with the vita out, it will be easier for Nintendo but mobile is a juggernaut.
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Sony: climate "not healthy" for PlayStation Vita successor
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with the vita out, it will be easier for Nintendo but mobile is a juggernaut.
IchigoSharingan
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where phone gaming dominates harder
As long as we get some cool niche japanese games, indies, and smaller downloadable only PS familly titles, I am cool with Vita staying around a couple more years. It's not like the titles releasing on the platform are pushing the boundaries of the hardware anyway atm, so what would be the point of a more powerful system ?
Stone Ocean
Member
Nintendo still has their own "Minecraft" in Pokemon so that should sustain their hardware for a while still as basically the only one doing dedicated handhelds as long as they don't fuck it up.
As for other devs supporting handhelds that's up in the air. Depends on what the NX is and how Nintendo's mobile ventures turn out, I guess.
Maintenance
Member
Most of my playtime is on handhelds, so RIP playing on the go. Hopefully NX has a handheld version, but I'm not going to bet.
The fact that the psp got so many titles for such a long time did hurt the Vita a ton.
Mobile is the new handheld, no chance for others. Mobile has killed Ps Vita and 3DS sales although 3DS still sells ok i guess.
The market we know will be split into 3 in the future:
Mobile (Simple and fun F2P Games, some gems like Nintendo games on it -> Pokémon and such)
Console (PS5, Xbox Two and NX)
Pc (Mainly because games Like Dota, CS, League and other Mobas and competitive FPS that will drive Pc)
The market we know will be split into 3 in the future:
Mobile (Simple and fun F2P Games, some gems like Nintendo games on it -> Pokémon and such)
Console (PS5, Xbox Two and NX)
Pc (Mainly because games Like Dota, CS, League and other Mobas and competitive FPS that will drive Pc)
Nobody owns a Vita for Sony games.
flipswitch
Member
True, but it's the only region where its charting.
bigbaldwolf86
Banned
I love my Vita.
I wish the rest of the world loved Vita too
I wish the rest of the world loved Vita too
Actually, it wouldn't be a bad thing to bet on. Like I said earlier, Nintendo's slowing down 3DS support & unifying their development teams for a reason.
On-topic, the Vita at my friend's house was mainly a portable UMvC3 & P4G machine to him, but it's still sad to see Sony leave the market.
cj_iwakura
Member
Soul Sacrifice is a really, really good one.
odhiex
Member
I really wanted a psvita since it's announcement, and had been waiting for so long to get something like PSVita 3000 at least (well, also that Memory card price is the major hurdle for me)
After this year's Sony's TGS, I realised that it wouldn't be happening for a while. So I finally purchased the 2000 model, now i love it so much.
Please keep supporting this beautiful piece, Sony!
After this year's Sony's TGS, I realised that it wouldn't be happening for a while. So I finally purchased the 2000 model, now i love it so much.
Please keep supporting this beautiful piece, Sony!
Smart devices are more than enough to keep Nintendo on their toes.
flipswitch
Member
I'll just add the Vita had the best launch games ever imo.
Petrae
Member
Pretty much. Nintendo's success with its next handheld is far from a given, in a world where mobile has supplanted dedicated handhelds as the preferred method of gaming on the go for most consumers. Nintendo will still play to the dedicated handheld niche (as there is still a bit of money there), but expectations should be tempered.
It was "abandoned" because the sales were abyssal. For the second year (2013), there was very good internal efforts like Little Big Planet or Killzone: Mercenary and they did nothing.
You can't put seeds in a desert expecting to grow flowers, there is no space for a "Vita" anymore. Period. And I say this as someone with two of them who absolutely loves the system, but you have to be realistic. Mobile is everything, and the shrinking space for a dedicated handheld will be for Nintendo, who has the IPs and the teams appropriated for making it work.
fuzzyreactor
Banned
Good handhelds are obsolete. They need to dedicate resources to mobile phone gaming rather than a dedicated Handheld
KampferZeon
Neo Member
In the last Tokyo Game show, there are actually more psvita games (6x) than 3DS (3x). partly because PS4 and vita ccompatibility.
