Bumblebeetuna
Gold Member
Sad to say I blind bought the season pass after how fun the beta was. If I only knew what a turd the final endgame would be.
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The Division: 9.5M reg users, 20% season pass attach, top new IP ever, 91% ret vs. 4w
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semiconscious
Member
soloed the whole game, & can't say enough good things about it. never saw it coming, &, man, did it ever hook me - even more than dark souls 3, surprisingly 
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edit: loved new york collapse, as well...
...edit: loved new york collapse, as well...
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
The game itself is fun. The gunplay, the sounds, the graphics, etc. are all top-notch. The endgame is a disaster, but that doesn't change that the leveling up was alot of fun, for me atleast.
MarineMountie
Member
Not salty at all. Enjoyed the game with some friends for the campaign portion of the game. Its no coincidence that 0 out of...18? I think 0 out of 18 friends that had the game still plays it. What they call an end game is laughable. Just calling it like i see it. There are good end games and bad. When 100% of my friends list drops a game at the same time that tells me something.
Darryl M R
Member
Up until the end game I had fun. Now it is a chore to even log on.
Are Sid Meier's Pirates! and Sid Meier's Civilization two different IPs? Are Clive Barker's Undying and Clive Barker's Jericho two different IPs?
Yup, game was great until 30 then collapsed into complete trash. Everything about the DZ shows Ubi put zero thought into it before release, relying solely on the premise alone to make it compelling. Massive seems wildly over their heads now. Loved the game when it came out, but haven't wanted to even launch it in more than a month.
The average playtime per day is 3 hours.. that seems ridiculously high for just about any game.
and also a 91% retention rate. About a month ago I would play every night for hours and my friendlists always had like 7-10 people playing at peak times.
Now I play a few times per week for maybe an hour or 2 and my friends list is an absolute ghost town. And I know by reading the Division subreddit that this is incredibly common.
and also a 91% retention rate. About a month ago I would play every night for hours and my friendlists always had like 7-10 people playing at peak times.
Now I play a few times per week for maybe an hour or 2 and my friends list is an absolute ghost town. And I know by reading the Division subreddit that this is incredibly common.
It probably means that you and your friends don't seem to be in the audience that stays within the game (so a minority). As someone working with games (and with more than enough numbers) it didn't take long to learn that personal anecdotes are pretty worthless, especially when were talking about NeoGAF. People don't like to believe some numbers, because they can't relate with them, but investor call numbers are a good indicator of the reality, even if they are always set to paint a prettier picture than reality (which you will eventually learn to cut through).
SmoothRunningGun
Member
I enjoyed the division. Just waiting for the dlc now. I'm not going to grind any game like I did with destiny ever again. Much more enjoyable to play several games.
Call is archived: http://edge.media-server.com/m/p/kdocc5px
About that VR title, around 1:10:38:
'surprise a few people at E3 where we will anounce a new title that is promising'
About that VR title, around 1:10:38:
'surprise a few people at E3 where we will anounce a new title that is promising'
This is the REAL news. Division success was a given. RS Siege is a total, and very much welcome, surprise.
KiefbladeMaster
Member
Don't see how people could be playing 'end game' still, you collect coins.
Really? It would seem saying that your new content will only be experienced by 20 per cent of your player base isn't that great.
I think that keeping your fanbase playing more content while giving them ways to spend money on extra stuff is better than, in a way, monetising just 20 per cent of said player base.
Yeah, it's fantastic Siege is doing well. Surprised to see Primal did great numbers. I love the FC franchise, but that game is mediocre as fuck.
The Division had so much potential and they ruined it. Sure, they're addressing things, but not the main issues such as dark zone balance (despite the new tiers, it will be exploited again, because history of this game shows it will happen, and full squads mixed in with solo or two player parties), and the best weapons coming from the DZ outside of lucky-lucky drops. We'll see how the loot system changes in the patch, but I have no faith in it.
I just have in general no faith in this studio, got burnt pretty bad. They have to do a lot to regain mine, as well as other's trust. Until they fix it, I have UC4 (zomg) to hold me over until BF 1.
I just have in general no faith in this studio, got burnt pretty bad. They have to do a lot to regain mine, as well as other's trust. Until they fix it, I have UC4 (zomg) to hold me over until BF 1.
phant0m
Member
Yup, got through the last mission and haven't been back since. Still got 30 hours out of it, so I'm happy.
EL CUCO
Member
Yes, they have. Read the patch notes.
This is correct, but most of the exploits have gotten fixed. They still have a problem with Mobile Cover but they have acknowledged the issue and are working on a fix. Sometimes stuff needs a client side patch, which can take longer to push through.
Your opinion of the current state of the game is kind of irrelevant considering the fact that you yourself stated to only have a couple hours logged in after 1.1 released. Also, not sure what you mean by "gear score debacle"? GS was introduced to prevent low level players from matching into Incursions they weren't properly geared for, and being matched into DZ against higher level players. The community might have been confused with what GS actually meant and why it was implemented but I wouldn't consider that a debacle.
I'm in the community board every day, and while there are some people that are unhappy (what game doesn't have this?), and might have some balancing issues (again, what game doesn't?) its not at all indicative of how "FAR" it is from being fixed. You should know since you play Destiny, games like these only get better with time and nobody can deny Massive has been pretty active at listening and working on this game. I'm pretty excited about the upcoming 1.2 update and future dlc.
Alot of my friends stop playing as well, but not necessarily because Ubi/Massive doesnt know what they're doing. This game just isn't for everybody. There's alot grinding, RNG, and min/maxing that is involved that just doesn't appeal to some players. The same could've been said about Bungie or Diablo in its first couple months. Massive seems to have better tools in place to update the game quicker so hopefully it doesn't take as long as it took Destiny. Im really hoping they add structured PVP and some kind of Multigroup activity. We'll see
They have specifically stated they dont want a repeat of what happened with 1.1, so they're currently play testing stuff to try and prevent exploits and bugs from happening. It'd obviously be small sample size as opposed to it being out in the wild, but hopefully they can get it right from the start this time.
