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Sony to cut TV, Smartphone lineup; sees growth in PlayStation, image sensors
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geordiemp
Member
I bought a W905 last year.
Best gaming TV on the market.
Samsungs and LG's have horrible input lag = TV only
Problem is they don't market these benefits very well - you have to find out by reading stuff like HDTV test
The processing in Sony and Panny Tv's is great and fast.
I would love a 1080p OLED with fast image processing and low input lag. There are no options in the market at the moment.
Sony please,,,
Pankratous
Member
I just don't understand why people aren't buying Sony phones. I can forgive America because they are always slow to release there and have stupid carrier exclusivity deals but man, the rest of the world is making a giant mistake by not going Sony. They are blatantly the best unless you absolutely must have vanilla Android.
TVs are incredible as well but yes, pricing is a huge issue for them.
TVs are incredible as well but yes, pricing is a huge issue for them.
Stone Ocean
Member
Smart move. Now maybr Sony can see some profit again
Nikodemos
Member
Amazingly fucktarded marketing deals and the unwillingness to go the distance with US carriers (which, admittedly, are very demanding).
Well IN Germany i found that they are the best TV you can get and are the same prize as the other companies Tv's
I know we'll never get it but I'd love some detailed numbers on how PS+ does. Subscribers, retention, downloading habits are all things I'd love to know more about. Same goes for Xbox Live.
Agreed. Samsung is fantastic with image quality, but you can't beat Sony with gaming.
Although I always checked out Sony's offerings, I purchased only Samsung TV's for eons now because the price for the quality just couldn't be beat. But I've always wondered whether Sony couldn't afford to compete on price better, or simply refused to reduce margins because of a lack of foresight. If the latter, it's a real shame.
Nightengale
Member
It's one of multiple things they're doing. They're not suddenly 'hurrrr non-gaming!"
The slides are here :
http://imgur.com/a/i5Ae3
They are cutting the lineup not the division.Bought my Sony HDTV in June. Gonna be sad to see them go, Sony tvs have served me well since a child.
People read the OP.
John Bender
Banned
Only announcements so far. What Reuters details here are plans which are supposed to be revealed in 2015 by Sony. Till this point they will keep bleeding money.
FF Seraphim
Member
I am a huge Sony product fan, almost everything in my entertainment center is Sony, however there is very little difference I can see in image quality versus Samsung and Samsung is generally cheaper.
Sony built high end tvs but the market for such things has changed.
Begaria
Member
We actually do know that number. It's 7.9 million Playstation Plus subscribers:
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/playstation-plus-reaches-7-9-million-subscribers/1100-6423306/
I'm genuinely worried for Sony. It's a well known fact that Sony has been floating on the verge financial collapse for awhile now, but relying on the Playstation brand is a little crazy when it's not a high profit sector anyway. It's a gamble that won't pay off even if it goes to plan.
I suppose for Microsoft this could be the killer move. It's been reported that since the price cuts that the Xbox One has been destroying the Playstation in North American and Europe. If Microsoft can pull of the killer blow this upcoming year, I could seriously see the Xbox One killing Sony.
If it were to happen, I can see Sony selling virtually everything except for the high profit sectors like Insurance. Dare I say, that we could see Naughty Dog being sold to Microsoft along with the IPs? This could genuinely be an exciting generation for Microsoft gamers, with Last of Us 2 or Uncharted 5 coming to the Xbox One entertainment system.
I suppose for Microsoft this could be the killer move. It's been reported that since the price cuts that the Xbox One has been destroying the Playstation in North American and Europe. If Microsoft can pull of the killer blow this upcoming year, I could seriously see the Xbox One killing Sony.
If it were to happen, I can see Sony selling virtually everything except for the high profit sectors like Insurance. Dare I say, that we could see Naughty Dog being sold to Microsoft along with the IPs? This could genuinely be an exciting generation for Microsoft gamers, with Last of Us 2 or Uncharted 5 coming to the Xbox One entertainment system.
Forgive me for not knowing exactly what that means? If they are cutting the lineup, will there be a new one?
Yea they are keeping the Divisions, just cutting back on them.
I'm actually anxious to see the New TV lineup since they all will be built with Android TV. Also the Xperia line is looking better and better, plus with Sony opening there devices up to the Dev community.
Less phones, focus on highend. Same thing which Samsung revealed recently and where LG/Apple already are.
Tiny steps, years too late.
Nikodemos
Member
Yep. There will be fewer models (with better cost-profit ratios for Sony). Same with phones.
Dougieflesh
Member
Yikes didn't know about input lag til this thread. I always put my ps4 and xbone on "game mode" when I play. Maybe that helps a little or my eyes are just untrained to the whole situation.
John Bender
Banned
I'm laughing my ass off
Begaria
Member
Thanks for the clarification.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Oh you.
DrROBschiz
Member
Does this mean ill be able to snag a Z3 compact for dirt cheap soon?
Its a damn solid phone
Its a damn solid phone
Couchaddict
Member
They do make pretty good CMOS sensors.
Saint Gregory
Member
OK, that looks considerably better than what's in the quote. Faith (somewhat) restored.
Yeah they are reducing the the amount of new tvs and phones they are making.
wapplew
Member
Not really, Z series each have one or two flaws with it, they never put every tech they own into one phone ever,just because they don't want hurt other product sales.
Z3 is pretty close though.
Giant Panda
Member
I'm hoping Zomg makes an appearance in this thread to give his analysis.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
lol isn't it basically...
Sony: PS4 please save us!!!!
Which admittedly seems to be happening. Their stock hasn't been this high in years, right?
Sony: PS4 please save us!!!!
Which admittedly seems to be happening. Their stock hasn't been this high in years, right?
Astral/H3X
Member
And no one is talking about the cameras, which is what I'm interested in. Glad that they're not considering ditching those, I love my Sony camera and hope to (someday) upgrade to an A7.
Stereogatari
Banned
Quality wise no. Sony's TV's continue to get glowing reviews, they're just as good in the AV market as they've historically been known for. Their problem is Samsung's marketing has been far, far better.
LOL.
alexandros
Banned
Smart moves.
gundamkyoukai
Member
People that like Sony have nothing to worry about .
This is something people have been saying they should have done years ago .
Get out of the volume market for a while and just think about making profit .
Cut down the number of TV and Phone they making , the low end phones is why the lose some much money this year .
This is something people have been saying they should have done years ago .
Get out of the volume market for a while and just think about making profit .
Cut down the number of TV and Phone they making , the low end phones is why the lose some much money this year .
CitizenCope
Member
This only means one thing. Making room for that $500 mil budget for The Last Gaurdian.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
It's a change of scenery for Sony in regards to growth and profitability for Sony in their gaming business comparatively to the first few years of the PS3 & PSP era. I'm happy for them
However, what was the purpose of buying Ericson's stake in their mobile division, only to cut back on their investment years later? They bought it for a billion, only to have a markdown of a billion the following year?
Granted, it is an extremely competitive environment with Samsung and Apple dominating so I can see why they would want to do that, but they should have seen that eventuality back then.
However, what was the purpose of buying Ericson's stake in their mobile division, only to cut back on their investment years later? They bought it for a billion, only to have a markdown of a billion the following year?
Granted, it is an extremely competitive environment with Samsung and Apple dominating so I can see why they would want to do that, but they should have seen that eventuality back then.
Well, that's a start at least. I'd like to know more specifics though like how many of those subscribers actively use the service on what systems. I spend a lot of time at work looking at data though so they'll never provide the level of granularity I'd want out of this information.
Ah ok. Seems like a good move here.
Playstation isnt the only thing keeping Sony afloat........