dave is ok
aztek is ok
I don't think advertisers really clamour for those 1 A.M. ad spots
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The Alt-Right Has Its Own Comedy TV Show On A Time Warner Network
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How the hell can AS look at this shit and think it's 'commentary on societal tropes'?
That's an insult to comedy with actual social commentary to compare it with this garbage.
Orbis Tabula
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I definitely don't think I'd consider South Park to be alt-right.
Yeah. I think this is the case. Actually, it might be same channel but two different networks on one channel. Cartoon Network and Adult Swim are legally separate.
I'm surprised the show has a viewership. Its on at a really strange time. Didn't know it even premiered. Just saw commercials for it and it looked like trash. Like taking cell phone videos of people doing stupid shit. A lot of the shows on Adult Swim seem like something even people who are high would not enjoy. The show looks dreadful and I have to change the channel even when the commercial for it airs.
NOLA_Gaffer
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Adult Swim is going further and further off the rails as the years march on.
No, cause comedy can be subjective.
But if they go around referencing pc principal unironically, they might have a problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUtyBC4Q_Js
They actually did a teacher bit. Comedy I guess? Maybe?
Seems like just shitting on people for a while tbh.
I agree with you. South Park has, like, nothing at all to do with the Alt-Right. They're libertarian-ish emo-moderates.
Veritigo_X
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Okay, they just supply them with jerk off material.
12:30's not weird for the network, though; if it's on before 1, it's usually something they're trying to push, and I think some of their stuff can't be aired before 10-ish, anyway.
Even some stuff they air at 4 can make it big.
Pai Pai Master
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Yeah didn't you know? Clinton is secretly dying and she wont tell the public.
According to Rudy Giuliani all you need to do is "go online and search 'hillary Clinton health' and the videos will tell you everything!!!
fuck I hate this election
They struck gold with Morel Orel, and did well for themselves with ATHF,Squidbillies, and China IL to an extent. The rest of their shows have been, from what I have seen, poor "Stoner" productions.
Eric Andre is ok in bursts. Metalopcolypse had a nice idea but was very poorly done. Boondocks was anti black garbage. Children Hospital was horrid. The clip posted in this thread I have seen of this Hyde show looks like shit too.
Really the only reason to watch is Squidbillies at this point, and even then the quality is sinking.
That concept was a response to a year in which numerous academic institutions instituted draconian speech codes and increasingly absurd policies, which was widely criticized from all sides of the political spectrum (including top liberal publications like New York Magazine and the Atlantic).
Satirizing the excesses of academic political correctness is in no way "alt-right."
My bad. I thought it was something like their "off the air" or show with fish that comes on at like 4AM. Didn't realize it was that "early" in the night at 12:30. I am surprised that anything around 4 would get big. Those time slots have never had anything interesting to me though so I guess I'm probably biased against them
BrutishMrFish
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Not alt-right, but #1 with the alt-right.
Downplaying harassment over the internet when GamerGate had recently happened is, though.
Yeah, I definitely get the libertarian vibe. Even then, the show seems to crap on everyone equally.
PC police and variations upon the concept are Alt Right bread and butter
They are not Alt Right, but they are playing with the Alt Right tool box
I don't think its fair to call it that just by association though, the alt-right also liked Bernie. Does that mean Bernie is also alt-right?
LouisaFerre
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Ah, I never really took Sam Hyde and MDE as being serious about any alt-right stuff. They're not really leftists, either, from what I can tell. I kind of got the impression that they just dislike people and the investment they have in most of these topics. Like they enjoy being offensive in general because they think it's dumb for people to have any personal interest in politics, rather than them actually having any passionate political associations of their own.
Teletraan1
Banned
It is the hot buzzword right now for thing that makes people uncomfortable. So much shit lumped in as alt-right that the phrase has lost meaning already. I would love to see one of those internet usage graphs on that phrase because people are parroting it here and calling people out as alt right based on nothing.
I guess we're also going to have to disown anime and memes, since they seem to enjoy those as well.
"Hit" =/= "Noticed" in the context I was using. If you don't see the difference, the creators are definitely going to see the difference soon enough if articles like this keep coming out/spreading.
we will have to agree to disagree
gutter_trash
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I know, it irks me when the Far-Lefty-Left label South Park like that.
South Park makes fun of everybody. Matt and Trey are Libertarians, not Alt-Right nationalists
jack_package_200
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That would probably be for the benefit of humanity.
World Peace is actually very tame when it comes to MRA/Alt-Right themes compared to what MillionDollarExtreme usually does (MDE is Sam Hyde's comedy group). His standup is usually the worst in that regard.
Everything they do is so thick with irony and lies that my head spins trying to decipher what Sam actually thinks. This alt-right kick of his is pretty recent so I'm skeptical (MDE has existed for several years but this red-pill bit is primarily over the last year). They flip their mockery on a dime and attack just about everything so if you're familiar with their material it's a little less blatant than "Adult Swim gave racist nationalists a show."
MDE surrealist sketches are great so I'm glad World Peace is focusing on those.
Everything they do is so thick with irony and lies that my head spins trying to decipher what Sam actually thinks. This alt-right kick of his is pretty recent so I'm skeptical (MDE has existed for several years but this red-pill bit is primarily over the last year). They flip their mockery on a dime and attack just about everything so if you're familiar with their material it's a little less blatant than "Adult Swim gave racist nationalists a show."
MDE surrealist sketches are great so I'm glad World Peace is focusing on those.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
'Bernie Bro' isn't needed anymore now that Hillary has the nomination so now anyone who isn't lockstep with her 100% is 'alt right'.