What's your GS? Have you been able to complete the Incursion yet? Maybe you can run it with my group one of these days.[/quote]
Thankfully, I've had the same amount of fun I had in the beta, if not more. Not sure why it changed for you, other than standard video game fatigue or your friends jumping on to other games.
Personally, I just started taking a break to play U4, But I'll still be jumping in for weekly Incursion reward (doing one tonight, actually) and checking out the loot for sale.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
The anger on the Division in its playerbase is quite something. See the user reviews on Steam; http://store.steampowered.com/app/365590/#app_reviews_hash
Is this new? I've not seen such an amount of people changing their opinion of an existing review to a negative one due to anger over patches! Reviews are beginning to make less and less sense. Not that reviewing MMOs at launch made any sense at all, given that they constantly change.
It's wild to see Rainbow Six Siege kicking all this ass. So many people are talking about it. It looks really cool! I'd thought it would be dying by now, but it seems to just go from strength strength!
Ghost Recon Wildlands doesn't have pvp, so I dont think it will be a threat to either Division or Rainbow Six!
And as for For Honor, I am really bumped that it is only 4 vs 4. I wanted 64 vs 64 like Mount and Blade
Is this new? I've not seen such an amount of people changing their opinion of an existing review to a negative one due to anger over patches! Reviews are beginning to make less and less sense. Not that reviewing MMOs at launch made any sense at all, given that they constantly change.
It's wild to see Rainbow Six Siege kicking all this ass. So many people are talking about it. It looks really cool! I'd thought it would be dying by now, but it seems to just go from strength strength!
Ghost Recon Wildlands doesn't have pvp, so I dont think it will be a threat to either Division or Rainbow Six!
And as for For Honor, I am really bumped that it is only 4 vs 4. I wanted 64 vs 64 like Mount and Blade
thehillissilent
Member
Yup. I'm right there with you on that.
Prime crotch
Banned
Im saddened at how the PC version turned out with all the cheaters and what not, otherwise I'd still be playing.
Bluecondor
Member
It doesn't surprise me at all that this game has really impressive sales numbers. It's actually a great game for casual players.
I have been playing this game regularly since mid-March, and the game is always full of activity (daily missions, DZ, etc.). While the game's various flaws have generated a lot of criticism among hardcore players who are willing/able to put in 400+ hours in a cover-based shooter/RPG, this game offers a lot to casual players who just want to spend a few hours gaming now and then. You can run around NYC with a few friends and do missions and go in the DZ to battle for better gear.
While I would like to see a better end game and less grind for hardcore players, I have to compliment Massive on creating a game that a lot of people enjoy playing.
I have been playing this game regularly since mid-March, and the game is always full of activity (daily missions, DZ, etc.). While the game's various flaws have generated a lot of criticism among hardcore players who are willing/able to put in 400+ hours in a cover-based shooter/RPG, this game offers a lot to casual players who just want to spend a few hours gaming now and then. You can run around NYC with a few friends and do missions and go in the DZ to battle for better gear.
While I would like to see a better end game and less grind for hardcore players, I have to compliment Massive on creating a game that a lot of people enjoy playing.
Bear Force One
Banned
Let's hear the actual numbers, Ubi. 91% of those playing a month ago is a dodge.
They've mishandled this almost as bad as MCC.
They've mishandled this almost as bad as MCC.
Mass Appeal
Member
Thankfully, I've had the same amount of fun I had in the beta, if not more. Not sure why it changed for you, other than standard video game fatigue or your friends jumping on to other games.
Personally, I just started taking a break to play U4, But I'll still be jumping in for weekly Incursion reward (doing one tonight, actually) and checking out the loot for sale.[/QUOTE]
I really do hope you're right and they fix the game in 1.2 because I was really addicted before 1.1
Despite its failures I think the game has amazing immersion, graphics and the TPS gameplay is pretty good. I also really enjoy the different build you can use. I would also love for them to add a dedicated PvP mode but keep the DZ intact.
I think what really turned me off about the game was the exploits and glitches. It felt like a broken game to me.
Dommel
Member
Same here, bought the season pass after having loads of fun in the beta.
Stopped caring at level 18 and haven't been back since, doubt I ever will.
They really need to get off their ass and make all the mission playable in Challenge mode. If you don't feel like venturing into the DZ, you end up playing the same god damn 4 CM's over and over and over and over...while there are tons of other fun missions wasted because reasons...
17 Seconds
Banned
anybody that has put significant time into both games and has followed both communities knows that destiny is going to have wayyyyy more longevity the division. it's not even close.
texhnolyze
Banned
Hey, that's my review at the top.
But it's true though, they made the game worse with the recent patch. More bugs, more exploits, and more grinding. Instead of giving us more options to gear up, they gave us more chores grind and made everything harder to come by. I've spent a good 120+ hours in the game to judge it accordingly.
soundscream
Member
Using COD4 as a measuring stick for how long you have been gaming makes me feel ancient.
:'(
Dylan Sexbang
Banned
The Division is the first game I'll sell back to MS when they implement digital sell back. Going back to my previous stance of no more Ubisoft that i had post watchdogs.
OfTheOverflow
Member
Glad to hear Siege seems to be doing okay; still my favorite shooter this gen and I'm utterly addicted. The Division, despite its obvious AAA status I could tell from the beta's wouldn't be lasting long. Seriously, I doubt the actual reality is less impressive than they're leading these investors to believe. I've not a single friend who still plays it yet multiple who are just as hooked on Siege as day 1.