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SuperData:PlaystationVR will be $400-600, estimates 38million VR devices sold in 2016
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Sounds like the lenses and screen/s are the most expensive parts. Palmer saying that the lenses are quite significantly more advanced than the shitty cheap plastic lenses in early DKs - presumably to help with sharpness across the view etc. Plus the OR/Vive have more complicated mechanicals to adjust each screen position for IPD, whereas PSVR will be simpler with only one screen.
The gyros aren't 'just like in a smartphone'. If so, then gear VR would just use the phone gyros, but instead they have additional gyros in the gear VR for better tracking.
Let's take oculus at their word and say they really are selling at cost. That should recalibrate peoples' expectations for pricing on the other two headsets. Some wiggle room for oculus' lack of experience with hardware production etc.
SensibleSucker
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There's such a wildly varying range this could cost, based on the statement that it'd be priced similar to a console.
I bought my Xbone for £430.00 with zero games and at the time felt it was worth the cost. I got my ps4, new, with 3 games, for £225.
It really depends how much people got their consoles for as that will be many people's benchmark.
Anything under £350 is an instant purchase, for me.
I bought my Xbone for £430.00 with zero games and at the time felt it was worth the cost. I got my ps4, new, with 3 games, for £225.
It really depends how much people got their consoles for as that will be many people's benchmark.
Anything under £350 is an instant purchase, for me.
Freeman
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299$ just for the headset and Bundles including move controllers and games for 399$.
This is the perfect place for a loss leader strategy. Sony is at a very good position to dominate if they are aggressive.
Ultimate 599$ Bundle including a PS4, just to stick it to OR.
Sony controlling the only storefront for their device give them a great advantage compared to HTC and OR. They can pull the rug under the competition just like they did with the Xbox 1 if they play their cards right.
This is the perfect place for a loss leader strategy. Sony is at a very good position to dominate if they are aggressive.
Ultimate 599$ Bundle including a PS4, just to stick it to OR.
Sony controlling the only storefront for their device give them a great advantage compared to HTC and OR. They can pull the rug under the competition just like they did with the Xbox 1 if they play their cards right.
Neverwinter27
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If PSVR announces the price at 199.00 I'm putting money down on it, pre order paid in full, I don't care if it's a trap
The cost for PSVR will be closer to $400, and my best guess is $349.
Oculus Rift have to pay for extra stuff, make some reasonable guestimates then add all that up (e.g. controller $35, Eve Valkyrie $20), and subtract from $600, then add in the PSVR extras (processing box, and I'm assuming camera--its too cheap not to), and that gives you a rough price. I make it $405. Try having a play around with the numbers.
Then adjust for increased volumes, not quite so high end and that Sony will regard hitting certain price points as more important than making a small loss, and you get closer to $350.
All back of a fag packet stuff, but certainly reasonable. I see no reason why PSVR, including the camera, but not the move controllers, will not retail for $350 or less.
I also expect a pack with move controllers for less than $400.
Oculus Rift have to pay for extra stuff, make some reasonable guestimates then add all that up (e.g. controller $35, Eve Valkyrie $20), and subtract from $600, then add in the PSVR extras (processing box, and I'm assuming camera--its too cheap not to), and that gives you a rough price. I make it $405. Try having a play around with the numbers.
Then adjust for increased volumes, not quite so high end and that Sony will regard hitting certain price points as more important than making a small loss, and you get closer to $350.
All back of a fag packet stuff, but certainly reasonable. I see no reason why PSVR, including the camera, but not the move controllers, will not retail for $350 or less.
I also expect a pack with move controllers for less than $400.
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Sony is smarter than you think, Games that are made for PSVR will take advantage of the fact that it's less pixels in the outer view of the screen so VR games will be optimized for the VR headset.
In VR frame rate is more important so that's where the devs will put more focus on.
Looking at previews of DriveCLub VR, it is clear that graphical quality is second to framerate, for VR, which is good but quite new in recent console gaming (it was in the past).
I thought that statement was about the hardware not being sold to make money but to sell software?
slavesnyder
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I don't know whether this has been addressed, but, as we're getting closer to launch(es), I find myself surprised by the number of options that'll hit the market in the next 12 months. Even though I agree that VR is a way to go in the long term, I can't see there being a big enough market for half a dozen platforms at this point, and I would have expected more companies to perhaps sit back and see whether the time is here, yet. Surely, some of these companies have large enough existing user bases to wait and introduce their first VR solution within the second or third generation, so that they can learn from the successes and mistakes of the competition now. In many ways, current efforts feel a lot more like an exercise, acquiring familiarity with hardware / software development and device marketing / pricing / demoing, but I wonder whether that is worth the risk for everyone involved.
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This guy doesn't get it.
Neuromancer
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Steve McQueen
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My guess was that most people expected it to be around the price of a new console. 200 is wishful thinking imo.
Oh....oh my god that's $200 more than the oculus in CAD. That can't be right. That's like $799 USD
Alcoholikaust
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Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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It's placeholder and you know it. Unless it includes a PS4, that's a placeholder price.
Neuromancer
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Omnistalgic
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Primethius
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38 million VR devices?
