Nah. DOA5 doesn't have timed DLC.
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Street Fighter V October Halloween Update
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Nah. DOA5 doesn't have timed DLC.
I don't know about expensive games of all time. Assuming it gets support for a decent amount of years then yes, it'll get very expensive. I am sure the justification is going to be that you can get all the characters for free if you want.
Son Of Sparda
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That's why the game has 37 playable characters.
I bought the game when it was on sale last time on PSN and it's amazing. Actually, tried Burning Blood's demo a little while ago but didn't like it all.
Anyway, the point was that if a
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Blazblue release date announcement...like 4 pages deep.
KoF14 OT couldn't find it.
GGXrdR OT couldn't find it.
Ya'll should spend more time bringing visibility to those games you think have better business practices over hating on one continuously for six months with the same tired ass arguments.
KoF14 OT couldn't find it.
GGXrdR OT couldn't find it.
Ya'll should spend more time bringing visibility to those games you think have better business practices over hating on one continuously for six months with the same tired ass arguments.
Rhazer Fusion
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Heh, I think SF5 will reach it quick a this rate, especially if they support it for years. $25 Evo pack, $10 stage, $4-$6 costumes. $6 characters. Grind for months for that fight money for that one costume or character or pay up.
The Lone Dragon
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The Lone Dragon
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Got my fight money ready and waiting...
I wonder if there will be stage transitions. Nah, better to assume not,and be pleasantly surprised.
It's true that DoA 5 LR does. However, each costume is $2 each or available in a discounted bundle and vanilla DoA5 had a bunch of costumes included. Ultimate and Last Round have also included a selection of DLC costumes as well as version-exclusive costumes with each game.
They do release an insane amount of skins, though. They've been pretty lazy about just giving the same costume to multiple characters. I remember thinking they were way too expensive at $2 each. Lol.
At the same time, they have released all extra stages for free and each game is packed with modes and feature-complete on release. The $6 DLC characters come with a few costumes, too. No pass required. Mai is the only exception and she also costs $8. No clue why.
I have only bought a few of the skins for DOA5 over the years. I think I'd buy a decent amount of the SFV skins if they were $2 or less because I enjoy the franchise more. But I've bought none at $4 each.
DoAs were double what other fighting games were asking at the time, so they were expensive.
Remember when SFxTs costumes were available at $1 individually or in discounted bundles? Good times.
The Lone Dragon
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This is not true. There have been multiple versions DOA5 that needed to be purchased to get the "current" version of the game. My DOA5 vanilla disc is now useless if I want to play Last Round...which makes that vanilla disc "incomplete" by such standards.
This is an issue that will never happen with SF5.
When people like to talk about "completeness" of games like GG Revelator or DOA5:LR, don't forget those full priced or $40 mandatory updates that you will never see in SF5. Tell the whole story.
Rhazer Fusion
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I cannot speak for KOF14 yet, but I doubt any fighting game will be safe from expensive DLC this generation. If I remember correctly, weren't the characters in GG like $8 a piece or something and they were/are charging for colors?
The GG DLC characters have all been free for the first week and anyone can claim them even if they don't own the game. The base game comes with alt colors for characters. The color packs are $1 for 5 colors, character specific.
KOF14 has no announced DLC at this time. 4 colors for each of the 50 characters unlocked from the start. Incredibly refreshing. Game is straight fire.
They got the idea from Namco (Tekken 7 vanilla, and probably FR and console version) and Blizzard (Overwatch Olympics dlc).
More like straight into the fire. I jest. Apart from it looking like a rejected dream cast game I do like what they have done with some of thier online components and gallery mode is cool too.
Rhazer Fusion
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Tekken 7 did this?
In terms of visuals, the texture quality seemed better in KOF despite lacking in other graphical areas, although I've only played the demo. I'll take KoF's background's over SFV's, though with its choppy animation and awful filter effect muddying all the textures. I dunno, at this point I'd probably settle for SFV looking like a rejected Dreamcast game if it still played well, but it felt like they respected their audience.
