Crayon
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This seriously can't be true?
http://www.computerworld.com/articl...final-aggressive-windows-10-upgrade-push.html
Yeah. No.
Fuck those people. I'll use that shit when I'm paid to.
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So I woke up this morning to my PC being updated to Windows 10 :(
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Yeah. No.
Fuck those people. I'll use that shit when I'm paid to.
michaelius
Banned
Because they wouldn't be forced to use those means if product was attractive to people.
If the system was good people would flock to it like they did to W7 especially with free upgrade.
The whole Windows 10 thing is so funny, MS is so desperate for everyone to have it. It's a good OS but the way they always shove it on you is like being at a restaurant who just will NOT accept that you don't want his food, or something.
You look away for one second and he's put more food on your plate. That's MS right now.
But honestly it's a good OS so give it a try.
You look away for one second and he's put more food on your plate. That's MS right now.
But honestly it's a good OS so give it a try.
eXistor
Member
It's a good OS, but it's the principle of the thing. Some people just don't wanna upgrade for legit reasons and they're forced to by MS, who just wants 100% control over everything. I dunno what they're planning, but I'm sure their plans include W10. It's a very shitty practice if you ask me.
Seriously?
Wow, talk about breaking with interface standards generally upheld for decades.
The system is good, people didn't "flock" to W7 just like that. It just happened over time since they started killing off XP and 8 sucked (8.1 was pretty good though).
What I do agree on is that people would be more receptive if MS stopped shoving it down everyone's throat all the time.
I suggest using DWS for example though with Win10 to gain easy control over the spying of sorts. (Destroy Windows Spying, google it)
echoshifting
Banned
I'm a big fan of W10, but wow, this is some incredibly disingenuous bullshit. No better than a seedy popup ad that opens a window when you try to close it.
y'all don't have to defend this, really
I'm on Windows 10, and I like it, but this is ridiculous.
Insanity.
I'm on Windows 10, and I like it, but this is ridiculous.
This seriously can't be true?
http://www.computerworld.com/articl...final-aggressive-windows-10-upgrade-push.html
Insanity.
Why would you do that?
Member
This seriously can't be true?
http://www.computerworld.com/articl...final-aggressive-windows-10-upgrade-push.html
That's funny, because that's how the security updates in Windows 10 work. They basically say "This is when the update is scheduled to happen, and you can change when it happens in this window if you'd like" instead of saying "Would you like to install the updates?" which is what we used to see.
Congrats, Windows 10 is a fantastic OS once you turn off the annoying advertising/tracking BS.
Go to Settings, Privacy and turn off everything in the General page, turn off Location in location section, and in the Feedback and Diagnostic section turn it to Basic. Here is a guide. Do step 7 if you want to be absolutely sure no telemetry data is collected.
Go to Settings, Privacy and turn off everything in the General page, turn off Location in location section, and in the Feedback and Diagnostic section turn it to Basic. Here is a guide. Do step 7 if you want to be absolutely sure no telemetry data is collected.
CertifiedFP
Member
The sooner we get everyone over to Windows 10, the sooner games stop being held back by old DirectX versions.
Face it Tiger..
Banned
Windows 10 is great.
forget the naysayers.
forget the naysayers.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
W10 is a nice, lubed ass fucking though. I think OP will enjoy it immensely.
I can't think of a single reason to stick with W7.
Danis Saur
Member
Exactly yesterday my PC tried to update by itself when I shut it down. "Now Installing Windows 10" - I freaked out and forced shut the computer. Saved myself from that...
Mr. Giggles
Member
Ah yes, the old "I didn't get a 'no'" technique see this a lot in rape cases.
MS raped your PC OP
Lol, jk
MrCunningham
Member
It will still take a while before the majority user base is up to date with DX12 compatible cards.
I was in the W10 is a good OS camp for a really long time, until a latest update completely wrecked the whole OS, and I had no way of refusing that update specifically. Uninstalling that single update didn't work as it automatically installed it with the next reboot. Deferring updates didn't work because it was a security update. I had to completely disable the Windows update service and willingly put its security to risk, just in order to use my own computer.
Bad OS is bad. For different reasons than usual, but bad nonetheless.
Bad OS is bad. For different reasons than usual, but bad nonetheless.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
This topic reminds me how relaxed we've become over time with data-mining.
michaelius
Banned
You mean the sooner we get rid of DX11 api which makes sure our games work properly 10 or 20 years in the future?
You can easily disable it to prevent Microsoft from doing so in W10.
Some of you really suck when it comes to dealing with this issue. Dont install the update that nags you to install win10 and leads to this whole problem. Why is that so hard? I have my parents figuring this out. Dont install the number 83353 [Edit: KB3035583] or whatever the hell it was. Done.
Worst case if you have win 10 now is use that program that turns off all the data mining. Then play cat and mouse with windows updates.
Worst case if you have win 10 now is use that program that turns off all the data mining. Then play cat and mouse with windows updates.
Honestly, today I just let Windows 10 do it's thing and install on my laptop. Was tired of the pop ups and general annoyance, so I just did it. Microsoft won on that strategy lol.
With the install, I lost nothing and my now 6 year laptop is running faster than it was on Windows 7 (it also pruned some old programs that aren't supported on 10, basically bloatware I never got around to uninstalling).
I'm pretty impressed so far exactly 1 hour into my OS experience.
