Doczu
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The last posted screen implies that Pikmin 3 also takes place on Earth.
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The last posted screen implies that Pikmin 3 also takes place on Earth.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
It's the same planet.
Allegedly in an old interview about Pikmin, Miyamoto has said they imagine the planet is Earth long after humans have left it and vanished, leaving behind a few buried hints of their existence. Thus the creatures like Pikmin and strange insects evolved at some point in the future.
A agree with you on both bottom points. I just can't get over how disjointed the world appears sometimes. A cluster of clean, beautifully textured and modeled flora contrasting a blurry brown/green mess.
It's also worth mentioning that it's not all ground textures, some screens handle it quite well.
Yeah, people really don't understand texturing and especially what steep angles do. You could waste a full GB on ground textures and still end up with a mess at difficult camera angles.I think the point made by posting the PC game shot is that this is an RTS. A lot of people seem to look at screenshots of games in an abstract sense without considering the genre or design.
Like when folks look at a huge sandbox world game, and wonder why blades of grass in one spot are 2D textures cuz it sucks shit when every inch of a game don't look like filmic CG.
Go look at most high end RTS titles and zoom in up close, including Starcraft II. The textures in Pikmin 3 are not as anywhere nearly as terrible as graphics panic ("Immoral textures") make them out to be. Which is not to say they couldn't be better.
Looking back over the thread this shot:
Demonstrates what the textures really look like in gameplay perspective with effects and lighting. While the ground level camera beauty shots reveal the limitations, they're also misleading as to what the game typically looks like.
Edit: found what I was looking for. Here's what happens when you take a texture and view it from a steep angle:
Dat visual disparity. Those N64 floor textures versus those characters that sport a real man's texture set.
Yes, I picked TLOU because it's currently being name-dropped as an example of "amazing" and expensive graphics that poor Nintendo could never touch.
phosphor112
Banned
I know that's sarcastic, but not in this thread. Just... focus on Pikmin 3. ;]
Post apocalyptic earth confirmed then.
It's really obvious once you play the first games to be honest.
That's what AF is for.
AF doesn't really help when the texture resolution isn't there in the first place.
There, fixed it!
much better! haha now maybe it'll sell 1 million (sad fact is if they did explode in blood and guts it probably would sell more.)
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Looks great!
But what I don't get is the Wiimote controls. Can you also control the game with the touchscreen on the gamepad? I would imagine that would be the best way to play the game, and always envisioned it that way when I first heard it was coming to U.
But what I don't get is the Wiimote controls. Can you also control the game with the touchscreen on the gamepad? I would imagine that would be the best way to play the game, and always envisioned it that way when I first heard it was coming to U.
It looks better the more I see of it.
Cute Units + Terrifying enemies + RTS + Nature, perfectly captured in a video game (with a touch of fantasy/sci-fi) = Brilliance
I think I might have to give it try when I get a Wii U.
Sadly the local electronics store with the cheapest prices around here ran out of Wii U's and the next order comes in half a month. Damn
Edit: I just saw that the game releases here in Europe around the time they restock Wii U's. What a great coincidence!
Cute Units + Terrifying enemies + RTS + Nature, perfectly captured in a video game (with a touch of fantasy/sci-fi) = Brilliance
I think I might have to give it try when I get a Wii U.
Sadly the local electronics store with the cheapest prices around here ran out of Wii U's and the next order comes in half a month. Damn
Edit: I just saw that the game releases here in Europe around the time they restock Wii U's. What a great coincidence!
phosphor112
Banned
Cold. Lol.
Screamapillar
Member
I noticed that, too. In fact, I didn't see the low-poly/ low-texture environments until I was watching final footage from Nintendomination. In all the pre-release footage of the game, I thought it looked amazing. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention. But it does sometimes look jarring for plants and creatures to look so detailed on top of blurry rocks.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
The touch pad can be used to order the captains to head towards waypoints, enabling the player to keep them all in motion at the same time. When playing with just the gamepad, the controls are like the Gamecube Pikmins. Enhanced by the touch pad functions in the center.