The current SNK had never done a 3D fighting game, nor had they worked with the new consoles. They started from scratch and created 50 characters and a nice selection of stages. The online is excellent, as is gameplay.
If graphics tech had to be sacrificed so we could have a huge, varied roster with solid gameplay and online then that's a-okay with me.
I think the graphics would actually look great if they had a more advanced lighting engine.
They also developed the entire game with no DLC plans. They created and sold a complete game without trying to sell you on future content before the base game even released.
katsubento
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Stage for sure...costumes maybe.
I'll give you that some of the backgrounds may look better in KOF but the models and animations in SFV are some of the best in this generation. Anyway, if we want KOF to get attention let's make a new thread and praise it in there not "try" to boost it up in an SFV thread which always happens to be the case.
Eolz
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Man, those prices are way too expensive. Ridiculous to make them timed too.
They did have one last gen actually, but it was also free.
They did have one last gen actually, but it was also free.
This is probably the first instance I've taken with SFV's pricing. $4 a costume is fine by me as I'd be very surprised if bundles or sales for existing costumes doesn't happen somewhere down the line. However, if the Halloween costumes are truly limited then people have no choice paying full price if they want that content. I suspect these costumes will come back for Halloween 2017 but who knows.
Regardless, it's an easy purchase to avoid. The only character with a Halloween costume I play is Alex and I'm not a fan of his get up here.
Regardless, it's an easy purchase to avoid. The only character with a Halloween costume I play is Alex and I'm not a fan of his get up here.
IbukiLordSA
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Nice costumes but the price tags are really dumb, coupled with the fact that we can't use fight money for costumes. Don't even know when that happened, was always under the impression that all DLC could be bought with fight money or purchased as normal so a bit of a shame there. Those 4 costumes should be $3.99 for the bundle not separately.
Since DOA5/DOA5 Last Round was mentioned. The costumes are a lot cheaper there and you even got the Halloween themed stage for free with the very first Halloween DLC. They are also not timed DLC. You can get them later and cheaper.
Also, DOA5 already comes with so many costumes for each character. There is a difference to Street Fighter V that has hardly any alternate costumes and charges you an arm and a leg for just a little more variety. They even sell you recolors...
Also, DOA5 already comes with so many costumes for each character. There is a difference to Street Fighter V that has hardly any alternate costumes and charges you an arm and a leg for just a little more variety. They even sell you recolors...
Yes, Idolmaster costumes and various premium costumes.
If you didn't get them when they were out, you can't get them again in FR unless Namco brings them out again.
Also Namco's DLC practices for paid DLC are done via randomized Lotto tickets akin to Overwatch's loot boxes.
They still kept the random Lotto tickets in FR, but due to complaints they made it that you can get premium items via premium tickets you can grind for completing various missions.
But yeah Tekken's paid DLC for customs are all randomized.
This is a news thread about SFV's new content and comparison of pricing and content to other games in the genre is fair game. I'm sorry if KOF being praised in terms of its content and pricing despite looking like a "rejected dream cast game" ruffles your feathers.
I have no issues with how they handled the stages so far. This is a decent variation for the price.
That isn't true at all. The Guile and Balrog stages can be purchased with FM. I know because that's what I did.
Oh yeah I forgot about those. I guess it's just the CPT one you can't buy with FM then?
Correct
The only real money stuff in SFV is the CPT content and the non-story costumes. Everything else can be purchased with either FM or real money, most content being able to be purchased with both.
Stage variants cost FM but are cheaper than brand new stages like the casino and airbase.
The Lone Dragon
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This is not true. Leo was never free in GGXrd Sign. He was 8 dollars.
I feel bad for the folks who paid for him...only to have GGXrd Revelator, a brand new disc, announced a few months later.
KOF14 actually had a couple pre-order incentive DLC costumes.
Reizo Ryuu
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I think people who complain about the pricing, or make inane comparisons to other games fail to realise that premium content is the only source of guaranteed income for capcom. For the simple fact that FM exists, means that the overwhelming majority of content in the game can be earned.