Honestly I don't think we need a vita 2. I will be happy if sony just keep supporting it for the next 5 to 10 years
Presumably vita games development are still too expensive for some Japanese publishers because of its HD resolution. Very slowly it is being adapted. Capcom is finally releasing its popular Gundam vs gAME next year
Honestly I don't think we need a vita 2. I will be happy if sony just keep supporting it for the next 5 to 10 years
Presumably vita games development are still too expensive for some Japanese publishers because of its HD resolution. Very slowly it is being adapted. Capcom is finally releasing its popular Gundam vs gAME next year
Canis lupus
Member
The Vita is a lifeline for many 3rd party devs in Japan, I doubt we won't see a successor at least in that market. I think selling a couple million there can sustain the platform. Without Vita we wouldn't have a good chunk of Japanese games on PS4 now.
Fair enough
If what a good chunk of GAF have been speculating comes true, then the next handheld will likely be part of the NX Platform. In this scenario, the NX Handheld would share its games with the console & (in the most likely scenario) let the console piggy-back off of the handheld (since the console likely won't sell that well). Essentially, the NX Handheld is probably gonna sell more than the NX Console, & combining both of their libraries would enable Nintendo to cut down on software droughts & provide their games a life-raft in case the dedicated gaming handheld market truly goes sour.
FlutterPuffs
Member
He's right.
It's sad.
But he's right.
It's sad.
But he's right.
Vita will be relevant in Japan for quite some time more. PSP was well supported by Japanese publishers all the way up to Vita's launch, and then some. With no successor in sight, and with easy porting opportunities to PS4, I think Vita will remain relevant for some more years in Japan. It had a pretty good TGS showing.
My worry would be localization, where PS4 has an immense install base and Vita a niche base. Will PS4-Vita games get localized together or will Vita be lost in the process?
Stilton Disco
Member
I adore my Vita, it's possibly my favourite games system ever, full stop.
But yeah, Sony would be insane to make a follow up device.
Hell, I'm not expecting Nintendo to manage half the sales for the NX handheld worldwide that they'll end up with for the 3DS. Mobiles have taken the kiddy and casual Market that made handhelds viable, and theyre not giving them back.
But yeah, Sony would be insane to make a follow up device.
Hell, I'm not expecting Nintendo to manage half the sales for the NX handheld worldwide that they'll end up with for the 3DS. Mobiles have taken the kiddy and casual Market that made handhelds viable, and theyre not giving them back.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Yeah, kind of funny when you compare it to the PS4 launch.
That's what I'm scared of the most, worst case scenario they transition to mobile.
lol
The budget are vastly different.
Ganzlinger
Member
Let the Vita live. Keep the games coming, Japan.
Funyarinpa
Member
I can't help but think that Sony is going to try portable/mobile gaming in at least some form. It has done them good in Japan, and Sony has been trying to push portable gaming for quite some time, even when it made absolutely no sense for it.
Of course the next non-portable handheld that isn't from Nintendo could be around a decade off.
Of course the next non-portable handheld that isn't from Nintendo could be around a decade off.
A lifeline of 4 million? Most Japanese publishers have done themselves a disservice by strongly backing Vita and the real result is they've backed themselves into a corner. The system hasn't taken off and offers a niche marketplace at best, there's no future successor on the horizon, and now most supporters are being shepherded into dead end home console support. Vita was a mistake in most cases.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Zombie James
Banned
And they're right. The writing's on the wall for dedicated handhelds, IMHO.
How about the ever growing smartphone market which has an install base of almost 2 and a half billion?
The 3ds hardware is the most shameful console ever produced by a top tier game firm. Close second being the Wii.
And they had competition. Nintendo literally gives no fuck.
KampferZeon
Neo Member
In case u didn't notice, Sony already has its NX platfom.
Its the PS4 and vita combo.
BTW. I hope the Nintendo handheld device to be a lot more powerful. The 3DS is just too weak
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
dude is right and at least hes honest about it.
JordanN
Banned
It's not.
That's actually the big reason why Vita failed. The games cost too much that selling them for $40 is just not viable for AAA.
With Vita 2, it's now $60 handheld games vs $60 home console ones. It's an act of cannibalization that benefits no one.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Sony's attitude isn't healthy for a Vita successor
Chill Penguin
Member
If they had unique, compelling software that you can't experience anywhere else like Nintendo, I think a Vita 2 could be viable. Even Nintendo took a massive hit with the 3ds, but it was relatively successful at ~55 million.
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