It was basically confirmed that it was a mistranslation gone crazy. The fact that we've gotten two characters that work in tandem with multiple models should confirm that he was just talking about extra work involved.
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Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 3: Ridley's Believe It or Not!
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It was basically confirmed that it was a mistranslation gone crazy. The fact that we've gotten two characters that work in tandem with multiple models should confirm that he was just talking about extra work involved.
ShockingAlberto
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Why is she outside the arena
Why is she outside the arena
The boxing ring stage has a floor beneath the arena, we've seen characters standing on it before.
HD kirby is still the best part of the trailer.
Yess....yesss. This is perfect. Your avatar has sent a message. There's no turning back now.
Mis-translation blown out of proportion, if you ask me.
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Why is she outside the arena
She is the Luma's Doc Louis.
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Why is she outside the arena
In the first trailer we even saw Bowser and Mario jumping from outside the arena. So yeah, nothing new.
Wait a second here. That background. I can't think of any space stages announced for 3DS yet. Am I forgetting something, or is that a new one?
doesn't rosalina & luma confirm the ice climbers were never a limitation on the 3ds to begin with?
I doubt that. I would imagine that Diddy+Dixie would've worked similar to Ice Climbers.
Battlefield in the night-time.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
That's battlefield at night
Why were you looking in the first place Boss Doggie-san huh ~~~
Battlefield at night where they show off a character then abandon them forever.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
clone clone clone clone clone clone clone death to clones
LOLThey need to change the title to Super Mario Smash and Friends honestly. Instead of celebrating Nintendo's history we are celebrating marketing. I guess that's what is making me nervous about this version. But they reeled me in with Villager and Mega Man
BassForever
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Red Arremer
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How so? The characters are hardly alike, especially when it comes to their "signature" moves".
You should probably stop taking the internet's indifference toward the 3DS version so personally.
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Why is she outside the arena
Hi there PSone crowd models.
You're like... 6 months late to the party.
Shadow Hog
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PSone crowd models would be billboards
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Why is she outside the arena
No she is running down to the ring to help luma in the ladder match
It's true though. They reveal a character in a single pose then forget their existance. (See Olimar)
doesn't rosalina & luma confirm the ice climbers were never a limitation on the 3ds to begin with?
Most people interpreted Sakurai's statement about having trouble programming "two simultaneous characters" applied to the Ice Climbers, but I always figured he meant transformation characters like Sheik and Zero Suit Samus. Remember how in Brawl there'd be a short loading time whenever a character transformed? Imagine trying to deal with implementing that using the 3DS' (slower?) processor.
They don't forget them, they show up all the time on the more marketable version.
Neoriceisgood
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Rosalina ... nice.
Anyway anyone got a .gif of Rosalina and Luma spinning near the end of the video? I want it.
Anyway anyone got a .gif of Rosalina and Luma spinning near the end of the video? I want it.
I understand why they're doing that, but for others, I'm sure you can realise that we feel "left out" of sorts.
doesn't rosalina & luma confirm the ice climbers were never a limitation on the 3ds to begin with?
Or possibly, they discovered a workaround for the problem, and then proceeded to make this character based on that, and maybe that also means a Fire Emblem Awakening character combo is now possible.
It does appear that Olimar carries around fewer Pikmin than he did in Brawl, though.
SkullHydra
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Better than Forza 5's. Zing!
No, I can't. The characters work the same in both versions. Anything they show off from one applies to the other, so they pick the version with higher graphical fidelity.
The unique stuff, like the 3DS version's stages, get enough attention to show off their uniqueness.
You can presumably hop over the ropes and fight on the floor, most likely.Wait
Why is she outside the arena
For a moment there I hoped you had found Little Mac, lol.
Gameplay would be nice y'know, considering a large majority own 3DS'. I know they're marketing the better looking game, but 3DS coverage is weak.
We haven't even seen a single item for it yet.
Yes, I am constantly complaining, I am aware, but for a game which I'm supposed to drop cash on for, I should be expecting a little more.
That's an interesting theory.
ITS A GODAMN SLOBBERKNOCKER
Boswer and DeDeDe Just set up mario For a Tag Team Title shot.
My need for bowser to have more wresling moves has increased several fold
fredrancour
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EDIT GOES AT TOP OF POST BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT:
NOW THAT IT WAS SUGGESTED I WILL BE BROKEN-HEARTED IF ONE CHARACTER ISN'T A FIRE EMBLEM TAG-TEAM REP.
So yeah it's gonna be "issac is an assist trophy and not playable" all over again.
What on earth is so different from other smash bros games? Out of the 4 newcomers, one is from a mario game. Galaxy = one of the most critically acclaimed games ever and the bestselling 3d mario= not a meaningful part of nintendo's history? It's not like the newcomers were GIANT MARIO, FIRE FLOWER MARIO, PAPER MARIO, CAT SUIT PEACH, AND VACUUM LUIGI or something absurd like that.
I mean you could argue that smash has always been pure marketing but that doesn't seem like what you're saying.
NOW THAT IT WAS SUGGESTED I WILL BE BROKEN-HEARTED IF ONE CHARACTER ISN'T A FIRE EMBLEM TAG-TEAM REP.
So yeah it's gonna be "issac is an assist trophy and not playable" all over again.
They need to change the title to Super Mario Smash and Friends honestly. Instead of celebrating Nintendo's history we are celebrating marketing. I guess that's what is making me nervous about this version. But they reeled me in with Villager and Mega Man
What on earth is so different from other smash bros games? Out of the 4 newcomers, one is from a mario game. Galaxy = one of the most critically acclaimed games ever and the bestselling 3d mario= not a meaningful part of nintendo's history? It's not like the newcomers were GIANT MARIO, FIRE FLOWER MARIO, PAPER MARIO, CAT SUIT PEACH, AND VACUUM LUIGI or something absurd like that.
