Pankratous
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Sony to cut TV, Smartphone lineup; sees growth in PlayStation, image sensors
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Does this count as trolling? It has to, surely...
Tempesta di Fuoco
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It's a change of scenery for Sony in regards to growth and profitability for Sony in their gaming business comparatively to the first few years of the PS3 & PSP era. I'm happy for them
However, what was the purpose of buying Ericson's stake in their mobile division, only to cut back on their investment years later? They bought it for a billion, only to have a markdown of a billion the following year?
Granted, it is an extremely competitive environment with Samsung and Apple dominating so I can see why they would want to do that, but they should have seen that eventuality back then.
Sony has been extremely incompetent in most of their divisions for over 10 years. Their Ericsons abomination is no different.
bigboss370
Member
kind of disappointing. Sony TVs and smartphones have been pure quality in my experience. But if this is just temporary to make profit over the next 3 years then more power to em.
Patapwn
Member
This is a terrible post with lots of nonsense. You should really know better
unless sarcasm?
1st Course
Member
Game and Camera are the only markets Sony leads on today, make sense they would focus on them.
John Bender
Banned
Funny, isn't it!?
People talking about stuff they have no clue about.
Why does the 8th slide contain Puppeteer and Demon's Souls along Bloodborne?
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Y'all falling for a Chinner post?
Dougieflesh
Member
Destroying is such a reach. Also UK is not ALL of Europe
John Bender
Banned
Why not? They're great games and SONY IP's
geordiemp
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Pankratous
Member
That sounds like exactly the sort of smart feature you just said they should cut.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I thought they'd been planning to get rid of their TV business for bloody years? It's been a millstone around their next since forever, hasn't it?
I hope they keep making their top-end Xperia phones. I just got an Xperia Z3 Compact last month and it's superb. Were it me I'd release one high-end and one mid-range line of phones per year.
I hope they keep making their top-end Xperia phones. I just got an Xperia Z3 Compact last month and it's superb. Were it me I'd release one high-end and one mid-range line of phones per year.
XxRampage07xX
Member
What about Sony Pictures and Sony Financial? Are they doing good?
It would be nice if their phones were available on all the providers. I wanted to get the Xperia but Sprint doesn't support it. Ofcourse they just recently announced that z3 will be coming to sprint.
Just bought a sony tv recently mainly because of the input lag. Picture quality is very nice too.
I was a very very anti-sony person. Every sony product I ever bought (ps1, camcorder, tv, stereo) died within the first 9 months so it left a very bad impression in my mouth. This is the first year I've bought a sony product in over 14 years. Also I didn't technically buy it, I used Bestbuy points to get it. Either way if this shit breaks I'm never buying sony again. I am envious of the xperia phones though. They look friggin sweet.
Just bought a sony tv recently mainly because of the input lag. Picture quality is very nice too.
I was a very very anti-sony person. Every sony product I ever bought (ps1, camcorder, tv, stereo) died within the first 9 months so it left a very bad impression in my mouth. This is the first year I've bought a sony product in over 14 years. Also I didn't technically buy it, I used Bestbuy points to get it. Either way if this shit breaks I'm never buying sony again. I am envious of the xperia phones though. They look friggin sweet.
John Bender
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Of course! Get one!
I love them. Great gaming TV's.
Puppeteer and Demons Souls were IGC games at one point and would Bloodborne be the beta?
Broadbandito
Member
maybe they should've provided their phones across more providers? I would've bought an xperia z3 if it was on AT&T
Nightengale
Member
Instant Game Collection titles.
Bloodborne image is an example of priority beta/alpha, etc.
QuantumZebra
Member
Yea I'm pretty damn excited honestly... especially since I dont and never will ever pay for cable TV
It's pretty ludicrous that nobody in the entire TV industry has actually catered to the console gaming market yet. Buying a large TV with minimal input lag in 2014 is still tricky business, and it's going to get even worse when Sony pulls out of that market since they were arguably the best so far.
Actually its $800. But still, it has my eye.
Thing that's holding me back is that I have a perfectly fine 42 inch Visio that I have no issues with. But those extra inches, man.
Stereogatari
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They better keep making TVs, their TVs are still the best for me.
Their current TVs are great for gaming.
Simply Sami
Member
Don't understand the first few posts. Sony TVs are the best of you looking for quality panels.
It is not a shame at all, the cost is just not worth it, simple.
If PS Now is any indication...
In all seriousness, I've got my fingers crossed on that. As a cord-cutter, I want an option like this.
Interesting direction they are taking.
Seems like they are making good progress with their market transition in germany.
Stereogatari
Banned
It seems price > quality.
Sony have different price range tiers for their TVs though, and the mid range tier has a competitive price against the Samsung equivalent.
BruiserBear
Banned
I really hope Sony goes for the true high end tv customer. They make some quality tvs now, but I'd really like to see them produce even higher quality tvs at a higher price. I'm willing to pay for a truly high end LCD with low input lag.
wapplew
Member
No point for mid range phone, that market belongs to China OEM. Just focus on high end, Z series 4.3, 5, 8 and 10 inch.
