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Sony doesn't allow Fallout 4/Skyrim mods on PS4
- Thread starter dex3108
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Or you stop modding because it stops being fun.
No mods on PS4 because you could have your identity stolen? Is this the angle you are taking?
If a Fallout 4 mod could steal personal information from a PS4, Sony has big problems. Since they were wanting Bethesda to QA the mods (and not themselves) I'd say stolen user info wasn't on their radar. That would be Sony's problem if it happened and I highly doubt they would let Bethesda QA mods if that was a concern of theirs.
We don't know for sure?
Probably because Sony doesn't want things on their system that can cause a system crash, or some other thing. I am not some technical wizard, I just play games.
And I was just here for the bish post, I don't even own fallout 4
mrhyderager
Member
You can tell I'm relatively new here because I don't know what that means.
Fair enough. If this is the issue, I still view this as Sony basically blocking it by being unreasonable.
I still wouldn't say they are lying, but you are right that if this is actually the issue Bethesda needed to be more up front and explain that. I'm sure they could easily justify their view, but by not providing more info it could be considered deceptive. "Sony won't let us!" vs "Sony will only let us if we do something that we find to be impossible and ridiculous!". There is indeed a difference.
wesleyshark
Banned
Randy Savage dragons gon' wipe your bank account clean
Yep reading it with the new statement pretty much supports that theory. They may be able to work around the tech issues but Sony wanting QA for the mods being released is something Beth doesn't want to deal with.
Yes. A lot when I had a gaming PC. Will also be doing so next Friday when my new one comes.
It's not unreasonable though. And it doesn't HAVE to be a risk. You clearly don't understand.
Way to take my words and mix them up. Things can go wrong and Sony simply wanted the mods on PS4 to be checked for crashes and bugs etc.
Completely true statements, you mean.
sensible chuckle
ArchedThunder
Banned
I wouldn't be surprised if the only testing Sony wanted was something as simple as booting the mod up and fiddling with it for a little bit.
Why would they do that just for Sony? This seems to be unnecessary extra work just for one platform.
Shin
Banned
News sites are already running with this and people are doing the same thing as they are in this thread, flame, blame, end of the world and bla bla.
Would be nice to get the full story, maybe a response from Sony even.
Not that I care about either titles to be honest, still don't even have a PS4.
These types of things get out of hand really fast and people take it as face value.
Would be nice to get the full story, maybe a response from Sony even.
Not that I care about either titles to be honest, still don't even have a PS4.
These types of things get out of hand really fast and people take it as face value.
disappeared
Banned
Back in June when I had money for either an xb1 or a ps4, console mods were a pretty big factor in my decision. I nearly got a ps4 thinking, "it'll only be a month or so before they're supported". Jeez.
dragonflys545
Member
It means the source is real.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Actually, it is. I was just forwarded this from a very strong source.
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_/¯timetokill
Banned
Again, even those (approved) statements aren't like an excuse for Sony. It just means that Sony has effectively banned all mods from PlayStation, because NOBODY is going to have the capacity to vet user mods.
Angle? I'm simply stating that running random code is a security risk, esp if no one is doing q&a.
Oh yes, it was always there and I don't know why this isn't stressed more. But again, it doesn't fit the narrative because Bethesda.
Ryzaki009
Member
And that's okay. But if you want to mod you have to put some effort in. It's part of modding.
Then you should be well aware of the fact that some mods will make the game crash/freeze/act unpredictability and this only goes up due to people not reading the readme thus user error. That's part of modding. Especially bethesda games.
Farming Simulator apparently does. Clearly they are a bigger company then Bethesda.
Couldn't they just QA select mods? Seems like some would be very simple to test. Or does Sony want them to test each one together as well. Since we have so little information it's kind of infuriating. I can understand Sony wanting to keep people from crashing ps4 and I can understand how unreasonable it is to expect that from Bethesda for thousands of mods.
It's Bethesda's fault that Sony put unrealistic restrictions on mods.
I got this reference.
CyberPunked
Member
This is ridiculous. Sony are asking for Bethesda to provide an impossible solution. There is no way to QC mods, as even if a given mod is bug free, there is no way to assure that the infinite permutations of mod combinations will be.
I don't think anyone is suggesting that this clears Sony in anyway, it just means the situation is not so black and white.
Bishtopl, one of the main mods on the site when he see a poster claiming something that coild be big or something usally poster want the person to be verified.
Bish will then send a PM to the poster asking for info, credentials what ever to prove that the stuff they said is creditable.
They most likely have a certain time to respond and when they do Bish will check to see if the info is good or not.
If good, hes says stuff checks out if not person will most likely be banned
SolarMystic
Member
It is unreasonable. I don't think you understand just how many and how complex elder scrolls/fallout mods are.
Bethesda would likely have to hire a whole new department just for testing ps4 user mods.
If the request is logically impossible, then it is unreasonable.
Portugeezer
Gold Member
Time for everyone to get a refund on their digital copies.
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Not.
Imagine you have a 100 mods. So first you have to check if any of those crash the game during any ocassion. After that's done you have to check if those mods conflict with each other, which means crosschecking every single one of 100. Then you add a new mod and you have to test it again with those 100 other mods. The numbers are basically rising exponentially
(And if Sony doesn't require cross check then you'll have crashing consoles anyway)
Ban Puncher
Member
Actually, it is. I was just forwarded this from a very strong source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvGXCisAaR4
Zombie James
Banned
I'm sorry but I have zero problems with asking Bethesda to QA their shit. I know QA would be a huge challenge for them having never done any, but at some point enough is enough.
Yeah, and Bethesda it's on their rights of non use extra work just for PS4 mods.
But from "Sony doesn't allow us to release mods on Fallout 4" to "Sony only allow us tested mods and we "can't" afford it" it's a world of difference.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
So Bethesda, about this being Sony's fault again?
timetokill
Banned
I'm very curious about how their mods are handled because I'd bet that they don't do anything near as complex as the typical mod for a Bethesda game. And I'd imagine they don't have any possible conflicts with other mods. Does it have any scripts involved in their mods? I don't know -- I'm actually curious.
But anyway, I hope you guys enjoy Farming Simulator.
I don't get what's so hard to understand about Sony wanting mods to be QA checked. Simply employ a team of 10-5. Check each mod for an hour (depending on what it is) each person checks a different mod. Working 8 hours a day you can get 120+ mods done per day.
Sony just wanted a better experience. Dumb more, yes. Made me pissed off, yes. Understandable, yes.
The Bethesda defense force is strong today. Try to look at the situation whole. Mods don't have to be crashing systems. We've only accepted that they do because that's the norm.
Sony just wanted a better experience. Dumb more, yes. Made me pissed off, yes. Understandable, yes.
The Bethesda defense force is strong today. Try to look at the situation whole. Mods don't have to be crashing systems. We've only accepted that they do because that's the norm.
To be fair I don't see the money issue here, they're going to lose sales over this...
DryvBy
Member
Actually, it is. I was just forwarded this from a very strong source.
I remember reading similar issues too when the mods first launched. PS4 had mods for a while and there were tons of problems. Even save corruptions if I remember.
It is not if the code is running in a closed environment, running in another closed environment, running in another closed environment. While the code is not random at all.
wapplew
Member
Maybe farming simulator mod is limited and easier to QC? Plus fallout 4 must have much higher amount of mods making it impossible to QA.
timetokill
Banned
Do you really think that you can check a mod in an hour and test whether it is compatible with every other mod and ensure it passes QA? :lol
the sooner you realize this is true for nearly all companies, the better. no company is your friend