I mean you could argue that smash has always been pure marketing but that doesn't seem like what you're saying.
All those things will be identical in function to what's shown on the Wii U.
I doubt it. I'd like information on frame rate for example, control options (CPP?), 3D? etc.
I imagine they won't share many items, otherwise we'd of seen at least one in the Pic of the Day by now.
This is why I'm suspecting that the first game to be released will probably be the Wii U version, then a few months later the 3DS version will come out and give a second wind to the Wii U sales.
We're still missing a lot of that information for Wii U. The game isn't even close to out, being concerned about specs this early doesn't mean much since they're all liable to change from build to build.
Because he was watching the trailer.
You really think Boss Doggie would be interested in a mere human like that?
What is this?! Master Hand has stripped Donkey Kong of the title! The fans are making their opinion on this matter heard!
Yea, but I would think they would let you switch between them for which one you control.
They would follow each other around and support each other like Ice Climbers.
That was due to RAM limitations and Brawl requiring things to be streamed from the disc, that's why the transformation time was variable. Even if the same limitations are in place, carts>>>>>>>>>dual-layer disc on the Wii in terms of read speed.
I don't think any of that info along with resolution is confirmed for the Wii U version either. They've only been showing the gameplay side of things.
Just a guess but wouldn't that have something to do with the load times? Grabbing the information from the disc and then swapping the characters in the RAM? I'm guessing the problem wouldn't be so bad with the Wii U having much more RAM, being able to store and swap the characters in the same space. The GC had really fast load times, but the Wii didn't with the double layered disc, hence my guess at how it works. The 3DS also has (slightly) more RAM than the Wii, and the cartridges should be (but not necessarily) faster.
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Why is she outside the arena
We all though this would have been the Little Mac stage but this new look...crowd is """realistic""" (in the sense: not stylized as in Punch Out on Wii, but real people), and, overall, it reminds me more of Tekken. Am I the only one?
Olimar is probably the only one who will get nerfed.
If he does indeed only have 3 Pikmin follow him, I think it'll have more to do with the fact that he was incredibly good in Brawl outside of having a shit recovery. Not much of a hardware thing, I could be wrong since Sakurai vaguely commented on the subject like he ALWAYS does.
I'm looking forward to seeing what Rosa's Final Smash will be, there's loads of possibilities.
Maybe the Luma will turn into a massive Sling Star and launch Rosalina across the screen, knocking into people ala the Dragoon? It was sorta hinted at in the trailer.
Alternatively she could use the Observatory to wreck some shit, like in Mario Galaxy.
Or she could summon all the Lumas to dogpile the opponents.
Exciting times!
Maybe the Luma will turn into a massive Sling Star and launch Rosalina across the screen, knocking into people ala the Dragoon? It was sorta hinted at in the trailer.
Alternatively she could use the Observatory to wreck some shit, like in Mario Galaxy.
Or she could summon all the Lumas to dogpile the opponents.
Exciting times!
It's honestly hard to tell because they are as low-poly as possible. To me they would still fit fine with PO's design though.
Sorry for all of the incoming GIFs!
A Luma is Born!
I think that is Rosalina'sDown-SpecialNeutral-Special (if it is Neutral-B, that would mean Kirby can use it, which is highly unlikely, so it is either Side-B or Neutral-B). My guess is that Rosalina's base attacks don't have a lot of range, and Luma will remedy that giving Rosalina a lot of range and versatility. And maybe using Neutral-B again will make the Luma go further away or come closer.
Launch Star!
That is most definitely Rosalina's Up-Special (recovery). I think that it may be possible to use Luma to attack even though Rosalina can't do anything, but because she can't do anything and it seems Luma copies what Rosalina does, that theory is probably a bust.
Holy crap!
I think that is Rosalina'sNeutral-SpecialDown-Special. Seems pretty crazy. Also has that Wiimote pointer like effect in the Galaxy games, which is cool.
Why it is a Down-Special:
Meteor Smash!
Dat ring. Rosalina doesn't have to make direct contact to hit someone with it.
Luma Helps Rosalina With Attacks!
I think this was fairy obvious, but still pointing it out. Luma makes Rosalina's attacks stronger. The ring attack looks like anUp-TiltUp-Air, while the other is a Down-Smash.
The second GIF shows her Grab and Throw, Up-Smash, and what seems to be her Forward-Air.
And as everyone noticed, Rosalina has mini Galaxy-like things appear.
Also, one woman/star WOMBO COMBO!
Luma Helps Rosalina Out Of Sticky Situations!
Seems like Luma is the real hero here. Taking dat charge shot to the face!
Goodbye Luma, you're a true hero keeping the Galaxy princess safe. ;(
Luma Attacks!
Rosalina sends Luma spiraling to the left, and then Luma finishes offVillager using star bits to pop his balloons. And then goes back to Rosalina.the evil
Luma Takes Down Evil Tree!
Luma takes down the evil Villager's evil tree! There is nothing more to this and is just here as a joke lol.
If you look at the mirror, you can see Wii Fit Trainer warming up to kick some ass.
Gallery Link: http://minus.com/mLZrPZXlbFNSR
Thanks to ffdgh for correcting the Gravity Field move.
Thanks to C.Olimar788 for correcting the Up-Air part.
Looks like she has a really unique moveset. Combo potential looks crazy, assuming the hitstun is there.
Also, DAT DAIR mmmmmmmmmm