With so much being earnable, the premium content has to be priced higher than "normal" in order to justify the labour that goes into everything that can be earned.
If you don't want to buy it that's fine, but with this model some stuff has to be exclusive to real money, and everyone who purchases them are the ones that pay for everyone else's earned content.
With so much being earnable, the premium content has to be priced higher than "normal" in order to justify the labour that goes into everything that can be earned.
If you don't want to buy it that's fine, but with this model some stuff has to be exclusive to real money, and everyone who purchases them are the ones that pay for everyone else's earned content.
People who don't like the pricing are still aware of this. The price hike is extreme, and we do not have their financials to know that they couldn't do just as well with less expensive DLC that people buy more of.
and that is the problem with the model.
Reizo Ryuu
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The "only OCD people who got to have everything" argument that comes to dismiss pricing concerns is ridiculous.
Even if you only buy a few or a moderate amount you're paying at least four times as much as what you used to.
I mean yeah, you'll love the model if you don't care about cosmetics because they're charging exorbitant prices for them, and others are footing the bill for your free characters, but it's pretty one-sided.
Hey bro we DO play those games ok , its just that we think shit posting SFV is much more fun that those games.
The costumes may be $4 but the hundreds of hours of Street Fighter V shitposting you get is free.
Reizo Ryuu
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It's not though, there's no reason to complain about 28 bucks of halloween costumes unless you feel like you need every single one of those costumes. It's even more ridiculous to complain about the price of the full selection of costumes, because you aren't maining 22 characters, that's OCD nonsense.
Buy for your main and the few exceptions you really like visually and it suddenly becomes a whole lot more managable, personally, I can't even fathom that you can't afford 4 bucks every few months for something you really enjoy.
You're paying more because it's the only source of guaranteed income, there's nothing else to it.
The Lone Dragon
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Pretty much this.
Getting costumes for seven character or even 4 or 5 of those is not some sort of compulsive OCD thing, so stop with that nonsense. Not everyone plays the game like you. Some people like to play a wide variety of characters. If something you purchase regularly suddenly now costs 400% more than it used to, and you are getting much less for the same amount regardless of the absolute price, it's going to make you stop and think about whether it's something you want to continue to support.
I got 44 Halloween costumes for $20 last year for SF4, and that same $20 gets you 5 for SFV this year. That is a massive value difference, whether you personally care about them or not.
No one's arguing they didn't raise the price due to the model, but it is certainly reasonable to stop and consider if the model is worth that kind of value proposition change if the end result is paying more for less. I get you don't care, but there's no reason to try to belittle others that think differently with the, "stop being OCD, it's the price of a coffee, lol" sort of comments.
I think the premium costumes are overpriced but I wouldn't compare them to the SF4 packs that mandated you buy 4-5 costumes at a time in set packs. Now, SFxT is a better comparison as the costumes were sold individually for a dollar a piece. So if I were to account for the increased workload for higher res assets and the freemium model the game's content updates is using I'd put costumes around $2.
At $4 they really should be able to be purchased with FM as well. I don't know exactly what it would come to but 60-80k FM isn't a paltry amount so I don't believe this would break their model. Maybe if your main was in the initial 16 and you only wanted to spend money to play dress up with them, sure.
At $4 they really should be able to be purchased with FM as well. I don't know exactly what it would come to but 60-80k FM isn't a paltry amount so I don't believe this would break their model. Maybe if your main was in the initial 16 and you only wanted to spend money to play dress up with them, sure.
That would have been a much easier price point to swallow, and I'd be much more inclined to pick up the ones I like for various characters, as opposed to them jacking them up so much, that it puts me off from buying any.
Reizo Ryuu
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And not everyone plays the game like you, this model doesn't support the people who feel they need everything.
That's completely disingenous, SF4 is 7 years old and the DLC for it became progressively cheaper as time went on, that Halloween pack was pretty much a last hurrah before everyone would switch to SF5 anyway.
It's also a complete false equivalence because the costumes in SF4 weren't the only source of guaranteed income.
There's no belittling, dunno why you are feeling offended. I also said nothing about coffee.