I've seen "alt right" used to cover the entire spectrum from Bernie supporters, Trump supporters, White nationalists to actual Nazis
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
I buy that reasoning insofar as how the show made it on Adult Swim. Someone at the network though this was extreme farce.
But then you look at this dude's twitter and, if this really is a joke, he would have to be doing Andy Kaufman on steroids-level character work.
Produced by Abso Lutely, actually.
The real counterpoints are Neon Joe and Black Jesus, which are great.
BrutishMrFish
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That's a poor comparison. The only thing the alt-right liked Bernie for is his notion of starting a revolution. He doesn't regularly make points that they agree with, South Park does.
It's not that I think the show is completely alt-right, but there's enough overlap between its ideas and the alt-right's ideas that I don't blame anyone for making that assumption.
This is the first time that I've seen this evaluation of Boondocks. lol. I have to agree for the most part on the quality of AS shows since it seems most of their original productions are awful to me. Only ones I can recall enjoying were China, IL and Delocated.
Intheflorsh
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I hereby disown anime and memes.
Obama also alt-right
Well I mean of course South Park aligns with their views sometimes.
They're center-right. But they're only a bit right of center.
Calling South Park alt-right is like calling Obama a socialist.
I definitely don't agree with all of South Park's views, being fairly liberal. But I love a lot of South Park. Guess I'm alt-right. Go Trump! We're gonna build a wall and make the Mexicans pay for it. We're gonna build a wall and make the Mexicans pay for it. We're gonna build a wall and make the Mexicans pay for it.
It wouldn't hurt.
Kai Dracon
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South Park would be the show to make fun of the alt-right, however if only for the alt-right tastelessly taking itself seriously.
Also PC Principal on SP is a good comparison, because if you listen to the dialog at the end of the season carefully, PC Principle is re-framed in non pejorative terms. His "PC Power" is even referenced as a positive character trait, which is merely being abused by the real villains who wish to use him for their own ends.
Going off past history I'm not even sure how the alt-right could grasp the character. The combination of exaggerated political correctness and man-tastic, bro-slapping, face-punching ham fists that alt-right guys imagine they see in the mirror, seems likely to trigger an aneurysm.
Also PC Principal on SP is a good comparison, because if you listen to the dialog at the end of the season carefully, PC Principle is re-framed in non pejorative terms. His "PC Power" is even referenced as a positive character trait, which is merely being abused by the real villains who wish to use him for their own ends.
Going off past history I'm not even sure how the alt-right could grasp the character. The combination of exaggerated political correctness and man-tastic, bro-slapping, face-punching ham fists that alt-right guys imagine they see in the mirror, seems likely to trigger an aneurysm.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
Only my tastes matter.
So, what people can have content made for them and who gets to decide what that is? I need to know this so I can adjust my personal beliefs to be inline with societies predefined norms. The bible used to decide these things so its gotten kind of confusing. Is there a PC divine being?
The alt left sounds more and more like the religious right every day.
"Ban thing that doesn't follow the PC narrative" is pretty close to "Ban thing that doesn't follow Religious narrative".
To clarify I don't think this show is in good taste but if it makes money then more power to them. I will just ignore the filth like a normal person.
Let the market and population decide what is acceptable through ratings and viewership.
LouisaFerre
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I don't think I've ever seen footage of Sam Hyde taking the current situation seriously, so I honestly wouldn't be surprised, lol. I don't think it's something where he actually likes the people and groups he makes fun of and is doing it for the sake of social commentary or whatever, but I think he's the type where the views themselves don't really matter to him as much as whether or not people act or react in a way he finds annoying or amusing.
:lol at people trying to get as far away from South Park as possible.
I enjoy well produced weird shit so some of the stuff I've seen from World Peace is interesting to me on that level. However a lot of what I've seen from it that's supposed to be weird just isn't weird enough, and the anti-comedy just comes off as offensiveness for the sake of it.
Adult swim should just make more "The House Has People In It", "Unedited Footage of a Bear", and "Too Many Cooks". This show is bad even if it isn't explicitly alt-right.
I enjoy well produced weird shit so some of the stuff I've seen from World Peace is interesting to me on that level. However a lot of what I've seen from it that's supposed to be weird just isn't weird enough, and the anti-comedy just comes off as offensiveness for the sake of it.
Adult swim should just make more "The House Has People In It", "Unedited Footage of a Bear", and "Too Many Cooks". This show is bad even if it isn't explicitly alt-right.
Saint Gregory
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They tend to try a lot of stuff and actually give shows a fair chance to find an audience before pulling them so as much as I'd like to condemn them for this decision I can't. I mean this is the same channel that gave Tyler the Creator and Odd Future their own show for two seasons.
They go through these weird cycles though where they seem to green light a lot of questionable ideas. Squidbillies is probably one of the best things to come out of one of those cycles ironically enough.
jack_package_200
Banned
The Trump episode they did last season at least seemed to imply they have no respect for Trump as a candidate. Hopefully they take it further.
hardcastlemccormick
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South Park is generally socially liberal, though they do make fun of progressive movements. Sometimes they're socially conservative but it's not the most politically consistent show.
Would I? No, I'd value my own ethics over profitability. But you shouldn't expect the same ethical values to be practiced by large companies trying to generate revenue.
There can entertainment value in shock and offence, there have been shows of this nature in the past, and while there is still a demand for them, they will still be created. Regardless of who the show is ran or supported by.
Veritigo_X
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Realistically we're gonna get Douche vs Turd Part 2 both sides are the same bullshit.
You are correct, in Slayven's view, since he also called out the intolerant political correctness in academia and told students they need to be open to hearing views that offend them.
Is Obama a Brietbart.com contributer now?
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