer says...
"Reading you loud and clear guys, going to see what I can do to rectify the situation."
"Reading you loud and clear guys, going to see what I can do to rectify the situation."
he didn't really, i can just totally see him writing something like this on twitter
wapplew
Member
EdReedFan20
Member
So, if Microsoft has this minimum printed disc requirement, what does that mean for Kickstarted games that had options for physical games for certain backers? Surely there wouldn't be enough printed discs to meet the requirement. That would make some backers would feel like they were cheated.
Huh. Good point.
What's the first upcoming Kickstarter with Xbox One physical copies?
Jawmuncher
Member
Sounds pretty dumb of MS. Like why would they make such a hassle of it? Might be better to have less at retail than more. They already mess around with their policies as they see fit. So it seems dumb to hold the wall on this one.
Mighty No. 9 does right?
I don't know that there are any to be honest lol. There has to be one though.
Mighty No. 9 got a publisher I think?
Deep Silver is the publisher, like for Bloodstained
SatoAilDarko
Member
We're there originally physical copies announced during the Kickstarter? I thought after?
Bloodstained is the first I know of with copies announced during the Kickstarter but Deep Silver is publishing like with Mighty No. 9.
Yeah. But that's getting a widespread physical distribution, so the Kickstarter copies are probably exactly the same.
No, the Amiibo is coming out after the release of the physical copy.
Ninja Scooter
Member
incoming "Come talk to us" and "We here you" tweets from MS execs
Ah I see. That's an important distinction I didn't know about.
sixteen-bit
Member
That's a shame cuz the X1 content looked pretty cool.
You can still get the content. Just get the digital version.
BumblebeeCody
Member
Never heard of that. As long as it's stil available on Xbox One the we're safe.
It's not that MS cares, it's that tiny publishers can't justify printing a ton of copies if all the data suggests they'll only sell a fraction of their print run. Remember, XB1 only accounts for 5% of their current sales.
Then again, they said XB1 preorders were good, so the bottleneck may well be something completely unrelated to manufacturing expenses.
Oh I fully understand why indies can't justify printing tons of copies.
What I meant is that MS doesn't care about losing the physical copies for the game as long as the game still releases digitally. And they don't care to decrease that minimum print run requirement because if the pub's data doesn't even suggest they can sell through all 50k at least, it's not even worth MS's time.
papercan55
Member
There still is one in place for XB1.
Oh, right. Yeah, I can see that being the case. You'd think the negative PR would cause them to reconsider, but then again, it doesn't seem to have made much difference with regard to some of their other policies...
I can also see it being similar to Nintendo's old WiiWare digital royalty setup, where they think it's a policy that ensures a certain standard of quality but in reality it just causes unnecessary hassle for devs across the board.
Mr. Giggles
Member
Soooo this is a printing issue?
I'm confused, the game is already out on XB1, no?!
I'm confused, the game is already out on XB1, no?!