With the install, I lost nothing and my now 6 year laptop is running faster than it was on Windows 7 (it also pruned some old programs that aren't supported on 10, basically bloatware I never got around to uninstalling).
I'm pretty impressed so far exactly 1 hour into my OS experience.
CertifiedFP
Member
If you're implying DX12 is linked to UWP...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_support
Only a few of these are UWP, with a larger percentage being non-UWP Steam exclusives.
Also, DX12 has resulted in massive performance gains for Dolphin with so far only basic implementation. Last I checked, it's not a UWP either.
And last I remember, DX11 was garbage.
Nostremitus
Member
Ubuntu is a fine operating system. 
I don't mind Windows 10, it does the job... but hopefully Vulkan brings about more gaming options for Linux. I dual boot and would rather be on Linux, honestly.
I don't mind Windows 10, it does the job... but hopefully Vulkan brings about more gaming options for Linux. I dual boot and would rather be on Linux, honestly.
Everyone claiming that this is a good thing likely uses their PC for lite tasks or games.
When you run a lot of programs that will likely have compatibility issues with newer OS versions, or your workflow has a heavy reliance on old plugins and OS shell integration that is no longer supported by the developer, updating to a new OS becomes a very involved process. If I woke up to this automatically happening like OP did, I would freak the fuck out.
When you run a lot of programs that will likely have compatibility issues with newer OS versions, or your workflow has a heavy reliance on old plugins and OS shell integration that is no longer supported by the developer, updating to a new OS becomes a very involved process. If I woke up to this automatically happening like OP did, I would freak the fuck out.
I have XP as a boot option as well for certain software; still one of the best versions of Windows.
SirMossyBloke
Member
It's like waking up with an extra $20,000 in the bank then going on to GAF to complain about it.
MrCunningham
Member
Ubuntu is a fine operating system.
I don't mind Windows 10, it does the job... but hopefully Vulkan brings about more gaming options for Linux. I dual boot and would rather be on Linux, honestly.
Yeah, I have pretty much switched back to Linux Mint 17.3 as my main OS and I am much happier overall with the experience that I get on this OS over what I get on Windows. The only thing that has been holding me back from completely reformatting my Windows drive is that I still use the OS for gaming.
This.
The W10 may be the best OS ever, but if I don't want to update, I don't want to update. If I tell it no, it should remember that and stop trying to force the update.
That almost sounds like a passive aggressive insult, you don't do any real work on your PC so you guys don't care! (although I doubt that was your real intent, lol)
Guess what, I still use various older statistical/graphing software on my PC and they still work great on W10, same with a program that renders molecules/proteins, FlowJo for flow cytometry, and this program I used to render images from an image based cytometry. So people who use their computer for real work also can use W10 successfully ;p.
This seriously can't be true?
http://www.computerworld.com/articl...final-aggressive-windows-10-upgrade-push.html
So now even the little X in the top right corner is open to "interpretation?" Hilarious.
LOLWUT? Even if Windows 10 was the most amazing thing ever to exist, wtf Microsoft; guess it does tie in with Windows 10's inability to maintain consistency. I can't even be mad anymore, just waiting for the news story that Microsoft sends thugs to beat up someone's family until they install Windows 10.
Congrats on it working for you?
Yeah, I realized how insulting it sounded after I posted it. :S
It's just that a lot of programs have compatibility issues with a newer OS, especially if they're no longer supported, so upgrading to a new Windows becomes a long process of checking into everything you use beforehand. I'm glad you got the programs you use working for you though.
Crayon
Member
Ubuntu is a fine operating system.
I don't mind Windows 10, it does the job... but hopefully Vulkan brings about more gaming options for Linux. I dual boot and would rather be on Linux, honestly.
Ubuntu is beaaaauuuuutiful. I spend almost all my time there and that includes gaming time. Not perfect, but as an enthusiast of general computing, just a much much more enjoyable environment.
But I do keep a drive with win 7 that is strictly for serving games thru inhome streaming. I use it maybe every few weeks?
I have my update settings that make me approve even just the downloads so I'm safe from the upgrade. I understand 10 is probably better than 7 but for what I use my computer for, I don't care. and I know for a fact that some of the weird drivers I had to set up for things like my game controller and headphones are going to be fucked up if I upgrade and I'm way too lazy to reconfigure things so they work in 10.
Funny to see Windows going this hard to get people to upgrade though, must be jealous of iOS update rates.
Funny to see Windows going this hard to get people to upgrade though, must be jealous of iOS update rates.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
W10 is fine, I personally wouldn't go back to an older version now and I've not encountered any problems since upgrading. Plus stuff like DX12 support for gaming and upto date software is never normally a bad thing.
Exactly. That's shaddy as fuck; the same tactics malware use to infect PCs. If people don't want Windows 10, don't force them.
Personally, I've tried Windows 10 for... less than 12 hours at the end of 2015. There were so much design flaws on top of having a copy-paste issues (ie. Not all files would be copied from target to destination) that I decided to go back to Win7 where I have 0 issues. You can read my rant here here (Or Page 5, 12th post from the top). A lot of people will probably disagree with my opinions here or will find workaround for me. I don't care about workaround. I don't like Win10 PERIOD. Win7 for life.
mugurumakensei
Member
Let's not get crazy here. DX11 wasn't garbage. AMD's drivers weren't good for it, but AMD also sucks for OpenGL.
DX12 really only has low level API going for it over DX11. Most(All?) of the HW featuresets are exposed in both. You just choose how much management you want to do.
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