Uh...
Uh...
And date, hahah. (That price translates to 800 USD / 700 EUR)
Unfortunately it's not up for preorder on any other Amazon site. If I was Canadian, I'd probably preorder it now
suddenlyissoon
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That cannot be the real price.
That cannot be the real price.
It's not. Just like the release date isn't December 31st.
Get_craycray
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gamechanger87
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All Amazon PSVR pages look like they were tweaked this AM. Only this one has a number on it and likely by error. I think this is a PSVR + PS4 combo price.
I find it funny the disparity between US and British price thresholds for people. See a lot of talk that maybe £300 to £350 is the upper limit for Brits, and I'm one of those people too. That equates to about $450 - $520 after tax. Most Americans seem to want $400 or less.
At least if it is a bit more expensive than we're all hoping us Brits are prepared
Edit: I'd love £250 for a base headset without the needed extras, which I already have. do this and it's Day 0. £300 or more and it's Day "Once I save money and go on a cheap noodles diet for a couple of months".
At least if it is a bit more expensive than we're all hoping us Brits are prepared
Edit: I'd love £250 for a base headset without the needed extras, which I already have. do this and it's Day 0. £300 or more and it's Day "Once I save money and go on a cheap noodles diet for a couple of months".
gamechanger87
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Amazon ninjas just took the price off of the page. Now it looks like the others. Do they usually do that with placeholder pricing? I thought if it was a true placeholder they would just leave it up forever.
UpDownLeftRight
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Going by the increasing release wait on Oculus and the rate it's increasing at I'd be surprised if they can produce enough to fill half of the target for PC. I don't think Vive are going to be at a price point to fill out the other half of that goal though either, though really we don't know how any of that will play out yet. Vive was always advertised as premium but we don't really know what they are considering premium until they announce a price.
Honestly I wish we had a middle ground device for PC so more people can at least get a taste of it, myself included. If I knew this was the outcome I'd have ordered the DK2 when I had the chance.
I can definitely see the cheaper devices selling closer to their targets as people are clearly eager to see what it has to offer.
Honestly I wish we had a middle ground device for PC so more people can at least get a taste of it, myself included. If I knew this was the outcome I'd have ordered the DK2 when I had the chance.
I can definitely see the cheaper devices selling closer to their targets as people are clearly eager to see what it has to offer.
XiaNaphryz
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From the Oculus thread:
Also
This is no cardboard VR.
599$ for best visual/optics in VR (you know... the most important aspect of immersion).
DK2 for comparison (350$)
I'm sorry, had to post that Gif :'). I feel that the price will be at most 399.99$ when it comes out and we will get a 599.99 bundle with a PS4, VR Kit and other stuff (PS Camera, Move Controllers, game or two, ect).
Neuromancer
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If they were getting a lot of requests for further information (emails/tweets etc) I can see why they would remove it.
hydragonwarrior
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How about 559.99?
Hell if I worked for Sony I would have had them on the phone immediately. That price is hilarious but ignorance would have spread it like wildfire.
The Elite
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Gotta be a placeholder but it's kind of uncanny that it's exchange into US basically hits the $799 mark.
Actually, if I had to guess, I would presume that the price is meant to reflect some sort of bundle.
$800 USD would be just about $399 USD for a PS4 and $399 USD for a PSVR, which I think is a likely price scenario.
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Actually, just based on this, I am confident in saying that PSVR will be $399 USD.
Edit: My post magically transported.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Lol at people falling for placeholders.
What we really got instead.
To be fair, at least that PSVR placeholder is somewhat reasonable, though on the high end.
PS4 bundles right now are listed at about $50 higher MSRP in CDN vs USD (449 vs 399). So there's around a difference of $776 Canadian if you subtract the PS4 bundle price (which right now converts to around $550 US). If that covers the headset, processing box, camera, and motion controllers, it's not completely out of line for that total $1225 CDN price to be possible for an uber high end PS4 + VR bundle. I think it's more likely to be at least $100-$150 USD lower than that though as the camera and motion controllers shouldn't add that much to the price. $550 USD after all is pretty much where the Oculus is sitting at.
Of course, if that listing is just for the VR stuff and not a console bundle, it's obviously completely wrong lol.
Just so Sony is nice enough to sell the thing without the camera and wands I think we can expect a good price. They've profitted from each ps4 for some time now likely, this is their next defining jump into dominating the market, I expect them to break even or take a small hit here.
Though the price may have gone up a little with Rift coming in at that absurd price, allowing a higher price to still look more attractive. They said console pricing, I assume that means $300-400, which im fine with if it's quality.
Though the price may have gone up a little with Rift coming in at that absurd price, allowing a higher price to still look more attractive. They said console pricing, I assume that means $300-400, which im fine with if it's quality.
slavesnyder
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Product specifications are not final and are subject to change.
Vita was pretty rad and well below estimates.
Vita seemed rad only because at the time the 3DS was priced at $250 as well. After what happened with the PSP I thought they would have learned not to aim so high. Not to mention that their business model seemed to revolve around selling a cheap handheld and then gouging the fuck out of you on memory card prices.
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