Yeah. this news also mean the death of the only good gaming hdtvs in the market right now.
Super_Cobra
Member
Sony, how about make some affordable tvs? I mean yeah make top of the line tvs but also make some cheaper models to compete with vizio and Samsung.
John Bender
Banned
Seriously, if you have the cash, get one.
Having a 60" TV .... you will never go back to 40 or 50
(The reason why my new TV is 80" ;P)
maquiladora
Member
Well focusing on the PS division is good news for us anyway.
Thanks Kaz.
Thanks Kaz.
wapplew
Member
Cheaper model profit too low now? Everyone race to the bottom, time to abandon ship.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Yeah there is no way they can compete with Huawei and all those other Chinese companies. low end phones is now a race to the bottom.
Stereogatari
Banned
I bought that TV last month, after having a 32inch Bravia for 8 years. It's so fucking good, but my one regret is that I notice that I could've just about fit a 55inch in my room. Ah well, the money saved is probably worth it.
They sure are, I was just curious why they'd put those three games together.Why not? They're great games and SONY IP's
Aah okay, thanks for clarifying that. I had no idea what IGC meant in this occasion.
drotahorror
Member
Sony TV's are some of the best. Especially for gaming. Worth the price.
With what we know, Sony is actually geared to do a lot better in the 2015-2016 calendar than they have in the recent past.
* They finally got rid of the useless and loss leading PC division.
* They spun off the TV division which now has to float on its own or sink. Trimming the fat in the TV sets is a much better idea than trying to be everything and everywhere at any cost.
If like Panasonic they can aim mostly for the higher margin (but lesser volume) high end, they should be able to do fine. Having high volumes of unsold low cost TVs in inventory was definitely not fine (can't really sell your $350 32" Sony TV to Joe Blow when he can't see the difference with the Emerson TV of the same size but at $225. And more often than not, for the average user, there were little to no difference with a Sammy set of the same size at $299).
* Where the normally profitable Tablet/ Cell phone busines really hurt them in 2013-2014 is because they did not have big carriers selling them in NA (not sure about Europe). Lack of advertising also hurt them, but for the longest time it was simply not an option to find the most recent Xperia products at a reasonable cost in the US. Now? The Z3 is present with most large carriers (I know it's at least with T-Mobile and Verizon) at the same cost as any other flagship phone. Heck, back in August when comapring all my options (coming from a Motorola Razzr Max) I wanted a Z3 but couldn't get it with Verizon, so I fell back on a Note 3. I now wish I had waited.
* PS4 is selling great worldwide, and carriying along (most importantly) services. Bringing Remoteplay and PS Now to other devices was very much needed, good for them that they finally went there.
Now if they could make Music and Video Unlimited truly appealing, they'd have something really special (not holding my breath though).
* The imaging division will do fine as long as people buy video cameras and phones with cameras.
* The Finances division will probably continue to do fine, and at least maybe won't have to carry the whole comapny from now on, baring a financial collapse which I think is unlikely in the near future.
Imo, it's probably time to buy (if you're into stock options). Probably won't get any lower than it has been in the recent past, and will actually probably go up from now on.
Disclaimer: I'm no professional Analyst. Just a guy who has Bloomberg TV in his office all day long
* They finally got rid of the useless and loss leading PC division.
* They spun off the TV division which now has to float on its own or sink. Trimming the fat in the TV sets is a much better idea than trying to be everything and everywhere at any cost.
If like Panasonic they can aim mostly for the higher margin (but lesser volume) high end, they should be able to do fine. Having high volumes of unsold low cost TVs in inventory was definitely not fine (can't really sell your $350 32" Sony TV to Joe Blow when he can't see the difference with the Emerson TV of the same size but at $225. And more often than not, for the average user, there were little to no difference with a Sammy set of the same size at $299).
* Where the normally profitable Tablet/ Cell phone busines really hurt them in 2013-2014 is because they did not have big carriers selling them in NA (not sure about Europe). Lack of advertising also hurt them, but for the longest time it was simply not an option to find the most recent Xperia products at a reasonable cost in the US. Now? The Z3 is present with most large carriers (I know it's at least with T-Mobile and Verizon) at the same cost as any other flagship phone. Heck, back in August when comapring all my options (coming from a Motorola Razzr Max) I wanted a Z3 but couldn't get it with Verizon, so I fell back on a Note 3. I now wish I had waited.
* PS4 is selling great worldwide, and carriying along (most importantly) services. Bringing Remoteplay and PS Now to other devices was very much needed, good for them that they finally went there.
Now if they could make Music and Video Unlimited truly appealing, they'd have something really special (not holding my breath though).
* The imaging division will do fine as long as people buy video cameras and phones with cameras.
* The Finances division will probably continue to do fine, and at least maybe won't have to carry the whole comapny from now on, baring a financial collapse which I think is unlikely in the near future.
Imo, it's probably time to buy (if you're into stock options). Probably won't get any lower than it has been in the recent past, and will actually probably go up from now on.
Disclaimer: I'm no professional Analyst. Just a guy who has Bloomberg TV in his office all day long