With wii remote, the gamepad is still active and can be kept close to pause the game and examine the overview, and order the captains around. The advantage of the wiimote configuration is being able to use a mouselike cursor in the game for fast, precise targeting.
There should be enough configurations to keep everyone happy.
This is absolutely the driving force behind the conception of WaraWara/MiiVerse. The plaza shows the to 10 miiverse communities, which makes people check out what others are playing. Then they read about how excited the people that have the game are, then the reader gets more interested in the game.
People have a natural desire to be a part of what's popular at any given time. It's brilliant marketing, they just need the games to move consoles.
Outtrigger888
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Also, wasn't miyamoto working with a small team on this game?
As said before, this game looks best in motion. Was watching a video on YouTube with an English speaker playing the Japanese game. He kept commenting on how gorgeous the game looks in person.
I think X will be the game where we see what the hardware can truly do. They're going for a seamless open world. I can only assume monolith soft will be the first to really push the edram(?).
Yeah. Don't get me wrong, I am getting this day and date of release. But would it have been so hard, especially with the extra dev time to at least put a hi-res texture on everything? 1GB of RAM is way more than enough for something like that. Not even HD textures, just something with at least a hint of texturing.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Those who don't use a Wii U and dismiss Miiverse as nonsense underestimate the potential power it has. Even with the current userbase, Miiverse is used heavily for game recommendations. The average person doesn't come to a forum like GAF. But with Miiverse being built right into the console, people use it regularly to ask if a game is worth purchasing.
You are correct. I follow games closely and yet I still see games I didn't know was on Wii U. Games I am not interested in but atleast they are getting visibility. I could only imagine a casual Wii U gamer appreciating miiverse/wara wara plaza since they are not on the internet 24/7 talking about games.
Miiverse is great. Is so good to share something in-game and then see people are facing the same challenges or experiences, or get tips or help someone who is stuck in a part of the game you already cleared... Shame it is not an easy concept to sell.
ShockingAlberto
Member
The problem is that's only one part of an advertising campaign: people who are already bought in to the ecosystem but may not know or yet care about the game.
It doesn't really reach out to, you know, anyone else.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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For any that have played it, how does the game look when just playing on the Gamepad???
I would also add that because Nintendo does not start communities until the game releases (with one or two exceptions), Miiverse really cannot be used to drum up interest before a title releases.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Miiverse is absolutely a companion to traditional advertising, and not the tool for trying to turn specific games into system sellers for potential new owners.
But past that I think it's more about maximizing sales potential for the userbase you do have. And encouraging a long tail for sales, especially given every Wii U game is available for digital download.
People are worried that games like W101 will come out and sell 10k copies due to no visibility. Miiverse is something that could help with that.
The fact that miiverse users have been using special communities such as the E3 board to discuss upcoming releases points to the need for a community specifically for that function. Essentially, the hype board.
Same planet you're visiting, the player characters are from a different planet this time.
Can the wiimote control both the TV and the GamePad in this setup? I mean if you point the wiimote to the GamePad, is the IR put in action?
Yes, Miyamoto proudly confirmed that during E3 or even prior to that, I believe.
Off-TV w/ Wiimote is possible!
Well I knew that, my question is, can you control the 2 screens at the same time with a wiimote?
I'm not sure but as it uses Wii Motion+, I guess you don't need to point at the sensor bar anyway.
Wait, but how ... what do you want to control on the touch screen if you're also playing on the TV? I don't see how the software would know which of the two you're pointing at unless you basically "disable" one by choosing regular TV play or Off-TV.
I guess the TV could be controlled wih Motion+ and the GamePad positioned at a 45 degrees angle with IR.
IR, i.e. the sensor bar, is still used for re-centering if Skyward Sword is an indication.
Forgot about that, you're right.
w1gglyjones
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Nintendo catching up to BLOPS 2, I see...
IceDoesntHelp
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This isn't helping the wait like I thought it would.
I'm impressed!
i like this one. why the screens are darkish?
Ingueferroque
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This looks excellent. But it won't get me to buy a WiiU unfortunately.
Early morning + cloudy weather?
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